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    Biden is going to try to close private, for profit prisons.

    Just saw it on a CNN vidjya, sorry no link. I guess they released a copy of his schedule for next week and this was on there. Of course we will see how it unfolds.

    I feel like this will be a yuge win for our CJ system. People should not be a resource sold for financial gain under contract. I am ashamed and disappointed it ever happened in the first place. While hopeful, I am maintaining expectation management though. I’m not familiar with the numbers, but I don’t think these contract companies a super huge/financially secure, so I don’t think their lobbying will come into play at all. I might look more into it later today.

    I’m hopeful.
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    Damn, I guess that means Trump will make less money since he cannot get kick backs from these private prisons.
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    is it so Kamala can make them under the federal control so she can exploit more cheap labor?
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    Originally Posted by paulpfiction View Post
    is it so Kamala can make them under the federal control so she can exploit more cheap labor?
    That chick is a oughtful kunt man. She isn’t involved in CJ anymore so I hope she just stays out of it.
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    a piece of good news in a bleak pond of chit

    The US has by far the world's largest prison population -and- the highest incarceration rate.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rate



    a rational plan to fix what's wrong with America:

    - end all private prisons

    - end all labor of prisoners for the manufacture of any products/services outside of prison

    - end drug war; except that which involves border and coastal security and drug interdiction

    - totally secure border and coasts using any and all options including military

    - make illegal entry a very serious crime; with death to repeat offenders

    - legalize citizens killing drug dealers in their communities as an extension of self defense

    - end almost all social welfare to the young and employable

    - stop all trade and all other normal contact with China


    I could keep going if you want
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    Someone explain why private prisons are a problem to me. Not trying to argue, just legit trying to understand. I admit when I hear "private" and "for profit" prisons it immediately makes me think WTF? But I guess I don't understand it.

    The prisons themselves aren't the judges/juries... they just house the person after a conviction. So it's not like they're locking people up who the government hasn't decided needed to be locked up. Absolutely nothing the government runs is as efficient as a private counterpart would be. If it's cheaper and more efficient for the federal government to allow private companies run the prisons, why shouldn't they?
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    Originally Posted by JimFromRaleigh1 View Post
    Damn, I guess that means Trump will make less money since he cannot get kick backs from these private prisons.
    The only impact this will have on Trump is it will reduce the options of where he will serve his time.
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post


    - make illegal entry a very serious enough crime; with death to repeat offenders
    You want to execute people for trying to have a better life? You’re a suck f*ck.
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    Originally Posted by babyshark99 View Post
    You want to execute people for trying to have a better life? You’re a suck f*ck.
    You're confused.

    I didn't say execute someone for trying to have a better life. I said for those who repeat illegal entry and it was implied to mean also in conjunction with my other measures listed there which would mean that anyone doing so given those conditions would -NOT- be someone 'trying to have a better life'

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    So instead of the government paying money for a company to run the prison, they’ll stop paying the company, hire the people who worked there and pay them as state or federal employees, and then things pretty much go on as usual, right? Or am I missing something?
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    a piece of good news in a bleak pond of chit

    The US has by far the world's largest prison population -and- the highest incarceration rate.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rate



    a rational plan to fix what's wrong with America:

    - end all private prisons

    - end all labor of prisoners for the manufacture of any products/services outside of prison

    - end drug war; except that which involves border and coastal security and drug interdiction

    - totally secure border and coasts using any and all options including military

    - make illegal entry a very serious enough crime; with death to repeat offenders

    - legalize citizens killing drug dealers in their communities as an extension of self defense

    - end almost all social welfare to the young and employable

    - stop all trade and all other normal contact with China


    I could keep going if you want
    I agree with most of this no question. However, having civilians kill drug dealers is absolutely unconstitutional, a terrible idea for many reasons and simply will never happen. I would meet you halfway with a couple things, but for the most part, absolutely.

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    Someone explain why private prisons are a problem to me. Not trying to argue, just legit trying to understand. I admit when I hear "private" and "for profit" prisons it immediately makes me think WTF? But I guess I don't understand it.

    The prisons themselves aren't the judges/juries... they just house the person after a conviction. So it's not like they're locking people up who the government hasn't decided needed to be locked up. Absolutely nothing the government runs is as efficient as a private counterpart would be. If it's cheaper and more efficient for the federal government to allow private companies run the prisons, why shouldn't they?
    The prisons actually do have the authority to act as judges and juries to an extent. They issue disciplinary infractions, which once adjudicated by themselves leads to added time for the prisoners. Since their pay is based on the number of prisoners they have, this creates an incentive for them to go crazy with these infractions, which they do.

    Also, the contract with government states that if the prison population doesn’t meet some percentage of is max population, the government has to pay them extra. Not only does this create incentive for the government to put people in prison, it has lead to some states having to pay millions of dollars to the prisons when the quotas were not met. There are literally quotas for these prisons.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    I agree with most of this no question. However, having civilians kill drug dealers is absolutely unconstitutional, a terrible idea for many reasons and simply will never happen. I would meet you halfway with a couple things, but for the most part, absolutely.



    The prisons actually do have the authority to act as judges and juries to an extent. They issue disciplinary infractions, which once adjudicated by themselves leads to added time for the prisoners. Since their pay is based on the number of prisoners they have, this creates an incentive foe them to go crazy with these infractions, which they do.

    Also, the contract with government states that if the prison population doesn’t meet some percentage of is max population, the government has to pay them extra. Not only does this create incentive for the government to put people in prison, it has lead to some states having to pay millions of dollars to the prisons when the quotas were not met. There are literally quotas for these prisons.
    Interesting. Thanks! I guess I knew about the first part, but didn't even think about the potential ramifications of it. Didn't know about the second part though. Definitely seems like a major issue.
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    The prisons themselves aren't the judges/juries... they just house the person after a conviction. So it's not like they're locking people up who the government hasn't decided needed to be locked up. Absolutely nothing the government runs is as efficient as a private counterpart would be. If it's cheaper and more efficient for the federal government to allow private companies run the prisons, why shouldn't they?
    Here's where it gets off track. The people who make money off of the prisons don't just sit back and let things happen however they are going to happen. Its like any other business that lobbies government so they can either gain an advantage in the market or make more money. So people who have a stake in making money from the prisons are lobbying government to change laws and sentencing guidelines to increase the prison population and increase how long people stay in the prison system. That's part of the rub.
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    Interesting. Thanks! I guess I knew about the first part, but didn't even think about the potential ramifications of it. Didn't know about the second part though. Definitely seems like a major issue.
    Yeah. I know a lot of people on here would take the stance along the lines of “can’t do the time, do do the crime”, or simply try to dehumanize criminals referring to them as trash or whatever. I’m a little more empathetic, but one thing I really try to keep in mind is that most of these people are not murderers and rapers. A lot of them are in there for drug offenses or other equally less consequential crimes. Drug laws are being relaxed everywhere, and I simply don’t think their crimes warrant them getting caught up in a system that sells them back and forth again and again so people can make money off it.
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    OP, you do realize that Biden's Drug War and 94 Crime bill are the main reason prisons got filled up, yes?

    As for skirting private prison, this would be more about moving them to public prisons. I do feel Biden's admin will be softer on crime, but not in the ways we hope. Some people belong in prison, and other in mental institutes. We don't want a society where people can rob & steal and face zero consequence.
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    OP, you do realize that Biden's Drug War and 94 Crime bill are the main reason prisons got filled up, yes?

    As for skirting private prison, this would be more about moving them to public prisons. I do feel Biden's admin will be softer on crime, but not in the ways we hope. Some people belong in prison, and other in mental institutes. We don't want a society where people can rob & steal and face zero consequence.
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    Without much knowledge on the subject, my first question is...

    Somebody name me one industry government runs something better than private companies?
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    So instead of the government paying money for a company to run the prison, they’ll stop paying the company, hire the people who worked there and pay them as state or federal employees, and then things pretty much go on as usual, right? Or am I missing something?
    Yes, decades long retirements/permanent disability, we get to pick up the tab for. I know this is anecdotal, but almost every prison guard Ive met at gyms Ive frequented over the years are close to being the strongest guys there.....while collecting permanent disability checks every month.

    That said, admittedly Im not well read/informed on the subject.
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    The way dems and progressives view the prison system is a start but still heavily flawed. They seriously think it's the 2nd coming of slavery. Last I checked...slaves in early America weren't born free and then put into slavery only after committing crimes.

    So because of that, any action they take is likely to be misguided and ineffective, and exploit the minority card as per usual. I.e. - it won't fix chit and could likely fuk things up worse.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    So instead of the government paying money for a company to run the prison, they’ll stop paying the company, hire the people who worked there and pay them as state or federal employees, and then things pretty much go on as usual, right? Or am I missing something?
    Pretty much this. There is nothing wrong with Private Prisons or Private Police Forces. It's just that these institutions challenge the State's Monopoly on dishing out abuse and punishment and hence they must be ended.

    All that's gonna happen is that A. The government is gonna have to dish out millions and even billions to the owner of said Prisons in order to compensate them, B. The shareholders of said private prisons will lose money and C. The people will have to pay more because Federal and State employees tend to get paid more and they tend to slack off more. However, the private prisons complex has been a useful boogeyman for the left for over a decade now. It usually stems from a lack of knowledge on how prison works. These prisons offer more services then just "slave labor". They offer educational courses, rehabilitation and psychological assistance to those who need it. But because they challenge the State's monopoly they must go.

    Plus these companies are simply gonna redirect their efforts abroad. People have this warped idea that the USA is the only place with private prisons. They'll simply take those billions in compensation money and invest elsewhere.
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    This. I support it.

    Unfortunately, I highly doubt this will happen. But I will be pleasantly surprised if this does.
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    Here's where it gets off track. The people who make money off of the prisons don't just sit back and let things happen however they are going to happen. Its like any other business that lobbies government so they can either gain an advantage in the market or make more money. So people who have a stake in making money from the prisons are lobbying government to change laws and sentencing guidelines to increase the prison population and increase how long people stay in the prison system. That's part of the rub.
    Yeah, that was on of my initial thoughts too. Was maybe the prisons have some strong lobbying and they successfully advocate for harsher sentencing.

    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Yeah. I know a lot of people on here would take the stance along the lines of “can’t do the time, do do the crime”, or simply try to dehumanize criminals referring to them as trash or whatever. I’m a little more empathetic, but one thing I really try to keep in mind is that most of these people are not murderers and rapers. A lot of them are in there for drug offenses or other equally less consequential crimes. Drug laws are being relaxed everywhere, and I simply don’t think their crimes warrant them getting caught up in a system that sells them back and forth again and again so people can make money off it.
    I'm the same way. There's a lot of people locked up for victimless crimes. The whole thing likely needs an overhaul, but I guess the private prisons thing is a good part to focus on (as were the reforms made under Trumps).
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    Someone explain why private prisons are a problem to me. Not trying to argue, just legit trying to understand. I admit when I hear "private" and "for profit" prisons it immediately makes me think WTF? But I guess I don't understand it.

    The prisons themselves aren't the judges/juries... they just house the person after a conviction. So it's not like they're locking people up who the government hasn't decided needed to be locked up. Absolutely nothing the government runs is as efficient as a private counterpart would be. If it's cheaper and more efficient for the federal government to allow private companies run the prisons, why shouldn't they?
    There have been proven cases where judges give prison sentences instead of community service for petty crimes. They get kick backs in some forms from the for profit prisons for doing this.
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    this does need to be done but private prisons are all over the place, you cant close all of them and the second part is how do you go about doing it, the gov has contracts and you cant just shut it down without paying them out

    they could not renew the contracts and it will be a long term thing
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    I’m just a dumb fuk

    But I think the issue with privatized prisons is that their main goal is “surviving” and keeping corrections officers employed. So in order for that to happen, they gotta “keep this machine” going so they’ll push for harsher sentences or new laws that’ll help keep the prisons filled so the machine keeps running.
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    sounds good from my limited knowledge on the subject
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Just saw it on a CNN vidjya, sorry no link. I guess they released a copy of his schedule for next week and this was on there. Of course we will see how it unfolds.

    I feel like this will be a yuge win for our CJ system. People should not be a resource sold for financial gain under contract. I am ashamed and disappointed it ever happened in the first place. While hopeful, I am maintaining expectation management though. I’m not familiar with the numbers, but I don’t think these contract companies a super huge/financially secure, so I don’t think their lobbying will come into play at all. I might look more into it later today.

    I’m hopeful.
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