Misc Firearms Crew LXXIX: Tax Stamps, Background Checks, and Mag Caps

[criminal_manne]

Eotech falsely reports lab controlled test results because there was zero real world failures occurring.

eOtEcH ****eD tHe MiLiTaRy

What they did was shady and poor, but don't make it seem like they slit a bunch of baby throats.

Eotech is still the number one optic used by the military, both conventional and unconventional, for a reason (and it has nothing to do with cost).

Because its GOAT optic amirite. Thought the Marines used ACOGs though.

[Farley1324]

Because its GOAT optic amirite. Thought the Marines used ACOGs though.

"The world's most combat proven optic" or so says Trijicon about their ACOG

“The ACOG mounted on the M16 service rifle has proven to be the biggest improvement in lethality for the Marine infantryman since the introduction of the M1 Garand in World War II.”

Major General J.N. Mattis
Commanding General, 1st Marine Division
Operation Iraqi Freedom



You guys were all about Mattis, right?

[criminal_manne]

"The world's most combat proven optic" or so says Trijicon about their ACOG

“The ACOG mounted on the M16 service rifle has proven to be the biggest improvement in lethality for the Marine infantryman since the introduction of the M1 Garand in World War II.”

Major General J.N. Mattis
Commanding General, 1st Marine Division
Operation Iraqi Freedom



You guys were all about Mattis, right?

I don’t know anything about Mattis but can’t go wrong with an ACOG on your rifle.

[LinuxJon]

Depends who it is. If a bunch of Anti-gun Biden supporter neighbors are all prepped out I’m taking their chit day one on principle alone.

Lmao. I guess I can't argue with that.

I'd be down for raiding big box retail, but risks seem too high attempting to go into residential. If we somehow were still in SHTF when our supplies were low, at that point would probably be bugging out of town.

[rectifryer]

Lmao. I guess I can't argue with that.

I'd be down for raiding big box retail, but risks seem too high attempting to go into residential. If we somehow were still in SHTF when our supplies were low, at that point would probably be bugging out of town.

what are you going to do outside of town that you couldn't do there? You think there are more supplies than in town?

best thing you can do is stick together with your community and organize a plan.

If you don't like your community then I guess you've fukked up already then...

[Farley1324]

what are you going to do outside of town that you couldn't do there?

Right??

[criminal_manne]

Anyone file a form 4 recently ? Mailed mine in almost a month ago and they still haven’t cashed me check. Starting to get anxious.

[CdtCox]

I’ve seen less than 5 eotechs in the military IRL

All the M4s have had Aimpoints or ACOGs

[spirit750]

Right??

What did you see about the UH-1 that made you get it? I haven't noticed anything amazing being said. Is it astigmatism proof?

[Farley1324]

What did you see about the UH-1 that made you get it? I haven't noticed anything amazing being said. Is it astigmatism proof?

It is unfortunately not astigmatism proof. To my eye, only etched reticles are. BUT it does look better than my Aimpoint PRO did in that regard and viewed through a flipped up rear aperture, it looks very good.

I decided I wanted some optic(s) with the circle around a dot and not just the little solo dot, and still won't buy eotech. It has a greater FOV (perception) than the micro dots. Both eyes open it doesn't/shouldn't really matter, but the little aimpoint micro/Romeo5 size tubes just have that through a straw effect and I kinda got used to looking through the MRO and the little ones feel so...little, now.

I also, honestly, didn't even realize the MRO HD existed until after I ordered the UH-1. I probably would have gone MRO HD but oh well. The basic MRO is on my HD firearm and the battery life on the UH-1 is good enough that if I take it anywhere I'll just turn it on and leave it on (does have 14 hour auto off). I also like that it takes CR123, those are easier to find for me than even CR2032 and more importantly I have CR123 for other things already anyway (flashlights, WML's, Arlo cameras, whatever else). So pretty much for my uses the only MRO HD advantage vs UH-1 would be slightly less weight, but 11 oz with mount for the UH-1 isn't bad at all

As long as I have one made in USA basic RDS that can be always-on, I'll have that on my HD firearm and play around with the rest


Edit: Also sage dynamics and flannel daddy both had in depth and very positive videos so that always helps, that's a strong combo

[criminal_manne]

MAC had a negative MRO HD review and he’s a borderline shill. Something with the trasmitter being visible when the circle part of circle dot is turned off?

https://youtu.be/sFZu1AonOtw

[Farley1324]

MAC had a negative MRO HD review and he’s a borderline shill. Something with the trasmitter being visible when the circle part of circle dot is turned off?

https://youtu.be/sFZu1AonOtw

Ohhhh yes I forgot about that. After looking at the MRO HD I decided it was fine I didn't know about it until after buying because I would have been scared away by that.

Lots of feedback out there, actually, of the ghost image or whatever you want to call it on the MRO HD.

For shame, Trijicon, you're better than that

[criminal_manne]

Ohhhh yes I forgot about that. After looking at the MRO HD I decided it was fine I didn't know about it until after buying because I would have been scared away by that.

Lots of feedback out there, actually, of the ghost image or whatever you want to call it on the MRO HD.

For shame, Trijicon, you're better than that

Yes, but at the same time why would anyone look through the optic with it off.

Not sure it’s a huge deal.

[criminal_manne]

If you are viewing your dots through the rear aperture do you then use absolute co-witness mounts ? Kind of defeats the purpose of the higher 1/3 mounts doesn’t it.

[DualRectifier]

If you are viewing your dots through the rear aperture do you then use absolute co-witness mounts ? Kind of defeats the purpose of the higher 1/3 mounts doesn’t it.

Unless you're trying to peel some guy's melon holding your woman hostage at home defense distances, what kind of sights do you need? Are you trying to self-defense snipe at 100+ yards? Just point it and shoot

[Farley1324]

Yes, but at the same time why would anyone look through the optic with it off.

Not sure it’s a huge deal.

My understanding is that you get the ghost/shadowing when the optic is set to dot only and not ring + dot.

If it's only when optic is completely turned off then I agree, who careslol

If you are viewing your dots through the rear aperture do you then use absolute co-witness mounts ? Kind of defeats the purpose of the higher 1/3 mounts doesn’t it.

Treat somewhat like a flip to side magnifier. Keep rear sight down unless and until you want to cozy up and take a precise shot (like, when zero-ing the rifle), flip it up temporarily for that, but generally have it down

[criminal_manne]

Unless you're trying to peel some guy's melon holding your woman hostage at home defense distances, what kind of sights do you need? Are you trying to self-defense snipe at 100+ yards? Just point it and shoot

I’m trying to mow down Chinese communist party dissidents at any distance.

Was more speaking to the trick of getting the dot more crisp by using the rear iron sight. But yea I get what you’re saying.

[DualRectifier]

I’m trying to mow down Chinese communist party dissidents at any distance.

Was more speaking to the trick of getting the dot more crisp by using the rear iron sight. But yea I get what you’re saying.

That's fine but just think of what a real world defensive use of an AR is, and look at some videos on TheNYC, Hoodsite, Liveleak, etc. None of these fukkers are using iron or red dot sights. The range is almost always so close you really don't need any sights at all, not that anyone bothers to use them anyway in a panic situation. I can shoot the balls off a flea but I know a real world situation isn't like the movies where you have 10 minutes to get into position and sight in the target. Of course I still have Ampoint PROs on my main sticks.

[criminal_manne]

That's fine but just think of what a real world defensive use of an AR is, and look at some videos on TheNYC, Hoodsite, Liveleak, etc. None of these fukkers are using iron or red dot sights. The range is almost always so close you really don't need any sights at all, not that anyone bothers to use them anyway in a panic situation. I can shoot the balls off a flea but I know a real world situation isn't like the movies where you have 10 minutes to get into position and sight in the target. Of course I still have Ampoint PROs on my main sticks.

Does hood site offer any home defense training classes? I’d be interested.

[Unstumpable]

That's fine but just think of what a real world defensive use of an AR is, and look at some videos on TheNYC, Hoodsite, Liveleak, etc. None of these fukkers are using iron or red dot sights. The range is almost always so close you really don't need any sights at all, not that anyone bothers to use them anyway in a panic situation. I can shoot the balls off a flea but I know a real world situation isn't like the movies where you have 10 minutes to get into position and sight in the target. Of course I still have Ampoint PROs on my main sticks.

Fuarkkkk mirin

[Farley1324]

So what's everyone's favorite WML these days?

Anybody have the new Rein? The beast-tank OWL? Surefire Scout? Or going poverty with Streamlight railmount? An aficionados with modlite?

[Unstumpable]

OWL crew. Probably need to pick up another one for another rifle, will probably go with the rein on the next one.

[Brozef]

I need a light for my G17.

I keep forgetting to look into it.

[criminal_manne]

For Rifle I have a Modlite and Surefire M600DF

Both seem durable and haven’t broke or anything but the modlite beam is tight AF and seems overall brighter. Would recommend.

OWL’s are big AF imo and ugly.

[IronILLinois]

i've been waiting for a deal on an OWL. might get a couple.

[gbullock32]

Olight Odin crew, cheap and works great.

[IronILLinois]

I need a light for my G17.

I keep forgetting to look into it.

Surefire x300u brah. i love it. you can find them $200 shipped new.

[Unstumpable]

OWL’s are big AF imo and ugly.

But how quick you can throw them on or off is pretty sick. And no denying it works great.

[Farley1324]

I need a light for my G17.

I keep forgetting to look into it.

Two options

Surefire X300u-a

Streamlight TLR-1 HL

But how quick you can throw them on or off is pretty sick. And no denying it works great.

Their simplicity, incredible toughness, all in one design including pressure switch, and ability to put on/off with no tools on any rail with a pic top regardless of the design of the rest, is very appealing

[IronILLinois]

But how quick you can throw them on or off is pretty sick. And no denying it works great.

how many pic rail spots does it take up btw?