The carnivore diet is an all meat diet promoted by Dr Shawn Baker. It's basically a extreme ketogenic diet with about 70 percent fat and 30 percent protein by calories(approximately 1 gram of fat for 1 gram of protein). There are also a lot of anecdotes of this diet making people's health problems go away. In theory, is this diet the best diet for getting stronger and building lean muscle naturally? Shawn Baker himself is 250 lbs at 6'5, and he is fairly lean.
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01-20-2021, 05:19 AM #1
Is the carnivore diet great at building muscle?
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01-20-2021, 05:28 AM #2
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No, I am going to call confirmation bias on anecdotes. An overly restrictive diet is never going to be better than a mixed diet that doesn't have problems meeting all macro and micronutrient needs. IIRC you have to eat a load of organ meat just to avoid severe vitamin deficiencies. Seems silly when you could just have a couple of pieces of fruit.
If people have intolerances or problems with certain foods then they should systematically eliminate things until they find what the issue is - not just eliminate everything except meat. People aren't designed to be carnivores, our digestive tract is not like that of a pure carnivore.
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01-20-2021, 05:31 AM #3
I don't know why it would be any better than a balanced diet with protein and calories equal. Haven't seen any evidence to suggest it would either. There are also anecdotes, some of which get posted here, of people who's blood markers go to complete **** on carnivore. There is no best diet otherwise every single bodybuilder, athlete, strongman etc. would follow it.
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01-20-2021, 05:46 AM #4
1,000x this.
Imagine having to down your 8th serving of liver(and I like liver more than most) of the week instead of having 1-2 servings of pineapple. I do think people have more issues with more foods than they realize though, so a restrictive diet for a small amount of time could be a good way to reset the system and/or determine what types of intolerances a person has. I guess a carnivore diet would do the trick, but I’d say there are better ways to do it, like the AIP diet for one.+positive crew+
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01-20-2021, 03:01 PM #10
1. Have fun with gout
2. Have fun taking a chit with no fiber
3. You will get lack things like vitamin c
4. Most the people that make these insane diets don’t follow them
5. Most likely can cause cholesterol issues
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01-20-2021, 09:12 PM #15
Carnivore diet basically guarantees that you won’t be building muscle, because:
1) it practically ensures caloric deficit by increasing TDEE while making you feel full all the time
2) it ensures that you’re never insulinemic so your body doesn’t get any signal to grow tissues
It’s a great protocol for fat loss; it’s okay for muscle retention; it’s terrible for building lean tissue.
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