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    Exclamation Your current vehicle is probably going to be your last gasser/diesel ever srs

    At least your main vehicle. If you are an enthusiasts, I'm sure you'll still have a gasser in the garage to wrench on (while paying enormous environmental fees for the privilege)

    California looking to be 100% electric in the coming decades.

    GM announced they will be all electric by 2035

    China is pushing hard for all electric vehicles by 2030. If you want to drive a gasser, you'll pay high fees


    Anyone here a contrarian to this idea? It seems like the writing is on the wall.
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    says everyone literally every decade, yet they pop up in your hood everyday. What are you just gonna waltz up and steal every gas car in broad daylight? They're being passed around like hotcakes every generation....ever.
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    I've been thinking about this.

    If we currently own like a $40k truck, do you recommend selling now and getting an old beater and wait it out until electric becomes standard?
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    Originally Posted by MikeLowrrrey View Post
    If this AMC goes through I'm buy a W218 CLS63 AMG. HNNNNNNG
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    Originally Posted by Trillical View Post
    I've been thinking about this.

    If we currently own like a $40k truck, do you recommend selling now and getting an old beater and wait it out until electric becomes standard?
    I've thought about this. Mine is around $26k and a couple of years old. Since mine is on the lower side, I think I'm just going to ride it until the wheels fall off. But I'm not buying another gasser. It should give me enough time for my truck to get old and after I've wrenched on it and replaced a few things and gotten tired of paying environmental taxes, it'll only make sense to transition into whatever electrics are available at the time
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    im pretty bummed out, as i am finally starting to make enough money to spend money on cars, upgrades, etc --- but TBH, after reading Elon's biography, i want to own a Tesla model S one day (ded fkn Srs)


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    that's a lot of coal and natural gas to generate all that electricity
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    says everyone literally every decade, yet they pop up in your hood everyday. What are you just gonna waltz up and steal every gas car in broad daylight? They're being passed around like hotcakes every generation....ever.
    This...they said this 20 years ago and look what we have..

    In all honesty I picked up a new ford last month and I really wanted the hybrid edition but that dealer was lame as hell and wouldn't move on pricing and wanted me in person while the gas dealer gave had me approved in 4 emails. Go figure.
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    I've been thinking about this.

    If we currently own like a $40k truck, do you recommend selling now and getting an old beater and wait it out until electric becomes standard?

    Seems dumb to do that. You have 14 years at least before electric becomes standard. That could be 14% of your life. Are you really going to lose a lot of utility for a significant portion of your life to save maybe $10k?
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    I'm on board, I want one. I'll keep my old pickup just as a collectible.

    I see it as similar to the "quartz crisis" in watchmaking. Piston engines will still be around but more like the mechanical watch, where they're more of a luxury item or for enthusiasts.
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    california can't handle the grid load of even increasing by 10% electric cars LOL

    the whole thing is a complete scam

    most of the electricity is coming from coal/nat gas anyway

    the blood cobalt from the DRC is a constant atrocity and there simply isn't enough to make that many batteries

    electric cars wear out tires much faster than gas cars, the pollution of which is worse than exhaust

    the batteries are way worse to dispose of than anything in a normal vehicle

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    hybrid buses have already become the standard, at least here.

    there is the worry that current infrastructure may not support the amount of electric cars that can be on the road

    however they are becoming cheaper and more affordable and they are becoming better and better in terms of efficiency and battery tech.

    China has poured a chit ton of money into EV tech and are pretty much all in. I could definitely see it being the norm by 2035. life changes really fast nowadays, just look at how social media blew up since 2010.
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    Innovate technology sells itself. People naturally adopt it because it makes their life better and reduces costs.

    Agenda based technology almost always requires force and tax incentives to increase adoption rates. People resist this technology and hold out to the final moment before they are forced to adopt

    Where do electric vehicles fall at this point?
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    Originally Posted by Trillical View Post
    I've been thinking about this.

    If we currently own like a $40k truck, do you recommend selling now and getting an old beater and wait it out until electric becomes standard?
    Electric cars arent going mainstream until 2025+, they will be the norm but the time isnt now

    Change your gas car every 3 years or so until electrics are affordable

    srs
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    Originally Posted by MadNinjaSkills View Post
    So what’s CA’s plan to make sure the electricity actually stays on? We get rolling blackouts as it is.
    This lmao

    I'll believe that electric cars can be the standard when they can have even one year without shutting off the power to multiple counties because of santa ana winds

    hope you, joe, and the kiddos are doing well bby
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    Originally Posted by MuscleXtreme View Post
    Seems dumb to do that. You have 14 years at least before electric becomes standard. That could be 14% of your life. Are you really going to lose a lot of utility for a significant portion of your life to save maybe $10k?
    You're right bro. 15 years is a lot of time to squeeze out of a car so ya I'm def keeping my gasser.

    Originally Posted by Beast92 View Post
    Electric cars arent going mainstream until 2025+, they will be the norm but the time isnt now

    Change your gas car every 3 years or so until electrics are affordable

    srs
    Why not just keep the same gas car? Why change every 3 years? To avoid depreciation? Who's to say that gas cars are worth anything the year before electric becomes standard.
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    Originally Posted by Ratfish View Post
    california can't handle the grid load of even increasing by 10% electric cars LOL

    the whole thing is a complete scam

    most of the electricity is coming from coal/nat gas anyway

    the blood cobalt from the DRC is a constant atrocity and there simply isn't enough to make that many batteries

    electric cars wear out tires much faster than gas cars, the pollution of which is worse than exhaust

    the batteries are way worse to dispose of than anything in a normal vehicle

    takes almost 10 years for an electric car to beat a diesel in overall efficiency
    What he said. Plus PP who mentioned a lack of charging stations.

    Would also add that AFAIK the range of an electric vehicle isn't that great. Could be fine for someone who lives in a city and takes a plane when they travel longer distances, but not very practical for rural people or people who travel longer distances by car.

    I'm fine with electric vehicles being an option, not a requirement. But they do need to figure out some way to make the road funding more fair (gas tax) because an electric vehicle uses a road same as a gas or diesel powered vehicle. The only way to be really fair about that would be a per mile use fee based on vehicle weight which would mean some kind of direct monitory of how far every vehicle is driven and I'm not keen on that level of government intrusion.
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    I love driving and wrenching my petrol car. My country is pushing really hard, wouldn't be surprised if i'm priced out of owning my car in the next 5 years.

    I'm guessing all electric cars are automatic as well? Can't ****ing stand anything but manual.
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    As if big oil would even allow it.
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    You mirin my old van ? Its used to be a gasser

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    I bought the 7 year warranty on the gas propelled daily driver car I purchased last year, so figure I'll be hanging onto it for awhile. I like EV cars. I'm planning on buying one at some point. I'm not sure that they will be popular in the colder areas of the country though. When it turns cold, 50F and lower, range can be severely curtailed. I'm not sure EVs are all that green when looking at the full circle of things too. Thankfully here in the US we have good fossil fuel resources. I can see countries that do not have fossil fuel resources, such as China and parts of Europe, going entirely EV. It wouldn't bother me if they went first and worked out all the bugs with longer charging times, cold weather issues, making them more reliable, etc.
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