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    Originally Posted by Rajc View Post
    having a set minimum wage is such a communistic concept lmao who was free market u pleberiños
    it really is, which is why the Left constantly pushes for it
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    Letting wages stagnate has really done well for us so far so why change it?
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    Originally Posted by Ratfish View Post
    currently, anyone making minimum wage is also on the dole

    when you raise the minimum wage, it shifts the cost from the taxpayer (initially) onto the employers

    it also increases the prices of everything sold by the retailers, which disproportionately affects poorcels

    additionally, it causes the retailers to automate and decrease jobs to hit the same labor cost target

    price fixing never works and the government never improves anything by meddling
    Why aren’t you posting in the R/P section more? People of good sense on short supply over there
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    Bernie has a history of his tweets aging very poorly.

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    National minimum wage in a country with the size and diversity of the US is a terrible idea. Minimum wage should be handled at a local level. Even within states the cost of living varies so much. Look at cost of living in NYC vs the cost of living outside of Buffalo for example.
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    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Letting wages stagnate has really done well for us so far so why change it?
    Maybe we should look at why wages have stagnated and work on that rather than thinking a legislative bandaid will do anything.

    And for anyone supporting $15 min wage why not 20 or 25 or 30? In answering that question you'll understand why $15 is a bad idea and in reality, there shouldn't be a min wage at all.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I'm a Bernie supporter but even I will admit if Super Tuesday didn't happen Bernie would not have beaten Trump. He would have evened out the black vote and hispanics (especially Cubans) are against socialism (programs).
    Bernie gathered people by the thousands, just as Trump. Biden couldn’t bring a hundred people together. Election was fuked with, if Sanders wasn’t kicked off the D card, it would have been a legit election. I believe.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Bernie gathered people by the thousands, just as Trump. Biden couldn’t bring a hundred people together. Election was fuked with, if Sanders wasn’t kicked off the D card, it would have been a legit election. I believe.
    The way I look at crowds is that is you only have to have a pretty small group of really hyper-motivated people to draw these crowds. When you compare the crowd sizes to the total number of US likely voters it's a minuscule fraction.

    The crowds represent basically your zombies (who the fuk would want to attend a political rally) it takes more than zombies to win an election.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    The way I look at crowds is that is you only have to have a pretty small group of really hyper-motivated people to draw these crowds. When you compare the crowd sizes to the total number of US likely voters it's a minuscule fraction.

    The crowds represent basically your zombies (who the fuk would want to attend a political rally) it takes more than zombies to win an election.
    By no one likes Biden...they still don’t. Saw way more supporters for Sanders than Biden across the country, & I travel from CA to Chicago routinely.
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    Wasn't it discovered that he wasn't even paying his employees 15 dollars an hr?
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    Going to do this right now? When small businesses have already been crushed by the government? Give it a year before even bringing this up. Also, how about we privatize our Social Security like Australia did decades ago? Funny he never brings up how Denmark privatized theirs either. Imagine how less stressed many people would be knowing they'll have 2-3x as much in their retirement fund than if we continue the same transfer program.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Wasn't it discovered that he wasn't even paying his employees 15 dollars an hr?
    Yea his staffers or some ****
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    Originally Posted by TexasTechPharmD View Post
    This isn't just about the amount but the rate at which it is going to raise. Going from $7.25 to $15 overnight will cause economic collapse. Minimum wage or any other wage should follow inflation in increase of its value.
    I agree. Raise it to $9 and it will help people out and not put too big of a burden on the economy. Raise it to $9.50 a few years later. They’ve been talking about $15 forever and could have slowly raised wages during that time. Instead they want to double it in one shot.
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    Why not just raise minimum wage to $100,000 per year and then we can all be rich. And give free Bentley's to everyone woohoo!
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    This whole system is a joke. Income inequality is a real issue but resigning the minimum wage will not solve the answer. This is such a complex issue that no one really wants to spend the time to have an honest discussion about this.
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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post

    But working 60 hours a week at any legit job should be able to give you some kind of decent style of living.?
    Yea but that’s where ppl get confused.
    You raise the min 15 that doesn’t mean it’ll be easier for u to live..society will catch back up. 15 being the bottom will be no different than 8 being the bottom. It’s just a different number except more ppl will struggle.

    You could expect rent to go up, vehicles, etc..those struggling right now making 8 will find themselves struggling once again at 15
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    Originally Posted by Evlve View Post
    Raising the minimum wage is sort of like forcing gyms to give free gym memberships to anyone that’s obese and expecting them all to lose weight
    LOL what the **** are you talking about?
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    $AUD vs. $USD. Shows the manipulation at play, deliberately misleading the people.
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    It makes sense when you take the time to digest the metaphor
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    LOL what the **** are you talking about?
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    Originally Posted by Sophus View Post
    Idk about that. The hispanics against socialist programs probably would have voted Trump anyway, same with the black voters

    Basically any Democrat in 2020 would have voted Bernie over Trump after 4 years of Trump being CNN's Hitler reincarnate
    That's true. At the very least it would have been much closer than the ass whipping Biden served.


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    I guess his logic is that $20 AUD is basically $15 USD. But it’s not that simple lmao.
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