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    Biden admin goes forward with immigration plan during a deadly pandemic

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    The Biden administration formally rolled out its major immigration bill Thursday, introducing legislation that would give 11 million people a path to U.S. citizenship.

    The bill, which will be shepherded by Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Calif.) and Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) represents President Biden’s chance to deliver major changes to a system where both parties see a need for reform but are sharply divided on how to deliver it.

    White House officials called the bill a chance to “reset and restart conversations on immigration reform,” labeling the bill as Biden’s “vision of what it takes to fix the system.”

    But even with a Democrat-led Congress, passing an immigration bill will be a heavy lift given that Senate Democrats would need to secure 10 GOP votes to pass the bill through the regular legislative process.

    The bill would deliver on several of Biden’s campaign promises, including providing a path to citizenship for the young people brought to the U.S by their parents as children, known as Dreamers.

    In addition to Dreamers, it would also allow immigrant farmworkers and those with Temporary Protected Status (TPS), who came to the U.S. as far back as the 1990s amid natural disasters and other unrest in their countries of origin, to quickly gain green cards. Undocumented individuals living in the U.S. would also be able to seek greencards after five years.

    Each of the groups could seek citizenship three years after gaining their green card, creating a maximum eight year path to citizenship.

    But beyond creating a pathway for those already in the U.S. the bill makes efforts to ease immigration timelines abroad, increasing numerous types of visa caps while seeking to reduce wait times for those who may currently wait as long as 20 years to join family in the U.S.

    It also changes the term alien in law to noncitizen to “better reflect the President's values on immigration.”


    Immigration has already led to roadblocks for Biden after some Republicans stalled his nominee to lead the Department of Homeland Security in protest of the president’s plan to pause construction of the border wall.

    And Republicans on the House Homeland Security Committee have slammed a number of Biden’s immigration executive orders, with Ranking Member John Katko (R-N.Y.) calling it a “catch and release program” that will lead to an unimaginable surge on the border.

    If the bill passes, it would be the first major immigration bill approved by Congress since 1996, when lawmakers voted to create the enforcement and deportation system largely still in use today.

    Rather than trade amnesty for some immigrants for an increase in enforcement as was often done in prior legislative attempts, Biden’s U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021 largely focuses on expanding immigration and looking to address root cases of migration..

    “The law is already there. There is no need for added enforcement mechanisms,” a senior White House official said on a call with reporters.

    Perhaps most significantly, it would increase visa options on the family-based side of the immigration system, increasing the country caps that limit how many people can come to the U.S. from each country while also reopening roughly 200,000 unused visa slots from years past.

    The bill also lifts the so-called three- and ten-year bars that restrict people from reentering the U.S. if they’ve overstayed their visa.

    It also ups the number from diversity visas from 55,000 to 80,000, a substantial increase that will boost the number of immigrants from nations that otherwise have low levels of immigration to America.

    The bill also triples the number of visas available to those who have been the victim of certain crimes including domestic violence, upping the number from 10,000 to 30,000. Employment-based visas also jump under the legislation from 140,000 to 170,000.

    The bill comes after Biden rolled out a number of other major immigration measures, striking down former President Trump’s so-called Muslim ban, ending the emergency authorization for construction of the border wall, and implementing a new asylum process to replace Trump’s remain in Mexico policy. He’s also sought to increase the refugee cap to 125,000 after Trump cut it to a historic low of 15,000.

    The bill includes funding to back up some of Biden’s executive orders, setting aside $4 billion in aid for Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras to address the root causes of migration while also setting aside funding for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to help clear the backlog of asylum cases.


    But the legislation could face substantial pushback from Republicans, who have already been highly critical of Biden’s early moves on immigration.

    White House officials refused to say whether Biden would consider attempting to pass the bill through the reconciliation process, which allows fiscal legislation to pass with a simple majority.

    “We're open to a conversation with anyone about this but we think this is a much more comprehensive way to deal with this issue than just simply, you know, a wall,” one White House official said.
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    Biden just got himself 11 million more government leaches and voters

    They will be bussed to states that are swinging and this new voting base will push them to win those states
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    Originally Posted by GooBaaa View Post
    Biden just got himself 11 million more government leaches and voters

    They will be bussed to states that are swinging and this new voting base will push them to win those states
    They need 10 GOP turncoats to pass this. I think it could happen. I can think of at least 5 who are probably giddy over this
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    People who support moves like this, do so because they know it helps gain more democrat votes and they know it would permanently turn TX and FL blue. It isnt and has never been about morality or vision, but Democrat control and power.

    This reason alone makes me scratch my head at people who support the Democrat party. If they chit on one enemy demographic to secure their power, what makes you think they wouldn't do the same to you if you got in their way... They dont value Americans, and they will literally import millions of voters to get their way.
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    Are these people already here or would this be for those wanting to come now?
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    Yet his supporters continue to wait for their $1400 stimulus checks lmaoooooooo. Get cucked, retards.
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    Originally Posted by tunejunkie View Post
    Are these people already here or would this be for those wanting to come now?
    He wants the immigration numbers / visa quotas upped bigly during a pandemic.
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    Originally Posted by IStabU View Post
    People who support moves like this, do so because they know it helps gain more democrat votes and they know it would permanently turn TX and FL blue. It isnt and has never been about morality or vision, but Democrat control and power.

    This reason alone makes me scratch my head at people who support the Democrat party. If they chit on one enemy demographic to secure their power, what makes you think they wouldn't do the same to you if you got in their way... They dont value Americans, and they will literally import millions of voters to get their way.
    People that support Democrats don't have the mental capacity to allow this kind of foresight.
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    He wants the immigration numbers / visa quotas upped bigly during a pandemic.
    strange how the "lockdown libs" don't have an opinion on this.
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    pretty unlikely that somebody who is currently living here is now more likely to spread the coronavirus because they can get a green card. by the time it gets fully implemented we'll be close enough to herd immunity between people who have caught it and vaccinations that increasing the pool of people by a few hundred thousand over the course of the rest of the year wont matter too much, assuming the implementation date is ASAP if it does pass.

    there are some good arguments to make against immigration but this aint one of them
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    Last time I read they were letting 25k asylum seekers in from Mexico.

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    Last time I read they were letting 25k asylum seekers in from Mexico.

    20 million unemployed. 28 trillion national debt. Trillion dollar deficits.

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    pretty unlikely that somebody who is currently living here is now more likely to spread the coronavirus because they can get a green card. by the time it gets fully implemented we'll be close enough to herd immunity between people who have caught it and vaccinations that increasing the pool of people by a few hundred thousand over the course of the rest of the year wont matter too much, assuming the implementation date is ASAP if it does pass.

    there are some good arguments to make against immigration but this aint one of them


    This. They should be booted on principle alone. Then we should make immigration merit based with exceptions for the most severe asylum cases. You don't stroll across the border and morph into an American. It's a learned ideal and border jumpers dont have it. They're no more American than the countries they left behind.
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    Funny how resident libs always avoid these threads.

    Somebody explain how mass immigration and green cards for low skilled workers during a time with historic unemployment and small businesses going bankrupt will help blue collar Americans.

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    Great news! It helps the economy grow, and there will be bigger profits for companies due to cheaper workers. Dribble down effect will happen all over you, and you'll all be RICHER, just like has been happening for the last 40 years!
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    I wonder how all of the black Americans who were fooled into yet again voting Democrat feel about their preferred political party telling them that illegal aliens matter more than they do.
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    I wonder how all of the black Americans who were fooled into yet again voting Democrat feel about their preferred political party telling them that illegal aliens matter more than they do.
    They don't care
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    They don't care
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    So now the US is in the late stage Western Roman Empire when they started letting the barbarian (Vandals and Visigoths) tribes into the empire.

    The next step will be when there is a shortage of real Americans enlisting in the military, so the government will start promoting non-citizens to join with some type of bribe. Said tribes will mass migrate, join the military, and then sack the modern Rome.

    History repeats itself.
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    Originally Posted by ChunkerFish View Post
    They don't care
    Sheep gonna sheep.


    Theyve been totally brainwashed.
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    Trumpers mad Biden is following through on his campaign promises

    Meanwhile Trump built 100 miles of fence in 4 years

    LMFAO!!!
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    Originally Posted by turk75 View Post
    Oh man, imagine what all those assimilated pyramid builders, rocket scientists, doctors, engineers, mathematicians, and skilled tradesmen will do for our country and economy!
    I’ve heard that they were wind turbine techs. According to Romney, any idiot can do it and it’s the top job in the US.

    I did a few searches out of curiosity for to US jobs. I saw no environmental energy jobs listed in the top 20 no matter where I looked.

    Libs gonna lib
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Trumpers mad Biden is following through on his campaign promises

    Meanwhile Trump built 100 miles of fence in 4 years

    LMFAO!!!
    Flagged for ignorance: 450 miles were built simp. That’s okay though. Everyone knows that politicians lie in hope that someone doesn’t spend 5 mins to actually look it up.

    Also this:
    “ For example: San Diego Sector: In one short 12 mile section in the San Diego Sector, the wall reduced CBP manpower requirements by 150 agents every 24 hours. That is approximately a $28 million return on investment per year in salaries and benefits.Oct 29, 2020”

    https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/10/29/...-and-smugglers
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    Originally Posted by fitnessislife View Post
    I wonder how all of the black Americans who were fooled into yet again voting Democrat feel about their preferred political party telling them that illegal aliens matter more than they do.
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    They don't care
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    Blexit is happening this time guys. I promise
    I watched some Fox and Friends this morning and according to their voter analysis Biden won 91% of the black vote. They were also trying to portray this as a betrayal of his black base. That message falls on deaf ears lol.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    I watched some Fox and Friends this morning and according to their voter analysis Biden won 91% of the black vote. They were also trying to portray this as a betrayal of his black base. That message falls on deaf ears lol.
    Both are true.

    Biden also wants to bring back illegals that were deported under Trump and give them amnesty.
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    Both are true.

    Biden also wants to bring back illegals that were deported under Trump and give them amnesty.
    I'm not sure you can call it a betrayal when he promised he would do this. To Biden's credit, everything he's doing is what he promised.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    Last time I read they were letting 25k asylum seekers in from Mexico.

    20 million unemployed. 28 trillion national debt. Trillion dollar deficits.

    Lmao.
    Don't forget giving said illegals government benefits too i.e. California
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    I'm not sure you can call it a betrayal when he promised he would do this. To Biden's credit, everything he's doing is what he promised.
    Lol true enough.
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