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    What's the end-game of the anti-police agenda?

    I watched some guy talk about jaques attali's predictions and he talked about how they will get rid of police and the court system, for mercenaries and arbiters or something along these lines.
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    Cause as much chaos as possible?
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    No, that's false. It has nothing to do with doing that. It's simply a methodical attack on all previous societal, government, and economic systems as a revolution towards a totally new system. That same attack on police was done on all previous Marxist type revolutions prior.

    It's a small part of the overall Marxist tactics and 4th and 5th gen warfare tactics being used towards the Great Reset ... with the end goal being totalitarian government modeled after China's. They wanna make the whole world like China - with its protected rich class, large companies, but most importantly a wholly owned and controlled slave labor class like China has.

    You and I and most everyone else here will become what is in effect labor slaves if they succeed.
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    Originally Posted by rjthegreat10 View Post
    Cause as much chaos as possible?
    yep

    Controlled opposition. Infiltrate and Subvert. Divide and Conquer. Destroy and Rebuild. Ordo ab chao. Solve et Coagula


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    This is how communists take power OP. They remove the ability of the state to defend itself and enforce its own laws, then they seize the mechanisms of state power themselves, then they send in the jackboots.

    It's happened the exact same way every single time, and if Americans can't see that happening or are too unaware of history to understand that, then I guess they deserve the woke revolution that is brewing.

    Looking at Joe Biden and his administration of phaggots, I get strong flashes of Nikolai II and his floundering incompetence while the Bolsheviks took over the State Duma and fomented his downfall.
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    Originally Posted by TomWanks View Post
    This is how communists take power OP. They remove the ability of the state to defend itself and enforce its own laws, then they seize the mechanisms of state power themselves, then they send in the jackboots.

    It's happened the exact same way every single time, and if Americans can't see that happening or are too unaware of history to understand that, then I guess they deserve the woke revolution that is brewing.

    Looking at Joe Biden and his administration of phaggots, I get strong flashes of Nikolai II and his floundering incompetence while the Bolsheviks took over the State Duma and fomented his downfall.

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    exactly what they're doing now

    Trump is a part of it though, which is the kicker that most people don't realize


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    Install new gestapo, SS, and Stasi and get rid of the old police.

    Police support law and order, and they tend to vote republican, and follow the constitution so they are the enemy of the far left.
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    At work right now can you give me some cliffs of all that?
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    Originally Posted by rjthegreat10 View Post
    At work right now can you give me some cliffs of all that?
    not very easily because it's a large amount of info

    cliffs:

    The Great Reset active transition (2020-2030) is here

    It will transform us to a totalitarian state like China's

    George Soros, the World Economic Forum, Biden-Harris and many beside them, the CCP, and a great many others are involved in it as a secret society thing

    There are a great many damning red flags against Trump showing he is an active part of it, including but not limited to confirmed links to Soros, and also allowing his supporters to get F'd by the Qanon psyop against them
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    Originally Posted by WABeast View Post
    Install new gestapo, SS, and Stasi and get rid of the old police.

    Police support law and order, and they tend to vote republican, and follow the constitution so they are the enemy of the far left.
    no thats more government. i think its just going to all go private. academi police essentially, but in 50 years time
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    Freedom to rape, loot, kill and everything else that normal people don't want in their society. It's only going to get more dangerous here and you're a retard if you still don't own a gun SRS. Stay safe brahs because they want crime to skyrocket and you can see it's already happening in many cities.
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    Lol there's no "end".

    Low intelligence people are more susceptible to influence/manipulation. There are near one million active police in the US (believe it's about 800,000), and the US has a gigantic population of over 350 million citizens. Most of those citizens have a smart phone with a HD camera on them at all times, and that means anytime a police/citizen interaction goes bad, it's likely to be recorded.

    There are about 60 million police interactions annually in the US, and over 10 million of those include arrests (you can easily verify this via Google).

    With those staggeringly high numbers, naturally, there will be tons of incidents gone bad and caught on camera. You simply can't avoid the human condition. Take near one million people of any population (doctors, those with PHDs, engineers, scientists) and put them in dangerous situations daily dealing with the most dangerous population, and there will naturally be bad actors. This isn't to dismiss serious issues of bad policing, it's just to bring reality to the situation.

    So what happens when a bad interaction is caught on camera? Well, given the culture in the US, it spreads like a wildfire, and those people with an agenda to push will share it to further "their side" of the agenda.

    Humans aren't used to seeing so much video, humans didn't evolve to understand huge number and have the internet. We evolved to survive in villages/populations of maybe 1,000, give or take. It's the same reason you can see a hot girl (or guy if you're into that) on your phone's screen and get turned on. Your mind doesn't realize that the person isn't right in front of you. Some part of our basic mind sees it, and processes it as near us. These people see violence and their basic mind sets off alarms, protect the tribe, speak up, stop the bad person doing bad thing. So when we're exposed to uncalled for violence even if it's from police, our internal alarm goes off, as humans are a social species. We attempt to stamp out the violence, for the better of the village. It takes a higher intelligence to understand we're seeing videos from hundreds/thousands of miles away, and it's one video in a population of 350,000,000 people. Most people can't imagine 100,000, let alone 350 million. It takes some level of intelligence to be able to recognize this doesn't represent danger in your tribe.






    Not all humans have that intelligence, so the internet has led to some population (say the least intelligent 20% of the population) to constantly be in freak-out mode. It makes sense, it's sad, but they can't help it. Those humans see "danger in my tribe" and get loud. They get loud on outlets they have, the internet.


    These constant videos and constant loud people lead to a brainwashing of more than the lower 20%, now the bottom 50% are seeing videos and on top of that, they're hearing complaints constantly (from the 20%, rough numbers but you get the idea) perpetuating this idea that police are bad because they've seen 5 examples just this month.


    So now and even larger population is somehow convinced there's "danger in their tribe" and police are just bad, because of the combination of the lower 20% intelligence, along with the narrative being pushed in our face online. Humans also are so social that we tend to side with whatever we hear the most, so this voice naturally makes itself louder and louder.

    In reality, in 2019 (latest stats we have) about 23 unarmed black men died by police via police interaction. That means that less than one in one million of interactions between police and a black unarmed man result in their death. About half of those were actively fighting the police (trying to get their gun, etc), so it's more like less than 1 in 2,000,000 interactions result in it.

    Some people simply don't get it. It's incredibly, incredibly, incredibly rare.




    It's simply the internet causing this issue. There's no master plan or any intelligent "plan" that will work. Humans will either finally learn to stop appeasing the 20%, and finally understand on a larger scale that the internet shows us the worst of everything often, or we'll continue to get more divided.


    We're alive in a weird stage of human evolution. Although, I think there's a little bit of hope. Eventually, society will realize that due to the internet/humans constantly being exposed to anything, we simply have to deal with ~20% of society always being enraged.

    Once we do, we'll ignore a lot of their ignorant rhetoric. When we do, the rhetoric will actually slow down leading towards less anger from the extreme crowd. This will eventually happen, or some sort of war/conflict will break out repeatedly until we get it right. I think we'll get it right before war, but we all have to realize this is what's causing the crazy crowd to be so loud.
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    From what I've read, many Democrats that want to defund the police want to find new ways to police an area. That is the end goal. Often brought up is the use of social workers being used more often instead of police. Of course the problem with defunding the police, and using this money elsewhere is that crime has increased greatly as a result, harming the innocents.

    There are other ways to address the cause of high rates of crime in a city. One way frequently brought up is that large portions of inner city kids in Democrat run cities, where most violent crime occurs happens to those that do not have fathers. Kids without fathers to help guide a child are more likely to join violent gangs.

    Another problem is failing inner city schools. Often inner city schools are not teaching kids the basics skills needed to make a living in regular society. Basically high schools are issuing fake degrees. Politicians like it. It makes them look good to have more students graduate. As an example:

    "Rising HS graduation rates are yet another bogus de Blasio ‘achievement’"

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/18/rising...o-achievement/

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    Progressive Cities and Black Education


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    A recent report by Chris Stewart has shed new light on some of the educational problems faced by black youth. The report is titled “The Secret Shame: How America’s Most Progressive Cities Betray Their Commitment to Educational Opportunity for All.” Stewart is a self-described liberal and CEO of Brightbeam, a nonprofit network of education activists who want to hold progressive political leaders accountable.

    The report asks, “So how do we explain outstandingly poor educational results for minority children in San Francisco — which also happens to be one of the wealthiest cities in the country?” “The Secret Shame” reports that progressive cities, on average, have black/white achievement gaps in math and reading that are 15 and 13 percentage points higher than in conservative cities. For example, in San Francisco, 70% of white students are proficient in math; for black students it’s 12% — a 58-point gap. In Washington, D.C., 83% of white students scored proficient in reading compared to 23% of black students — a 60-point gap.

    Yet, three of the 12 conservative cities researchers looked at — Virginia Beach, Anaheim and Fort Worth — have effectively closed or even erased the gap in at least one of the academic categories studied, achieving a gap of zero or one. “The politically conservative Oklahoma City has even turned the tables on our typical thinking about race-based gaps,” says Stewart. Black students in Oklahoma City even have higher high school graduation rates than white students.

    Had the “Secret Shame” study analyzed other cities, it would have found that educational outcomes for most black youngsters is a national disgrace. As of 2016, in Philadelphia, only 19% of eighth-graders scored proficient in math, and 16% were proficient in reading. In Detroit, only 4% of its eighth-graders scored proficient in math, and 7% were proficient in reading. In 2016, in 13 of Baltimore’s 39 high schools, not a single student scored proficient on the state’s math exam. In six other high schools, only 1% tested proficient in math. Only 15% of Baltimore students passed the state’s English test......
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    Lol there's no "end".

    Low intelligence people are more susceptible to influence/manipulation. There are near one million active police in the US (believe it's about 800,000), and the US has a gigantic population of over 350 million citizens. Most of those citizens have a smart phone with a HD camera on them at all times, and that means anytime a police/citizen interaction goes bad, it's likely to be recorded.

    There are about 60 million police interactions annually in the US, and over 10 million of those include arrests (you can easily verify this via Google).

    With those staggeringly high numbers, naturally, there will be tons of incidents gone bad and caught on camera. You simply can't avoid the human condition. Take near one million people of any population (doctors, those with PHDs, engineers, scientists) and put them in dangerous situations daily dealing with the most dangerous population, and there will naturally be bad actors. This isn't to dismiss serious issues of bad policing, it's just to bring reality to the situation.

    So what happens when a bad interaction is caught on camera? Well, given the culture in the US, it spreads like a wildfire, and those people with an agenda to push will share it to further "their side" of the agenda.

    Humans aren't used to seeing so much video, humans didn't evolve to understand huge number and have the internet. We evolved to survive in villages/populations of maybe 1,000, give or take. It's the same reason you can see a hot girl (or guy if you're into that) on your phone's screen and get turned on. Your mind doesn't realize that the person isn't right in front of you. Some part of our basic mind sees it, and processes it as near us. These people see violence and their basic mind sets off alarms, protect the tribe, speak up, stop the bad person doing bad thing. So when we're exposed to uncalled for violence even if it's from police, our internal alarm goes off, as humans are a social species. We attempt to stamp out the violence, for the better of the village. It takes a higher intelligence to understand we're seeing videos from hundreds/thousands of miles away, and it's one video in a population of 350,000,000 people. Most people can't imagine 100,000, let alone 350 million. It takes some level of intelligence to be able to recognize this doesn't represent danger in your tribe.






    Not all humans have that intelligence, so the internet has led to some population (say the least intelligent 20% of the population) to constantly be in freak-out mode. It makes sense, it's sad, but they can't help it. Those humans see "danger in my tribe" and get loud. They get loud on outlets they have, the internet.


    These constant videos and constant loud people lead to a brainwashing of more than the lower 20%, now the bottom 50% are seeing videos and on top of that, they're hearing complaints constantly (from the 20%, rough numbers but you get the idea) perpetuating this idea that police are bad because they've seen 5 examples just this month.


    So now and even larger population is somehow convinced there's "danger in their tribe" and police are just bad, because of the combination of the lower 20% intelligence, along with the narrative being pushed in our face online. Humans also are so social that we tend to side with whatever we hear the most, so this voice naturally makes itself louder and louder.

    In reality, in 2019 (latest stats we have) about 23 unarmed black men died by police via police interaction. That means that less than one in one million of interactions between police and a black unarmed man result in their death. About half of those were actively fighting the police (trying to get their gun, etc), so it's more like less than 1 in 2,000,000 interactions result in it.

    Some people simply don't get it. It's incredibly, incredibly, incredibly rare.




    It's simply the internet causing this issue. There's no master plan or any intelligent "plan" that will work. Humans will either finally learn to stop appeasing the 20%, and finally understand on a larger scale that the internet shows us the worst of everything often, or we'll continue to get more divided.


    We're alive in a weird stage of human evolution. Although, I think there's a little bit of hope. Eventually, society will realize that due to the internet/humans constantly being exposed to anything, we simply have to deal with ~20% of society always being enraged.

    Once we do, we'll ignore a lot of their ignorant rhetoric. When we do, the rhetoric will actually slow down leading towards less anger from the extreme crowd. This will eventually happen, or some sort of war/conflict will break out repeatedly until we get it right. I think we'll get it right before war, but we all have to realize this is what's causing the crazy crowd to be so loud.
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    Great post. There's really no turning back and that's going to destroy us SRS.
    Nah, I don't completely think so. Humans won't go as far as actual war over this, at least I think chances are greater that we don't go to that extent. I think we'll continue to see what we've seen the last ~8 years (ridiculous over reactions to real issues), riots that destroy parts of cities, etc. I don't think we'll actually go to war over this stuff. Humans are changing, and changing fast, because of technology. We don't know how to deal with it yet. Remember, we are the FIRST generation with internet. Internet is the biggest change in life on earth, ever, by a big margin. We're literally generation #1 with internet and we're learning how to handle it.

    I think with more time, we'll come to realize that again, some population is always just loud and annoying, and we will become a bit more dismissive of them. That's a littler dangerous, because there actually are issues that need resolving, but I think they will be.

    I basically guess that over time, the energy and rage over what we see will get more boring and less new, and more normal, therefore there will be less of the ridiculous over-reaction we see today.


    That being said, I think the good outcome I'm hoping for is going to require logical people to speak up online more and more often. Don't buy into conspiracy theories, don't be too insulting, don't type in all caps, speak well, type well, and do a better job of typing more. Typing more as in giving some real, sincere thought to why you're saying what you're saying, and why you think they should reconsider their position.



    As much as we don't like it, each one of us has a responsibility to try to do this and be a voice of reason in this madness. Be calm and articulate, acknowledge real issues, and explain to them why their reaction is an over reaction, it's the only way to combat it. Do it for our future generations.
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    This is how communists take power OP. They remove the ability of the state to defend itself and enforce its own laws, then they seize the mechanisms of state power themselves, then they send in the jackboots.

    It's happened the exact same way every single time, and if Americans can't see that happening or are too unaware of history to understand that, then I guess they deserve the woke revolution that is brewing.

    Looking at Joe Biden and his administration of phaggots, I get strong flashes of Nikolai II and his floundering incompetence while the Bolsheviks took over the State Duma and fomented his downfall.
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    Lol there's no "end".

    Low intelligence people are more susceptible to influence/manipulation. There are near one million active police in the US (believe it's about 800,000), and the US has a gigantic population of over 350 million citizens. Most of those citizens have a smart phone with a HD camera on them at all times, and that means anytime a police/citizen interaction goes bad, it's likely to be recorded.

    There are about 60 million police interactions annually in the US, and over 10 million of those include arrests (you can easily verify this via Google).

    With those staggeringly high numbers, naturally, there will be tons of incidents gone bad and caught on camera. You simply can't avoid the human condition. Take near one million people of any population (doctors, those with PHDs, engineers, scientists) and put them in dangerous situations daily dealing with the most dangerous population, and there will naturally be bad actors. This isn't to dismiss serious issues of bad policing, it's just to bring reality to the situation.

    So what happens when a bad interaction is caught on camera? Well, given the culture in the US, it spreads like a wildfire, and those people with an agenda to push will share it to further "their side" of the agenda.

    Humans aren't used to seeing so much video, humans didn't evolve to understand huge number and have the internet. We evolved to survive in villages/populations of maybe 1,000, give or take. It's the same reason you can see a hot girl (or guy if you're into that) on your phone's screen and get turned on. Your mind doesn't realize that the person isn't right in front of you. Some part of our basic mind sees it, and processes it as near us. These people see violence and their basic mind sets off alarms, protect the tribe, speak up, stop the bad person doing bad thing. So when we're exposed to uncalled for violence even if it's from police, our internal alarm goes off, as humans are a social species. We attempt to stamp out the violence, for the better of the village. It takes a higher intelligence to understand we're seeing videos from hundreds/thousands of miles away, and it's one video in a population of 350,000,000 people. Most people can't imagine 100,000, let alone 350 million. It takes some level of intelligence to be able to recognize this doesn't represent danger in your tribe.






    Not all humans have that intelligence, so the internet has led to some population (say the least intelligent 20% of the population) to constantly be in freak-out mode. It makes sense, it's sad, but they can't help it. Those humans see "danger in my tribe" and get loud. They get loud on outlets they have, the internet.


    These constant videos and constant loud people lead to a brainwashing of more than the lower 20%, now the bottom 50% are seeing videos and on top of that, they're hearing complaints constantly (from the 20%, rough numbers but you get the idea) perpetuating this idea that police are bad because they've seen 5 examples just this month.


    So now and even larger population is somehow convinced there's "danger in their tribe" and police are just bad, because of the combination of the lower 20% intelligence, along with the narrative being pushed in our face online. Humans also are so social that we tend to side with whatever we hear the most, so this voice naturally makes itself louder and louder.

    In reality, in 2019 (latest stats we have) about 23 unarmed black men died by police via police interaction. That means that less than one in one million of interactions between police and a black unarmed man result in their death. About half of those were actively fighting the police (trying to get their gun, etc), so it's more like less than 1 in 2,000,000 interactions result in it.

    Some people simply don't get it. It's incredibly, incredibly, incredibly rare.




    It's simply the internet causing this issue. There's no master plan or any intelligent "plan" that will work. Humans will either finally learn to stop appeasing the 20%, and finally understand on a larger scale that the internet shows us the worst of everything often, or we'll continue to get more divided.


    We're alive in a weird stage of human evolution. Although, I think there's a little bit of hope. Eventually, society will realize that due to the internet/humans constantly being exposed to anything, we simply have to deal with ~20% of society always being enraged.

    Once we do, we'll ignore a lot of their ignorant rhetoric. When we do, the rhetoric will actually slow down leading towards less anger from the extreme crowd. This will eventually happen, or some sort of war/conflict will break out repeatedly until we get it right. I think we'll get it right before war, but we all have to realize this is what's causing the crazy crowd to be so loud.

    Amazing post to outline the thought processes involved, but I’d say there is an end goal. They want to get rid of state and local police so that they can have a national police force. This has already been revealed through leaked memos of the Open Society Foundations. So yes, there is an end goal, but you did an amazing job of outlining the propaganda they use to push their initiative(s).
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    Amazing post to outline the thought processes involved, but I’d say there is an end goal. They want to get rid of state and local police so that they can have a national police force. This has already been revealed through leaked memos of the Open Society Foundations. So yes, there is an end goal, but you did an amazing job of outlining the propaganda they use to push their initiative(s).
    Some of them might have a goal, it's more chaotic than anything.

    Another factor is that often times, these anti police people are people that don't do well in hierarchies. They see this as their opportunity to remove hierarchies. Hierarchies exist basically in all forms of life for social animals, it's completely normal. It exists because evolution prefers a hierarchy, it's basically a social status/ladder. The reason it exists is because social animals that develop a hierarchy have less struggle over resources, they survive better. All social animals have a hierarchy, including humans.

    Of course, less intelligent people don't understand that too and they think it's unfair that a hierarchy exists. They think this, because they don't do well on the social ladder... why? Because they aren't intelligent enough to.

    So, people who don't do well in a hierarchy won't do well in life. They don't earn as much money, they aren't as good with friends, it's just a harder life.


    They see this recent political movement/chaos as an opportunity to try to knock the top guys/girls off of the ladder, giving them a better chance at survival. If they can create more chaos, they stand more of a chance not to be as much of a bottom feeder. That's why you usually see less intelligent people loudly in favor of more government support, it benefits them personally. Less intelligent people are more loud because they're less socially aware of how they look. Intelligence often means the ability to see yourself from the outside, they don't have that, so they have less inhibitions/less ability to restrict themselves. That's why they're so loud.


    So anyway, I think those are the psychological elements behind all this madness. Not all of it, but a big contributing factor.
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    Nah, I don't completely think so. Humans won't go as far as actual war over this, at least I think chances are greater that we don't go to that extent. I think we'll continue to see what we've seen the last ~8 years (ridiculous over reactions to real issues), riots that destroy parts of cities, etc. I don't think we'll actually go to war over this stuff. Humans are changing, and changing fast, because of technology. We don't know how to deal with it yet. Remember, we are the FIRST generation with internet. Internet is the biggest change in life on earth, ever, by a big margin. We're literally generation #1 with internet and we're learning how to handle it.

    I think with more time, we'll come to realize that again, some population is always just loud and annoying, and we will become a bit more dismissive of them. That's a littler dangerous, because there actually are issues that need resolving, but I think they will be.

    I basically guess that over time, the energy and rage over what we see will get more boring and less new, and more normal, therefore there will be less of the ridiculous over-reaction we see today.


    That being said, I think the good outcome I'm hoping for is going to require logical people to speak up online more and more often. Don't buy into conspiracy theories, don't be too insulting, don't type in all caps, speak well, type well, and do a better job of typing more. Typing more as in giving some real, sincere thought to why you're saying what you're saying, and why you think they should reconsider their position.



    As much as we don't like it, each one of us has a responsibility to try to do this and be a voice of reason in this madness. Be calm and articulate, acknowledge real issues, and explain to them why their reaction is an over reaction, it's the only way to combat it. Do it for our future generations.
    To build off of this, the fact is that people are grossly susceptible to manipulation. Our society is predicated upon the idea of producers vs consumers. Almost everything is intended to separate you from your money by any means possible. Enslaving us to debt to make us essentially indentured servants allows society to function under an elite class.

    While this IS Marxist rhetoric it’s fundamentally true—-however the glaring problem of Marxism is that the ideas proposed to stop this are not a solution, we will always have a hierarchical system and will to power where Machiavellian people prosper. A lot of leftists are good at pointing out problems, their issue is that their solutions make things worse.

    Because everything is essentially a scam to convince you to think one way or another, the biggest enemy of society are marketers and the media with very rare exceptions. The human mind conserves energy as much as possible through simplification so we can function on autopilot to conserve energy. This is Danny Kahneman’s system 1 versus system 2, 1 being simplified autopilot and 2 being exerting conscious effort to vet an idea with logic. The purpose of marketing is to keep your brain in system 1, particularly through the use of repetition, because the simplified brain will accept the familiar even if it is illogical. As long as something is repeated enough and you don’t think of it, you can accept anything as true.

    So, essentially we do function as NPCs which is fortunate for people who want to control us one way or another. You can argue whether this is just for political power or a Great Reset conspiracy or whatever, but the end result is a very malleable populace.

    For instance, I keep seeing the news talking about how white supremacy is the greatest threat to this nation. And what was the “climax” of this great threat? A couple thousand out of 380+ million people had a relatively non-violent occupation of Congress. My buddy was talking to me about how embarrassing this is to me—-I actually find it amazing that such an infinitesimal fraction of the population was involved here all things considered. The news greatly inflates the scale of these things to put people into a fear state where they are easily malleable, addicting them to the screen so media companies can get viewers.

    The media actually seems rather desperate nowadays because televised news is becoming less and less relevant. So they terrify you about someone in your county getting kidnapped, even though it’s a one in a million thing. System 1 does not take the time to logically process how irrelevant these events are, so they shove images of that one person in a million dying or a few thousand protestors to make it immediately real to you, even though it’s really nothing.

    It is glaringly obvious there is an establishment triumvirate between the media, politicians, and corporations to maintain a status quo with them in the spotlight. They try to mask this behind tribalism like Democrat vs republican, black va white, anything to distract you from the fact you are living in the Matrix, plugged into a system they’ve created to feed off of your energy/work. Their use of master suppression and manipulation techniques is glaringly obvious if you know what to look for. Why do you think our schools don’t teach us logic and rhetoric and critical thinking instead of rote memorization and following the “American dream” of grossly overpriced college and a family to provide for?

    Tl;dr: the media and politicians and marketers are our enemy and their number one priority is ensuring we remain docile consumers they can spoonfeed talking points
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    What's the end-game of the anti-police agenda?
    Its not really an anti-police agenda. They just want to piss real cops off to the point that all of them quit so they can replace them with SJW cops that will mirror their agenda.
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    Originally Posted by 3fifty View Post
    Some of them might have a goal, it's more chaotic than anything.

    Another factor is that often times, these anti police people are people that don't do well in hierarchies. They see this as their opportunity to remove hierarchies. Hierarchies exist basically in all forms of life for social animals, it's completely normal. It exists because evolution prefers a hierarchy, it's basically a social status/ladder. The reason it exists is because social animals that develop a hierarchy have less struggle over resources, they survive better. All social animals have a hierarchy, including humans.

    Of course, less intelligent people don't understand that too and they think it's unfair that a hierarchy exists. They think this, because they don't do well on the social ladder... why? Because they aren't intelligent enough to.

    So, people who don't do well in a hierarchy won't do well in life. They don't earn as much money, they aren't as good with friends, it's just a harder life.


    They see this recent political movement/chaos as an opportunity to try to knock the top guys/girls off of the ladder, giving them a better chance at survival. If they can create more chaos, they stand more of a chance not to be as much of a bottom feeder. That's why you usually see less intelligent people loudly in favor of more government support, it benefits them personally. Less intelligent people are more loud because they're less socially aware of how they look. Intelligence often means the ability to see yourself from the outside, they don't have that, so they have less inhibitions/less ability to restrict themselves. That's why they're so loud.


    So anyway, I think those are the psychological elements behind all this madness. Not all of it, but a big contributing factor.

    It appears chaotic and obviously is on some levels, but the movement is also very organized. BLM is not really organic, and the Open Society Foundation poured a ton of resources into getting it off the ground and continues its agenda. If very influential people didn’t want these things to happen they wouldn’t happen. And it is known that the foundation wants a federally centralized approach to policing. That takes away the local representations like elected sheriffs in towns and state control and shifts the system towards one in which there is a central arm controlling every officer around the country. This makes it easier to implement authoritarian measures that come down the pipe, whatever those may be.
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    Originally Posted by Autumnal View Post
    To build off of this, the fact is that people are grossly susceptible to manipulation. Our society is predicated upon the idea of producers vs consumers. Almost everything is intended to separate you from your money by any means possible. Enslaving us to debt to make us essentially indentured servants allows society to function under an elite class.

    While this IS Marxist rhetoric it’s fundamentally true—-however the glaring problem of Marxism is that the ideas proposed to stop this are not a solution, we will always have a hierarchical system and will to power where Machiavellian people prosper. A lot of leftists are good at pointing out problems, their issue is that their solutions make things worse.

    Because everything is essentially a scam to convince you to think one way or another, the biggest enemy of society are marketers and the media with very rare exceptions. The human mind conserves energy as much as possible through simplification so we can function on autopilot to conserve energy. This is Danny Kahneman’s system 1 versus system 2, 1 being simplified autopilot and 2 being exerting conscious effort to vet an idea with logic. The purpose of marketing is to keep your brain in system 1, particularly through the use of repetition, because the simplified brain will accept the familiar even if it is illogical. As long as something is repeated enough and you don’t think of it, you can accept anything as true.

    So, essentially we do function as NPCs which is fortunate for people who want to control us one way or another. You can argue whether this is just for political power or a Great Reset conspiracy or whatever, but the end result is a very malleable populace.

    For instance, I keep seeing the news talking about how white supremacy is the greatest threat to this nation. And what was the “climax” of this great threat? A couple thousand out of 380+ million people had a relatively non-violent occupation of Congress. My buddy was talking to me about how embarrassing this is to me—-I actually find it amazing that such an infinitesimal fraction of the population was involved here all things considered. The news greatly inflates the scale of these things to put people into a fear state where they are easily malleable, addicting them to the screen so media companies can get viewers.

    The media actually seems rather desperate nowadays because televised news is becoming less and less relevant. So they terrify you about someone in your county getting kidnapped, even though it’s a one in a million thing. System 1 does not take the time to logically process how irrelevant these events are, so they shove images of that one person in a million dying or a few thousand protestors to make it immediately real to you, even though it’s really nothing.

    It is glaringly obvious there is an establishment triumvirate between the media, politicians, and corporations to maintain a status quo with them in the spotlight. They try to mask this behind tribalism like Democrat vs republican, black va white, anything to distract you from the fact you are living in the Matrix, plugged into a system they’ve created to feed off of your energy/work. Their use of master suppression and manipulation techniques is glaringly obvious if you know what to look for. Why do you think our schools don’t teach us logic and rhetoric and critical thinking instead of rote memorization and following the “American dream” of grossly overpriced college and a family to provide for?

    Tl;dr: the media and politicians and marketers are our enemy and their number one priority is ensuring we remain docile consumers they can spoonfeed talking points

    This is very, very well said and written. Gjdm, didn't expect as I was reading to be impressed like that. The only part I don't necessarily agree with is the smaller bolded part, I don't tend to think it's a widespread conspiracy to keep us blinded. 90% of everything you said is very well said and scientifically accurate, I just think that it's more of a natural phenomenon and subconscious action on part of leaders than it is a plot to keep us tricked. I wouldn't say we're living in any kind of slave based Matrix (I mean, I actually can get on board with simulation discussions but that's another topic) I think the way humans are living is pretty upscale, and natural. We're all just following our innate evolutionary desire for attention and resources. All of us want resources to provide the best chance at reproduction, all of us want attention and social approval because as social animals, attention and social approval means more resources. Your tribe is more likely to save your ass when they like you.




    The last thing I'll point out is that humans have a natural tendency to exaggerate their hardships. Think about it, most movies and books, almost all the stories we hear is a human overcoming a hardship, towards a better end. We're obsessed with it.

    The reason being? Take two people. Person A reached milestone level 100, starting from zero. That means, they advanced 100 levels. Person B is also at level 100, but they started from level negative 10, so that person actually leveled 110 levels.

    Naturally, you're going to see person B as stronger, wittier, and more capable. Therefore, you're going to want to provide the stronger person more resources.

    It's natural for humans to exaggerate our hardships because that benefits us. This is human nature, all humans do it. I think this is yet another reason you frequently see groups of people exaggerate hardships these days, it's a borderline subconscious effort to make yourself seem better and superior to your peers.



    Yet again, most people don't realize this and just buy into anything they hear. Not to suggest some people don't have more hardships than others, but to suggest that whatever the reality level is, you can bet your life it's exaggerated because it's as natural and beneficial to us as anything humans do.
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    I work with an old woman who defected from Cuba. She said this country strongly resembles what she remembers before they went down the pooper
    People underestimate the ability of a population to be brainwashed into bad ideas, they think all that is in the past. That's why they're ok with their own double standards, like accepting social media's suppression of voices simply because they don't fit the preference of the employees. That's absolutely a dangerous path.
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    It will end like CHAZ. No laws until the strongest phaggot steps in with his crew and creates the next laws. I remember the security that took over in the chaz by that rapper. Doing everything they claimed the local coos were doing and worse
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    Replace the current police departments with a new police force that will enforce the policies of the ruling party, the Democrats.
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