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    Lagging lower/mid lats?

    Hello,

    I've been doing a 5 day push/pull/legs/upper/legs split for the last couple months and noticed some major strength and size improvements (granted I wouldn't yet describe myself as an intermediate lifter). I typically do pull ups (wide grip, shoulder-width grip and neutral grip chins), one-arm dumbbell rows and shrugs as my major pull lifts. I'm wondering if my lower and/or mid lats are lagging, or if I'm just nitpicking? The "hourglass" between my waist and upper lats is pretty demoralizing. Is this something a cut in a few months will fix, or are there any particular exercises I should be mixing in?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Further to that, if there are any other glaring weaknesses with my plan and/or back physique, I'd welcome some constructive criticism and recommendations.
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    You didn't give any info on your PPLUL so there's not much to comment on, other than your lower/mid lats being be similar in development to your overall physique.
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    Heavy squats bro!
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    You didn't give any info on your PPLUL so there's not much to comment on, other than your lower/mid lats being be similar in development to your overall physique.
    Ah right, I can't link it here but I'll copy + paste from my older post:
    Monday - Chest/shoulders
    - Decline bench
    - Incline bench
    - Dumbbell press
    - Heavy bag work
    Tuesday - Legs
    - Low bar squat
    - Lunges
    - Calf raises
    - Running
    Wednesday - Back
    - Pullups
    - Dumbbell row
    - Shrugs
    - Curls
    Thursday - REST
    Friday - Legs
    - High bar squat
    - Stiff leg deadlift
    - Sprints/running
    Saturday - Upper body
    - Flat bench
    - Dumbbell row
    - Close grip chin-ups
    - Dumbbell press
    - Heavy bag work
    Sunday - REST
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    Nothing is lagging buddy.

    You just don't have enough mass in general YET to have big wings.

    You just need to serve more with the iron and the size will come..

    Keep going mate! Great base, great start!
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    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    Nothing is lagging buddy.

    You just don't have enough mass in general YET to have big wings.

    You just need to serve more with the iron and the size will come..

    Keep going mate! Great base, great start!
    Appreciate the feedback bud, thanks!
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    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    Nothing is lagging buddy.

    You just don't have enough mass in general YET to have big wings.

    You just need to serve more with the iron and the size will come..

    Keep going mate! Great base, great start!
    Once again, this guy ^ is spot on
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    Doesn't look like an even flex if anything.
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    No offense TS, but 99% of the time when someone posts a "this muscle group is lagging, what can I do" is a guy who doesn't lag anything, but just doesn't have enough muscle mass yet. Extremely rarely is a muscular guy who really is lagging a body part.

    Do you believe your higher lats are big enough?

    I recommend this
    https://youtu.be/I7ZS5x9rdKE

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    Heavy squats bro!
    And heavy deadlifts bro!
    Say no to machines and cables!
    "Reminds me of the good ol' days back in 03-04 when ripptoes/5 by 5/hit/doggcrap reigned supreme and you did not need direct arm work for big biceps. Rows and chins were it. "Ever see a guy rowing 300+lbs with chicken arms?". Ah yes those were the days. God bless amusclehead and his twisted one dimensional views along with the rest of the former flock."
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