Interesting article with comprehensive charts for age, body weight, sex, level of training, etc.
https://www.healthline.com/health/ex...ge-bench-press
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02-19-2021, 07:24 AM #1
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I saw this article yesterday.
Wonder how many men hit the elite level for their weight that train regularly? Probably a very tiny percentage (if natty).Age: 42
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This is interesting. Another factor is that if you train and if bench press is part of your training, your bench press strength is relative to how you train and consistency. No matter what, maximum strength is fleeting.
Not scientific at all, but even though I did bench 360 several years ago, I cannot now because it’s not what I train for.
But, interesting article, aj.Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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02-19-2021, 08:44 AM #8
That untrained column was pretty sad, really.
Interesting read: for the average person on the street that's that they ask about when they learn you train.... and the average person couldn't push their partner off of them if they collapsed in the throes of passion. SMHIt's never too late!
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02-19-2021, 11:24 AM #10
I know someone who has never gym trained yet is one of the strongest guys I know (wiry not huge built, but his grip strength is amazing), I'd be amazed if he couldn't bench his own weight first time. There are people out there who are STRONG.
For someone like myself with Pee Wee Herman genetics, it took me 2 years of consistent hard training and I don't mean time wasting in gym, I mean training. Mileage does vary!
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02-19-2021, 11:48 AM #11
I think the bench press is over rated and held in too high esteem by some builders. Imo, there are at least a few other chest exercises that are superior to it for fiber stimulation and muscle growth.
Benching is also the leading cause of pec tears of injuries in the gym and is known to damage the shoulders over time and with heavy loads.
As such, unless you're a competitive powerlifter, choosing the bench as your main exercise for chest growth over time is imo, foolhardy.
and ftr, I don't care how strong I am as my focus is muscle growth and lifting longevity.
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I have a friend of mine name Bandit (real name Frank) who never lifts weight but is one of the strongest guys I know. He was once shot at point blank range with a 38 right to the chest and walk himself to the hospital.
Anyway, around 10 years ago with the bullet still in his chest (he still has it till this day it can not be removed) he went to the gym with me and bench 315lbs for reps like the man has been lifting for years! fcking guy is a beast.On the list for Bannukah
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I've not (barbell) benched in months. My shoulders are much happier with dumbbells. But when my son benched 225x6 a few weeks ago, I got caught up in the moment, and thought, heck yeah . . . I'm going to give this a try to. I have him put 135 on so that I can warm up and literally did one rep and said "screw this." I knew that it wouldn't end well.
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Herschel has always been an exception to the rule. Since college he has always done thousands of pushups, situps and pullups and bodyweight stuff. He's also a freak in that he'll go a whole day or 2 without eating then sit down and eat 2 whole chickens, no regard to diet timing and only eats when he feels like it.
Agreed. I'll add that training chest with dumbells, inclines, pullovers and flyes is more healthy even for powerlifters in the long term. I've competed 6 or 7 times and always gotten a bigger bench than the last time, but didn't start flat BB BP'ing until about 6 weeks out.
Unless you're ramping up to a comp it's a dangerous Bro Metric that I would leave to the rookies.Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby, don't you ever put that on me.
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I've gotten away from standard BB bench presses as part of my regular routine. Instead, I now use a fat bar to bench and do tons weighted dips. My shoulders are so much happier. The fat bar makes the movement different by decreasing the ROM plus I feel it much more in my chest than standard BB. I haven't lost much on the strength scale on flat BB bench doing these either. I can put up a paused 315 on any given day still and rep 225 for 15-20. Maybe an idea if you ever want to get back into bench pressing.
Bench press is highly dependent on body weight. If you're heavier you should be able to put up more untrained or not. The trick is to be able to do the same weight at lower body weight.Last edited by Jtbny; 02-20-2021 at 07:33 AM.
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A normal bar but larger diameter. Something like this:
https://www.roguefitness.com/the-rog...BoCtvkQAvD_BwE
The one I use weighs 55lb but looks just like the Rogue bar.☻/
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From what I have witnessed at the gym I would say this is correct. The number of guys I have seen who can press 3 plates can be counted on 1 hand yet the number of kids who come in wearing their fukking string back tank tops and struggle with 95 lbs is a number way above that.
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