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    Air Force 1 plane with Trump and Biden

    Why can't Biden use the real AF1 plane? First a fake oval office, now he can't use the official president's plane? WTF is going on?





    Biden getting cucked.


    Picture of actual AF1 for comparison.

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    Biden doesn't get the real plane because he is not the real president.
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    Originally Posted by Jhamaican View Post
    Biden doesn't get the real plane because he is not the real president.
    BOOM! I already know this amigo. Perhaps the military is cucking biden.
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    Any plane the president is on is "air force 1" its not the name of a single aircraft.
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    Originally Posted by MFarrar74 View Post
    Any plane the president is on is "air force 1" its not the name of a single aircraft.
    So, by this logic, the helicopter that kobe bryant was in and crashed, could be marine one? LOL

    There is a reason these planes/choppers are assigned names. They're not your normal planes and helicopters.

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    Originally Posted by MFarrar74 View Post
    Any plane the president is on is "air force 1" its not the name of a single aircraft.
    This is what I was thinking. But I’ve never seen “another” AF1 until recent. Doesn’t mean there isn’t though.. just have never seen one or heard of another. Why not AF2 if so..?
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    Originally Posted by niospecv View Post
    So, by this logic, the helicopter that kobe bryant was in and crashed, could be marine one? LOL

    There is a reason these planes/choppers are assigned names. They're not your normal planes and helicopters.

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    It's technically true - whatever plane the President it is on is assigned AF1 at that specific time.

    There are two planes built for the President's travels - and it may just be that Biden had the planes painted after he was sworn in. I'm not sure on that.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    This is what I was thinking. But I’ve never seen “another” AF1 until recent. Doesn’t mean there isn’t though.. just have never seen one or heard of another. Why not AF2 if so..?
    AF2 is for the VP
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    I believe I saw somewhere that they had to use a smaller plane as the traditional AF1 jet was too large to land at the airport in Delaware they were using.
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    Originally Posted by niospecv View Post
    So, by this logic, the helicopter that kobe bryant was in and crashed, could be marine one? LOL

    There is a reason these planes/choppers are assigned names. They're not your normal planes and helicopters.

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    Originally Posted by MFarrar74 View Post
    Any plane the president is on is "air force 1" its not the name of a single aircraft.
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    Originally Posted by ChaseW View Post
    I believe I saw somewhere that they had to use a smaller plane as the traditional AF1 jet was too large to land at the airport in Delaware they were using.

    "Not authored by me but fact checked and WORTH reading to prove his use of the C-32 yesterday was ON purpose and nothing to do with runway length or the 'REAL' AF1's lack of functionality (remember, AF1 is not a specific aircraft but rather the call sign for the aircraft that the POTUS is on)

    The MSM say that Joe Biden had to use that Boeing 757-200 (C-32) because the airport they were going to land at wasn't big enough for a Boeing 747. This is, to put it bluntly, Fake News.

    The plane landed at Delaware's New Castle Air National Guard Base. Home to the 166th Airlift Wing. They have 3 runways with lengths of 4602 ft, 7012 ft, and 7275 ft. A VC-25 can use a runway as short as 5000 ft safely and AF1 has done so routinely during previous admin trips. So, that dog won't hunt. Others have wondered, "Was Air Force One simply in for repairs, or being redecorated, so Joe Biden couldn't use it?"

    That would work except there are two VC-25a Air Force Ones; says so right on the Whitehouse website. Also, the Air Force rules dictate that one of these aircraft is fully operational (flight ready) at all times. In addition, there are other aircraft available to the President of the US, not the least of which is Marine One which is certainly capable of reaching that NG base.

    Some have pointed out that the length of a runway is not the only consideration when it comes to a particular aircraft's runway requirements. I agree. However, I think that the fact that President Barack Obama was aboard AF1 when it landed at the New Castle Air National Guard Base on July 17, 2014 can be used as pretty imperical evidence that AF1 has no problem touching down or taking off from New Castle Air National Guard Base."
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    I am trying to see if the plane****s were able to confirm that Biden never got the "AF1" squawk when he flew on his pretend little president flight. Unsure if thats an angle here or not.

    But even the propaganda outlets are trying to get ahead of these discrepancies https://archive.is/Jcsmq




    "Okay, here's the SIMPLE STORY.
    they showed the public footage of Biden flying on AF1 (to dispell the unacknowledged rumors that he isn't president)
    that footage was from 2008-2016 when Biden was VP
    some "moron" said, "Wait a minute. Why is he on the VP airplane?"
    they said, "Oh, crap, we missed that. we need an excuse"
    so they conjured up the "mystery intruder at Andrews" story.
    get it yet?"



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    Here people show Biden's flight, and show that he did NOT have the AF1 callsign during that flight. Could be due to "security" or some BS reason, but this just gets more and more bizarre. Almost like we are watching a movie.
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    BOOM! I already know this amigo. Perhaps the military is cucking biden.
    Between this and the fake oval pic, you're losing it, son. Maybe you should find something to do for the next four years?
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    Between this and the fake oval pic, you're losing it, son. Maybe you should find something to do for the next four years?
    Here we have a miscer showing true colors. He can dish fake news and conspiracy theories for four years, but can't take it in return.
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    OP is correct.

    Biden is not actually president.

    Alex Jones is the actual president, David Duke is the VP, and Qanon Brown is the Attorney General.
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    Here is yet ANOTHER discrepancy, why are these leftists re-using old images and trying to pass them off as new?

    Where is Biden? WHy is he not doing any of the tings a real president would do, or be seen by the public IRL?
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    "Not authored by me but fact checked and WORTH reading to prove his use of the C-32 yesterday was ON purpose and nothing to do with runway length or the 'REAL' AF1's lack of functionality (remember, AF1 is not a specific aircraft but rather the call sign for the aircraft that the POTUS is on)

    The MSM say that Joe Biden had to use that Boeing 757-200 (C-32) because the airport they were going to land at wasn't big enough for a Boeing 747. This is, to put it bluntly, Fake News.

    The plane landed at Delaware's New Castle Air National Guard Base. Home to the 166th Airlift Wing. They have 3 runways with lengths of 4602 ft, 7012 ft, and 7275 ft. A VC-25 can use a runway as short as 5000 ft safely and AF1 has done so routinely during previous admin trips. So, that dog won't hunt. Others have wondered, "Was Air Force One simply in for repairs, or being redecorated, so Joe Biden couldn't use it?"

    That would work except there are two VC-25a Air Force Ones; says so right on the Whitehouse website. Also, the Air Force rules dictate that one of these aircraft is fully operational (flight ready) at all times. In addition, there are other aircraft available to the President of the US, not the least of which is Marine One which is certainly capable of reaching that NG base.

    Some have pointed out that the length of a runway is not the only consideration when it comes to a particular aircraft's runway requirements. I agree. However, I think that the fact that President Barack Obama was aboard AF1 when it landed at the New Castle Air National Guard Base on July 17, 2014 can be used as pretty imperical evidence that AF1 has no problem touching down or taking off from New Castle Air National Guard Base."
    So the point is that he wasn't really there and they were using old pictures of him? Meaning he is somewhere in a pickle jar right now?
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    Originally Posted by Retoaded View Post
    So the point is that he wasn't really there and they were using old pictures of him? Meaning he is somewhere in a pickle jar right now?
    You tell me. Maybe Joe was there, but why would this clown post the same photo and pretend like Biden went to church?

    Why?
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    Originally Posted by niospecv View Post
    So, by this logic, the helicopter that kobe bryant was in and crashed, could be marine one? LOL

    There is a reason these planes/choppers are assigned names. They're not your normal planes and helicopters.

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    Any AF aircraft POTUS is on gets the callsign AirForce1. Any marine aircraft POTUS is on gets the callsign Marine 1.

    When one of the VC25s, the plane you falsely claim is always called AirForce1, flew Obama to California after his presidency ended its callsign was not AirForce1. It was SAM44. Special Air Mission 44



    You really should do a quick google search on all of this.

    Boeing c-32:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_C-32

    The C-32, since its debut, has also served as Air Force One in place of the larger VC-25A to airports that cannot accommodate the Boeing 747-based "jumbo" jet.
    If POTUS is on a US registered civil aircraft its callsign becomes Executive One.

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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    I am trying to see if the plane****s were able to confirm that Biden never got the "AF1" squawk when he flew on his pretend little president flight. Unsure if thats an angle here or not.

    But even the propaganda outlets are trying to get ahead of these discrepancies https://archive.is/Jcsmq




    "Okay, here's the SIMPLE STORY.
    they showed the public footage of Biden flying on AF1 (to dispell the unacknowledged rumors that he isn't president)
    that footage was from 2008-2016 when Biden was VP
    some "moron" said, "Wait a minute. Why is he on the VP airplane?"
    they said, "Oh, crap, we missed that. we need an excuse"
    so they conjured up the "mystery intruder at Andrews" story.
    get it yet?"



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    Here people show Biden's flight, and show that he did NOT have the AF1 callsign during that flight. Could be due to "security" or some BS reason, but this just gets more and more bizarre. Almost like we are watching a movie.
    More often that not flight tracking services hide/disguise the call signs of military and VIP transport. AFAIK, AF1 has the abilty to identify itself as something other than the VC25 for security reasons.

    Regarding the runway length argument, length alone is not the determining factor of whether an airplane can use it. For a heavy transport aircraft like the 747 (actually for all aircraft) we take into account runway conditions such as wet/dry/snow/ice and braking action as reported by other landing aircraft, and weather such as wind, temp, air pressure. There's a lot more to it than just runway length. The landing weight of the aircraft can make a runway usable for one landing but not the next if the aircraft weight is higher on the next landing. A runway may have a published length of 5000 feet but, more importantly, it has a published LDA (landing distance available) which can be shorter than the actual runway length. This is what pilots use when determining if the runway can be used for landing, along with the other criteria I mentioned.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    It's technically true - whatever plane the President it is on is assigned AF1 at that specific time.
    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    AF2 is for the VP
    Originally Posted by MFarrar74 View Post
    Any plane the president is on is "air force 1" its not the name of a single aircraft.
    these. how do people not know this?
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post







    Here is yet ANOTHER discrepancy, why are these leftists re-using old images and trying to pass them off as new?

    Where is Biden? WHy is he not doing any of the tings a real president would do, or be seen by the public IRL?

    Well, the following was attached.



    Looks like this guy with only 27K followers wanted to show a contrast with Trump, but since he didn't have a current pic he used an old one which is lazy. But, Biden was at the church on that day and living less than an hour from Delaware myself, it was snowing Sunday morning so the pics make sense. No conspiracy, just some brown nosing Biden supporter cutting corners.


    And as far as AF1, everyone thinking there is a conspiracy is retarded. As Plano pointed out, there are several factors when picking a plane for a runway. We have had multiple winter storms this last week, that could easily explain why a smaller plane was used and yes, any plane the President travels on is AF1.
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    There’s different planes depending on where the pres. goes. The huge AF1 can’t land on the smaller airports ergo the one Biden is pictured in is used


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    Originally Posted by PlanoLifter View Post
    More often that not flight tracking services hide/disguise the call signs of military and VIP transport. AFAIK, AF1 has the abilty to identify itself as something other than the VC25 for security reasons.

    Regarding the runway length argument, length alone is not the determining factor of whether an airplane can use it. For a heavy transport aircraft like the 747 (actually for all aircraft) we take into account runway conditions such as wet/dry/snow/ice and braking action as reported by other landing aircraft, and weather such as wind, temp, air pressure. There's a lot more to it than just runway length. The landing weight of the aircraft can make a runway usable for one landing but not the next if the aircraft weight is higher on the next landing. A runway may have a published length of 5000 feet but, more importantly, it has a published LDA (landing distance available) which can be shorter than the actual runway length. This is what pilots use when determining if the runway can be used for landing, along with the other criteria I mentioned.
    Have you ever read if AF1 has some sort of STOL capability? I thought I read that but I couldn't imagine what you'd do with a 747 to achieve that. It may have just been talking about how their takeoff protocol is pretty much full blast and max climb.
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