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    Bills should trade Allen for Watson

    Watson wants out. He wants to go to a division rival either NY or Miami.

    Bills should make the call and try to sell high on what might have been a flash in the pan season for Allen. Keep watson out the division. Give texans another viable Franchise QB in return.

    Who says no if the Bills make the call?(assuming watson is onboard when he realizes the bills super bowl window is now?)
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    Nah. Josh Allen is still on his rookie contract next year and bills will have room to bring in defensive and offensive lineman to go all in next year because they have to pay Josh Allen the year after. They bring in Watsona nd they won't have enough cash to improve other positions.

    Yesterday's game had little to do with josh Allen being poor but more with the Ofensive line not being able to give Allen more then 2 seconds to throw and any of the DB's ablke to cover Tyreek Hill.
    Allen and Watson are going to get paid. Over the next 10 years the only question is whos better.

    Allen was amazing this year. But its one year. You never know. Watson has been elite since he stepped into the league. If I had to pick one, Id take watson.
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Allen and Watson are going to get paid. Over the next 10 years the only question is whos better.

    Allen was amazing this year. But its one year. You never know. Watson has been elite since he stepped into the league. If I had to pick one, Id take watson.
    This isn't Madden. There is 0 chance Allen is traded.
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    how many playoff wins does Watson have?
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    Originally Posted by dyee4613 View Post
    This isn't Madden. There is 0 chance Allen is traded.
    Watson getting traded already breaks the normal rules.

    Why not for Allen? If you're the bills, why say no? If you're the texans, why say no?
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    Originally Posted by HtotheOV View Post
    how many playoff wins does Watson have?
    1, compared to 2 for Allen one of which he didnt play well(Ravens) . Weird reason to not do the deal.

    The only good reason to not do it, is if you think Josh Allen is better. Do you?
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    No thanks, Allen has the strongest arm and the highest theoretical potential in the league if he gets the mental aspects figured out. Also, he is likely going to be more durable with his enormous frame to take NFL hits over the course of a career. Plus you can't concuss him because he was born with a concussed look on his face

    He was a raw prospect and his development over the last two years has been more than you could hope for. Let the trajectory continue. The only QB that you would take would be Mahomes, who will never be traded either
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    Originally Posted by DizzySmalls View Post
    No thanks, Allen has the strongest arm and the highest theoretical potential in the league if he gets the mental aspects figured out. Also, he is likely going to be more durable with his enormous frame to take NFL hits over the course of a career. Plus you can't concuss him because he was born with a concussed look on his face
    Fair enough, I think its at least worth considering. If Texans make that call and Bills just hang up, thats a mistake. Especially since otherwise he's probably in our division for 10+ years
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Watson getting traded already breaks the normal rules.

    Why not for Allen? If you're the bills, why say no? If you're the texans, why say no?
    1. Allen is the first legit Buffalo QB in forever. The city loves him. They would go nuts if he was traded. There is a reason franchise QB's are almost never traded when both sides are happy.
    2. Allen's 2020 is better than anything Watson has ever done in his career. Allen is arguably the greatest development project ever. Who is to say he doesn't get even better next year?
    3. The offense is designed explicitly for Allen. We have seen him be elite in this offense. Watson can probably excel in this offense but there is a lot more risk.
    4. Allen's salary in 2021 is like 6m. Watson's total salary is like 15m.
    5. This makes your team look real bad to free agents.

    If I'm the Bills, I'm hanging up immediately because I don't want it to get out I was considering trading Allen. If I'm the Texans, I'm accepting the trade ASAP because Watson is lost and Allen is the best return you will get.
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    Originally Posted by dyee4613 View Post
    1. Allen is the first legit Buffalo QB in forever. The city loves him. They would go nuts if he was traded. There is a reason franchise QB's are almost never traded when both sides are happy.
    2. Allen's 2020 is better than anything Watson has ever done in his career. Allen is arguably the greatest development project ever. Who is to say he doesn't get even better next year?
    3. The offense is designed explicitly for Allen. We have seen him be elite in this offense. Watson can probably excel in this offense but there is a lot more risk.
    4. Allen's salary in 2021 is like 6m. Watson's total salary is like 15m.
    5. This makes your team look real bad to free agents.

    If I'm the Bills, I'm hanging up immediately because I don't want it to get out I was considering trading Allen. If I'm the Texans, I'm accepting the trade ASAP because Watson is lost and Allen is the best return you will get.

    Everything you said makes sense, my thing is, I'm not so sure that Allen is capable of this kind of level on a regular basis. And You're putting down Watson I think. Many many people would take Watson over Allen, easily.
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Everything you said makes sense, my thing is, I'm not so sure that Allen is capable of this kind of level on a regular basis. And You're putting down Watson I think. Many many people would take Watson over Allen, easily.
    I agree with you. I'm just saying that this will never happen in real-life. Franchise quarterbacks (when happy) are almost never traded and even for disgruntled qbs it's rare. The risk is far too high. When you compound this with a super crazy fanbase that is absolutely in love with Allen who just tasted playoff success for the first time in their lives it just would never happen. There would probably be riots and unless Watson plays amazing you will absolutely be fired.

    For the record, I have Watson ranked slightly above Allen
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    Not sure why the Bills would do this. They already have a franchise QB and need to fix there defense and run game. I dont think Watson would have made a difference in yesterdays game.
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    nah, need to keep allen, fix their D, run game
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    lol no, Allen is better and is on a rookie contract
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    Teams don't trade their homegrown talent in lateral moves unless their hand is forced in some way. Bills will roll the dice on Allen over Watson no question after the season Allen just had.
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    Not sure why the Bills would do this. They already have a franchise QB and need to fix there defense and run game. I dont think Watson would have made a difference in yesterdays game.
    Whats in it for the Bills is Watson is better than Allen IMO, or at least if you project next 10 years you'd be crazy to not be on Watson IMO.

    And if you dont, watson is going to be in the division and fuk you for years.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    lol no, Allen is better and is on a rookie contract
    They're both going to get paid. The contract doesnt matter, except for next year but if you gotta look beyond 1 year. Over the next 10.

    I just don think Allen is better is what it comes down to I guess.
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    Allen for Watson and 2 firsts and then we could consider it.

    Watson just isn’t on Allen’s level
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    Allen for Watson and 2 firsts and then we could consider it.

    Watson just isn’t on Allen’s level
    I feel like you guys didnt see watson this year. He was unreal working with absolutely nothing. He had no bad games.
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    If the Bills can continue to build, Allen can win them a SB.
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    I feel like you guys didnt see watson this year. He was unreal working with absolutely nothing. He had no bad games.
    But he can’t take over games the way Allen did. If we had Watson the dolphins would’ve won the division
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    This trade makes 0 sense for the bills
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    But he can’t take over games the way Allen did. If we had Watson the dolphins would’ve won the division
    confirmed you didnt watch watson.
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    Originally Posted by Vhagar View Post
    This trade makes 0 sense for the bills
    Getting a better quarterback always make sense. Preventing your division rival from getting a top 5 QB always makes sense.

    Allen was great at times this year but he showed some signs that maybe its not really a consistent thing.

    Im not saying you should agree to do the deal, but to say its just out of the question is having way too much faith in Allen to keep doing this after 1 year, and not understanding how good watson is.
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    confirmed you didnt watch watson.
    When has Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes won just 4 games? Never cause good qbs don’t do that.

    Watson needs to learn how to not take 60 sacks a year.

    Bills aren’t gonna trade the at worst 4th best qb in the league for a diva qb who is at best the 5th best qb in the league. Not gonna happen.
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    When has Peyton, Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes won just 4 games? Never cause good qbs don’t do that.

    Watson needs to learn how to not take 60 sacks a year.

    Bills aren’t gonna trade the at worst 4th best qb in the league for a diva qb who is at best the 5th best qb in the league. Not gonna happen.

    Terrible comparison. Texans have literally nothing around Watson and he was incredible this year. He really stepped it up. He couldnt drag a bottom 3 roster to more wins, true. But go look at those games and tell me watson wasnt unbelievable. Some were calling for him to be named MVP for what he was doing.

    But ok, if he goes to the jets and or dolphins, I might be bumping this thread to say told you so
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Terrible comparison. Texans have literally nothing around Watson and he was incredible this year. He really stepped it up. He couldnt drag a bottom 3 roster to more wins, true. But go look at those games and tell me watson wasnt unbelievable. Some were calling for him to be named MVP for what he was doing.

    But ok, if he goes to the jets and or dolphins, I might be bumping this thread to say told you so
    Well the dolphins were 10-6 and shuffling qbs. Nobody has ever said Watson is worse than Tua or Fitzpatrick

    And the jets were bad cause gase and darnold are both bottom 5 coach and qb in the league.

    Not selling it well when your point is that he’s better than darnold and tua.

    QB leaders in nfl Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen....and Watson at 12. Seems about right
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    Originally Posted by ApeXXXPredator View Post
    If the Bills can continue to build, Allen can win them a SB.
    I'm not sure anyone can win a superbowl without multiple top 10 corners and wildly athletic quick reacting cover2 linebackers as long as Kelce and Hill are still playing w/ Mahomes under Reid. It's like crossing routes in Madden on rookie level, they aren't going to be stopped. You'd have to outscore them and hope for a few fumbles

    The Chiefs have only lost a few games in recent history. I don't really see them losing any time soon other than very rare one off games. Best offense in history in terms of weapons
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