Do you believe right-wing viewpoints are publicly censored/shamed?

[SultanofBling]

(title)


Personally, no. Someone wont question you if you like small government and lower taxes. More of an emphasis on state's rights and less of a focus on the encroaching arm of the Fed... these aren't banned thought, yet.

But I will judge some loony who followed Trumpty to the point of rebellion. That's poor judgment, right there. Guy speaks in a way that gets people's passions going, driving them into a frenzy to do something dumb, like overwhelm the Capitol.


cheers

[ohiostate124]

Shut up wincel

[~Hades~]

They are being publicly censored/shamed no matter who believes or denies.


But you know this already.

[SultanofBling]

Shut up wincel

Never have I ever been wincel

[memcop]

Got to tamp out that populist wildfire Trump started you know?

Face it. Best thing that could have ever happened was letting Joe fuk up in a time like this. Hes proving it every day.

Market and fuel tanks and that's it boyo. Biden sprinting towards it.

[MilkforBrains]

In the sense that anything other than the Liberal status quo is silenced. Most Right-wingers have been corraled into defending big business and small government. They act like it's the Commies pushing these agendas when it's actually the Capitalist. How many companies backed BLM for example? It's not the 50s, there is no Red Scare; the bankers and lawyuhs won.

I want a big government. An ethnic-nationalist big government that would step on the necks of the big pharma and the banks and make them kiss the ring in their knees. Trouble is globalism prevents anyone state from turning away from the Capitialist system. Just look at the torrent of propaganda and trade threats they have pushed on Hungary and Poland.

[Skwidward]

Yeah, but then so is someone like Ari Shaffir

I don’t think big tech or whatever is out to get right wing folks.

I think they’re out there to make money

[memcop]

In the sense that anything other than the Liberal status quo is silenced. Most Right-wingers have been corraled into defending big business and small government. They act like it's the Commies pushing these agendas when it's actually the Capitalist. How many companies backed BLM for example? It's not the 50s, there is no Red Scare; the bankers and lawyuhs won.

I want a big government. An ethnic-nationalist big government that would step on the necks of the big pharma and the banks and make them kiss the ring in their knees. Trouble is globalism prevents anyone state from turning away from the Capitialist system. Just look at the torrent of propaganda and trade threats they have pushed on Hungary and Poland.

You're not paying attention to us as a party then.

No globalism
Smaller government
Less corporate control

Theres a reason business is backing dems socialism. They'd be the oligarchs.

Being a libertarian I love the gutting of the Republican party. We're almost there.

Pretty simple. Middle class is tired of carrying above and below. Advocating for bigger government is a foolish position. It's only a matter of time before it kills you.

[memcop]

Yeah, but then so is someone like Ari Shaffir

I don’t think big tech or whatever is out to get right wing folks.

I think they’re out there to make money

They were faced with mounting pressure ahead of the election. They picked their fate to stay alive. I dont blame them but I'm sincerely enjoying what's coming. It's going to be ugly.

[MilkforBrains]

You're not paying attention to us as a party then.

No globalism
Smaller government
Less corporate control

Theres a reason business is backing dems socialism. They'd be the oligarchs.

Being a libertarian I love the gutting of the Republican party. We're almost there.

Pretty simple. Middle class is tired of carrying above and below. Advocating for bigger government is a foolish position. It's only a matter of time before it kills you.

Libertarianism is nihilistic though. There is no origin story, no sense of kin, no sense of 'in it together'. It would allow for complete degeneracy because there is no central power acting on behalf of the People. It might make some inroads into America because the nation is so multi-ethnic for but never in Europe, it's almost exclusively American. Other races will collectivise and you will be an army of one.

I always hear about how big government destroys nations but all the companies that the NAZI were involved with thrived and thrive more to this day that American industry. Benz, BMW, Hugo Boss, Bayer, VW, Krupp, Adidas, Puma, all the German watch companies, superior infrastructure. Same chit with the Japanese. And that was all despite the effort of the 'New York, New York' type oligarchs assaulting them since the end of WW1

In a 3rd Position thought, you owe the people and the worker but they owe you. They imprisoned those who wouldn't work. They built up the lowly worker; gave him pride and purpose...A non-phaggy 'non-woe is me' form of socialism. China is actually pretty 3rd Positionist. Fck knows about Putin but he made them squirm under his boot none the less.

What a boss.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IZhq6YavDM4

[HairyWBush]

[Bodhy]

Quite the opposite, IMO.



The right wing media ecosystem is bereft of the usual standards of checks and balances which would properly moderate and contain the flow and dissemination of information in any other context. Propaganda and disinformation can much more freely flow through the lifeblood of the Fox News & Breitbart organism than they could in leftist or centrist circles. Elsewhere, if incorrect misinformation is published retractions and apologies are the norm. Not so in the right wing ecosystem, where a ludicrous conspiracy theory can be born in Alex Jones' basement and be seen aired on Fox News or Trump's twitter mere days later. Even if completely untrue, you rarely see a public apology and admission of wrongdoing, just a silent retraction of the offending piece.



If anything, it is the lack of appropriate censorship and moderation which is the problem.






The above is a great book worth reading. It's a lengthy quantitative analysis and scientific study of the nature of the right-wing media ecosystem and they demonstrate it has a propaganda feedback loop and a fundamental structural difference between it and the left-wing system. Dynamics on the right tend to reinforce partisan statements irrespective of their truth and to punish any actor--whether it be a politician, pundit or journalist--who contravenes the narratives within the ecosystem.


The reality check dynamic is just completely different in conservative and right-wing circles.

[FChumChum]

(title)


Personally, no. Someone wont question you if you like small government and lower taxes. More of an emphasis on state's rights and less of a focus on the encroaching arm of the Fed... these aren't banned thought, yet.

But I will judge some loony who followed Trumpty to the point of rebellion. That's poor judgment, right there. Guy speaks in a way that gets people's passions going, driving them into a frenzy to do something dumb, like overwhelm the Capitol.


cheers

No but because of the messenger, anti science, anti-intellectualism, borderline racist (or at least very charged), a lot of the opinions are easy to dismiss.

Some of the views dont come from a credible place imo.

On the far left, you have a bunch of woke activists. On the far right, you have a bunch of uneducated hicks. There’s a reason it’s hard to take either side seriously.

[frankdtank20]

Non-woke viewpoints are both censored and attacked. Not merely right wing.

[Latinowarrior3]

They're 100% censored. Denying it is absurd.

[Cleveland33]

They're 100% censored. Denying it is absurd.

even lowering taxes was shamed in this board by a handful of resident leftists and you hear it more in the mainstream as well

[plsmire]

How many of you can openly post on social media or say to do-workers, opinions that should be ok to spout:

- disagree with gay marriage
- believe there are only 2 genders
- say that trans is a mental illness which is what it was defined before politics got into it
- explain his man to woman wage gap is a lie
- explain why there will never be as many female engineers as men (google employee fired for this)
- discredit metoo as being a witch-hunt without due process
- explain how the stats don’t support blm
- explain how blm is one big fat lie
- tell everyone George Floyd was a drug addict criminal who didn’t die from police brutality but covid + fetanyl

Go on, try it. Tell me how people receive it and nod as they do for lefties saying the opposite.

[Seamanbeast]

What I find interesting is how some of the liberal ideologies of the 1980s and 1990s are now actually the domain of the Republicans, and vice versa. The anti-corporate, pro-small business mindset that Democrats used to have is now the sole domain of the Republicans, meanwhile Democrats are actively courting the megacorporation's in an attempt to fully embrace globalism and world trade. The Democrats have also seemed to completely abandon the anti-war stance. It's not that they are necessarily pro-war, but you can clearly feel the trading of spaces as the Republicans went from a very pro-war party to very anti-war party after the Obama years. Republicans are slowly becoming the new hippie party, pro freedom of speech, even if it offends, pro small business, and anti government and corporate corruption. Strange times.

[frankdtank20]

How many of you can openly post on social media or say to do-workers, opinions that should be ok to spout:

- disagree with gay marriage
- believe there are only 2 genders
- say that trans is a mental illness which is what it was defined before politics got into it
- explain his man to woman wage gap is a lie
- explain why there will never be as many female engineers as men (google employee fired for this)
- discredit metoo as being a witch-hunt without due process
- explain how the stats don’t support blm
- explain how blm is one big fat lie
- tell everyone George Floyd was a drug addict criminal who didn’t die from police brutality but covid + fetanyl

Go on, try it. Tell me how people receive it and nod as they do for lefties saying the opposite.

I don't agree with everything you wrote, but most. I've talked about some of those things like 5 yrs ago. Not now. The Sperging out and death threats from the Left are a real thing. A friend of a friend sent me threats against my family, most specifically about my son after I pointed out his far Left position was so wrong with some basic stats.

The only ones I'll hit directly still are how the wage gap is false and women CHOOSE different careers than men. Otherwise, I'll argue on the margins of those topics, as I don't need the headaches if I go head on. Or for someone to try costing me business.

[MuscleXtreme]

How many of you can openly post on social media or say to do-workers, opinions that should be ok to spout:

- disagree with gay marriage
- believe there are only 2 genders
- say that trans is a mental illness which is what it was defined before politics got into it
- explain his man to woman wage gap is a lie
- explain why there will never be as many female engineers as men (google employee fired for this)
- discredit metoo as being a witch-hunt without due process
- explain how the stats don’t support blm
- explain how blm is one big fat lie
- tell everyone George Floyd was a drug addict criminal who didn’t die from police brutality but covid + fetanyl

Go on, try it. Tell me how people receive it and nod as they do for lefties saying the opposite.

This post nails it.

[MuscleXtreme]

I don't agree with everything you wrote, but most. I've talked about some of those things like 5 yrs ago. Not now. The Sperging out and death threats from the Left are a real thing. A friend of a friend sent me threats against my family, most specifically about my son after I pointed out his far Left position was so wrong with some basic stats.

The only ones I'll hit directly still are how the wage gap is false and women CHOOSE different careers than men. Otherwise, I'll argue on the margins of those topics, as I don't need the headaches if I go head on. Or for someone to try costing me business.

What did you do when your son was threatened?

[CrimsonSteel]

The phaggots on the left have misappropriated the term Nazi for 5 years and beyond. Gina says ONE thing comparing the radicalism of the massess, today, to what happened in the preamble to Nazi Germany....BAN HER! CANCEL HER! FIRE HER! Meanwhile Mando himself is sharing propaganda memes that misappropriate a picture from another country to frame America as Nazi Germany.

The double standards are so massive they're undeniable. I've never considered myself right or left but I've also never felt so intellectually frail I need to silence an entire party of politics. Quite frankly, CRT, Cultural Marxism, identity politics, and similar mindsets are the biggest scourge on civilized discourse. Those ideologies are every bit as hateful and dangerous as actual KKK and Nazi members, but the phaggot media lets the left run buckwild and ramp up their hate rhetoric every single day.

How many of you can openly post on social media or say to do-workers, opinions that should be ok to spout:

- disagree with gay marriage
- believe there are only 2 genders
- say that trans is a mental illness which is what it was defined before politics got into it
- explain his man to woman wage gap is a lie
- explain why there will never be as many female engineers as men (google employee fired for this)
- discredit metoo as being a witch-hunt without due process
- explain how the stats don’t support blm
- explain how blm is one big fat lie
- tell everyone George Floyd was a drug addict criminal who didn’t die from police brutality but covid + fetanyl

Go on, try it. Tell me how people receive it and nod as they do for lefties saying the opposite.

Yea, the alt-left are too intellectually frail to have an actual debate, so they dehumanize opposition to take the intellectual accountability off of them and turn the convos emotional.

[JoshLV]

Quite the opposite, IMO.



The right wing media ecosystem is bereft of the usual standards of checks and balances which would properly moderate and contain the flow and dissemination of information in any other context. Propaganda and disinformation can much more freely flow through the lifeblood of the Fox News & Breitbart organism than they could in leftist or centrist circles. Elsewhere, if incorrect misinformation is published retractions and apologies are the norm. Not so in the right wing ecosystem, where a ludicrous conspiracy theory can be born in Alex Jones' basement and be seen aired on Fox News or Trump's twitter mere days later. Even if completely untrue, you rarely see a public apology and admission of wrongdoing, just a silent retraction of the offending piece.



If anything, it is the lack of appropriate censorship and moderation which is the problem.






The above is a great book worth reading. It's a lengthy quantitative analysis and scientific study of the nature of the right-wing media ecosystem and they demonstrate it has a propaganda feedback loop and a fundamental structural difference between it and the left-wing system. Dynamics on the right tend to reinforce partisan statements irrespective of their truth and to punish any actor--whether it be a politician, pundit or journalist--who contravenes the narratives within the ecosystem.


The reality check dynamic is just completely different in conservative and right-wing circles.

And this is what having a bag over your head looks like. I’ve never read pseudo intellectual projective puke at this level on the misc. You should spend more time actually reading the news from multiple sources and less time searching the couch cushions for fancy words.

[CrimsonSteel]

And this is what having a bag over your head looks like. I’ve never read pseudo intellectual projective puke at this level on the misc. You should spend more time actually reading the news from multiple sources and less time searching the couch cushions for fancy words.

That post would be accurate about the right a few decades ago, maybe, but now they seem to have almost no power. And the fact he didn't mention once the fact "wokeness" is a straight up cult that hyperfocuses on racial gaslighting is hilarious.

[JoshLV]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...r-trump-435293

Can grab a few hundred more examples if needed.

[JoshLV]

That post would be accurate about the right a few decades ago, maybe, but now they seem to have almost no power. And the fact he didn't mention once the fact "wokeness" is a straight up cult that hyperfocuses on racial gaslighting is hilarious.

The right used to cancel anything they didn’t agree with- anti religion, phaggy time, music, etc.

The modern right is the new counter culture who is vehemently against cancelling anything. The leftist will cancel anything that will get them a blue check mark. They will try to cancel you for who you voted for. How the turns have tabled.

[JayJ350]

Well yeah it's well documented how the left is censoring the right.

[JayJ350]

The right used to cancel anything they didn’t agree with- anti religion, phaggy time, music, etc.

The modern right is the new counter culture who is vehemently against cancelling anything. The leftist will cancel anything that will get them a blue check mark. They will try to cancel you for who you voted for. How the turns have tabled.

I have said this many times, the far left and far right have switched sides. All those puritan control freaks are on the left now, and the right is where you will find the free thinking rebels.

[stfudonny]

negged

[GreekyBeth]

How bad is it when someone like me (trans) aligns with conservatism over progressivism?

And I know how some on the right feel about me being trans, but the left is so fukked up I don’t even know where to begin.

I’d rather face excoriation from a few on the right before I ever adopt the nutso ideology of the left.


Inb4 I’m mentally ill
Inb4 clown world

This based tranny isn’t going anywhere.

And yes to the poll question.