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    Originally Posted by Vikes723 View Post
    If he played well in the playoffs then I would agree but his playoff games are horrid

    In 4 play off games total games he is...
    55.9% Completion
    900 yards
    3 TDS / 5 INT

    Mahomes in his first 4 playoff games...
    62% Completion
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    Just my 2 two cents
    Agree his playoff games are the only black mark on him right now. I think a lot of it is down to a lack of talent around him, but he still should have come out looking better

    Remember the guy finished this season aged 23, theres not many QBs that have more playoff wins by that age. Over the next 4-5 years if he can be given an actual WR I think we will see the real Lamar in the postseason.

    Some people say its the level of competition, but he has proven himself against the best defenses in the regular season
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Agree his playoff games are the only black mark on him right now. I think a lot of it is down to a lack of talent around him, but he still should have come out looking better

    Remember the guy finished this season aged 23, theres not many QBs that have more playoff wins by that age. Over the next 4-5 years if he can be given an actual WR I think we will see the real Lamar in the postseason.

    Some people say its the level of competition, but he has proven himself against the best defenses in the regular season
    We'll see but the bold is where a lot of people lose it for him. Plenty of regular season QBs but can they separate themselves from that.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Remember the guy finished this season aged 23
    True, but right now is essentially his prime.

    He’s not a normal QB who is entering his prime into his mid-late 20s into his 30s.

    Right now is his peak.

    Maybe even last year.
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    Originally Posted by Belome View Post
    True, but right now is essentially his prime.

    He’s not a normal QB who is entering his prime into his mid-late 20s into his 30s.

    Right now is his peak.

    Maybe even last year.
    Michael Vick's best seasons came in year 6 and year 10. If it weren't for the suspension that whole period is what would expect his prime to be

    One injury can change everything, but theres no reason he can't get better in every way up until his mid to late 20s
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    You can cherry pick stats all you want to fit your narrative, but you watched him against Buffalo. That was elite? He can’t throw outside the numbers accurately, sorry.
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    Originally Posted by Droopdx View Post
    You can cherry pick stats all you want to fit your narrative, but you watched him against Buffalo. That was elite? He can’t throw outside the numbers accurately, sorry.
    The same Buffalo that got TORCHED by KC.
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    The same Buffalo that got TORCHED by KC.
    My G, how you been?

    Lamar made the Bills defense look like the 2013 Seahawks.
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    Originally Posted by Droopdx View Post
    You can cherry pick stats all you want to fit your narrative, but you watched him against Buffalo. That was elite? He can’t throw outside the numbers accurately, sorry.
    You're saying using the most basic career stats like TD's, passer rating, offense ranking, wins is "cherry picking"


    But then talk about one specific game


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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    You're saying using the most basic career stats like TD's, passer rating, offense ranking, wins is "cherry picking"


    But then talk about one specific game


    You guys suck at debating this honestly
    I pulled up 4 distinct different playoff games where Jackson was subpar at best. You compare him to mahomes in your head and I debunked your narrative so don't say I'm the one that debates badly lol.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    You're saying using the most basic career stats like TD's, passer rating, offense ranking, wins is "cherry picking"


    But then talk about one specific game


    You guys suck at debating this honestly

    Pretend for a second that the internet doesn’t exist and you can’t get a bunch of nerds to pull up stats for you.

    With your eyes only is Jackson’s game on the same level as Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Wilson, Brady, and Herbert?
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    Originally Posted by Droopdx View Post
    Pretend for a second that the internet doesn’t exist and you can’t get a bunch of nerds to pull up stats for you.

    With your eyes only is Jackson’s game on the same level as Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Wilson, Brady, and Herbert?
    Lets pretend we cant find cold hard facts on the internet I would take all those guys, if he didnt throw that pick 6 against the bills and scored then maybe just maybe the narrative would swing but the pick 6 happened and pretty much put the game out of reach
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    Originally Posted by Droopdx View Post
    My G, how you been?

    Lamar made the Bills defense look like the 2013 Seahawks.
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    ballin out on Bitcoin. Time to become a Rams fan this year.
    Good time to jump ship. Chiefs just released both starting tackles, going to be a lot more matrix throws this year for Mahomes
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    Originally Posted by Droopdx View Post
    Pretend for a second that the internet doesn’t exist and you can’t get a bunch of nerds to pull up stats for you.

    With your eyes only is Jackson’s game on the same level as Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Wilson, Brady, and Herbert?
    Yes but with a different skill set. He MOVES THE CHAINS and CONTROLS THE BALL and puts up POINTS. That's the entire job of a QB

    You do understand that right....?
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    Yes but with a different skill set. He MOVES THE CHAINS and CONTROLS THE BALL and puts up POINTS. That's the entire job of a QB

    You do understand that right....?
    23 points in his two playoff games total last year with a measly 3 points vs an average Bills defense

    That’s 11.5 points per game..... you do understand that right?
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    Lamar stans getting bodied ITT
    Imagine making a thread titled “Proof Lamar is elite and a top 5 QB” after he goes 16/24 for 162 yards, 0 td’s and 1 int, and puts up 3 points in the biggest game of his career.
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    23 points in his two playoff games total last year with a measly 3 points vs an average Bills defense

    That’s 11.5 points per game..... you do understand that right?
    You're taking a small sample size and picking and choosing games.. you do understand that right?

    If you're gonna debate at the very least brinf VALUE to the table instead of picking and choosing SPECIFIC GAMES, it just makes you look like an idiot

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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    You're taking a small sample size and picking and choosing games.. you do understand that right?

    If you're gonna debate at the very least brinf VALUE to the table instead of picking and choosing SPECIFIC GAMES, it just makes you look like an idiot

    *Looks at who I'm responding too*

    Nvm I'm legit responding to a retard. You get bodied by me legitimately every single time I talk to you
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    Picking and choosing playoff games, my bad. Should I go pull up his stats in the playoffs vs the Titans from 2020, or in 2019 vs the Chargers? I forgot if you light up the Bengals or Jaguars in the regular season that puts you in the elite conversation.
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    Yes *******..... we know
    Going NC like your ex did probably would’ve been the best option here.
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    You're taking a small sample size and picking and choosing games.. you do understand that right?

    If you're gonna debate at the very least brinf VALUE to the table instead of picking and choosing SPECIFIC GAMES
    Playoff games, you want Jackson to be measured so close to Mahomes? What separates the pack? Playoff performance, Brees will go down as one of the best ever regular season QBs because he literally plays lights out 14-2, 13-3, etc. But just like Jackson he didnt just fall, he tripped and fell of a cliff. You want to label him an elite QB in the regular season hey man I wont stop you I would love to see it but to say its "Small sample size" this what he puts on the plate and us fans digest
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    Playoff games, you want Jackson to be measured so close to Mahomes? What separates the pack? Playoff performance, Brees will go down as one of the best ever regular season QBs because he literally plays lights out 14-2, 13-3, etc. But just like Jackson he didnt just fall, he tripped and fell of a cliff. You want to label him an elite QB in the regular season hey man I wont stop you I would love to see it but to say its "Small sample size" this what he puts on the plate and us fans digest
    He got roasted so bad in here he left to go make some race bait threads on the misc. Sad, but predictable.
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    Since we have proof that Lamar is an elite QB now, why aren’t any receivers signing with Baltimore? Kinda weird
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