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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    Why can't you just leave it at " I agree with Malcolm " ?


    You don't know for sure what or why conservatives use that quote for, i am conservative and i'm not white, but i also don't hate white ppl for being white, that's stupid
    I've had arguments with Conservatives all over this website regarding Malcolms quotes and stance on Republicans vs Democrats. I never stated white either, you did. I stated prejudice and racism towards Black America from that party.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    I've had arguments with Conservatives all over this website regarding Malcolms quotes and stance on Republicans vs Democrats. I never stated white either, you did. I stated prejudice and racism towards Black America from that party.

    IMO Trump is more like Malcolm than MLK , he speaks w/o a filter and says what he wants just like Malcolm did.

    If Malcolm were alive today and ran for president saying the things he said in the 60's i think the left would treat him the same way.


    The left don't care about color, only about keeping their control.

    If Trump was black he would be treated the exact same way , they would rather " feel good " than be told the truth.


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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    IMO Trump is more like Malcolm than MLK , he speaks w/o a filter and says what he wants just like Malcolm did.

    If Malcolm were alive today and ran for president saying the things he said in the 60's i think the left would treat him the same way.


    The left don't care about color, only about keeping their control.

    If Trump was black he would be treated the exact same way , they would rather " feel good " than be told the truth.


    Once you trade feelings for logic you see the world in a different light
    Malcolm was oppressed the majority of his life.. Him and Trump are nothing alike, and even comparing the 2 is a disservice to the way that Malcolm lived his life.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Malcolm was oppressed the majority of his life.. Him and Trump are nothing alike, and even comparing the 2 is a disservice to the way that Malcolm lived his life.
    So let me get this straight, both men had their own experiences coming up, both men felt that they didn't GAF about who liked them or not, both of them made public statements politically and said whatever was on their mind, and even though Malcolm was oppressed he still said what he felt and didn't care who agreed or disagreed , doesn't that sound kinda like trump even in the least?


    if you remove color, remove the oppressed what did these 2 individuals have that caused them to not GAF and say what was on their mind?
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    So who is responsible for fixing that? Sounds like a cultural issue to me.
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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    So let me get this straight, both men had their own experiences coming up, both men felt that they didn't GAF about who liked them or not, both of them made public statements politically and said whatever was on their mind, and even though Malcolm was oppressed he still said what he felt and didn't care who agreed or disagreed , doesn't that sound kinda like trump even in the least?


    if you remove color, remove the oppressed what did these 2 individuals have that caused them to not GAF and say what was on their mind?
    One was treated differently, and not given the same rights because the color of his skin. The other grew up in the most elite class you can grow up in this country. Malcolm X was fighting for a cause that's end goal was to stop the discrimination of entire demographic. Until recently, Trump was an elite celebrity who bumped elbows with Hollywood and has always looked out only for himself and his own self interest. They are nothing alike.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    I agree with Malcolm for sure.. however Conservatives are using this quote as some sort of "See Malcolm supported us!!"... nah he didn't like either of you, he just recognized that Republicans are blatant with their racism and prejudice towards Black America and it still carries over to today.
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    Originally Posted by gluon View Post
    whats worse a rattlesnake that rattles or one that lays silent
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    One was treated differently, and not given the same rights because the color of his skin. The other grew up in the most elite class you can grow up in this country. Malcolm X was fighting for a cause that's end goal was to stop the discrimination of entire demographic. Until recently, Trump was an elite celebrity who bumped elbows with Hollywood and has always looked out only for himself and his own self interest. They are nothing alike.


    And the same people that used to call him brother turned on him for speaking the truth and ended up smoking him for it .


    Listen homeboy i am not white or black i am neutral so that gives me the ability to look at things from both sides , any time, whether you are black, white, yellow or brown and speak the truth ppl get uncomfortable, the truth is a hard pill to swallow and most ppl would rather " feel good " rather than be called out on their bull$hit, they are like rats when you corner them.


    Same 5hit happened to Malcolm then that is happening to Trump today , i would have loved to have Malcolm be alive today spitting truth.


    But since truth is now considered a racist trait...here we are








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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Both if I get bit
    lol the answer is obvious, you are just being obtuse. ill spell it out for you, its the one that lays silent, you have no warning and cant avoid it, unlike the one that rattles so you can easily stay clear.
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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    And the same people that used to call him brother turned on him for speaking the truth and ended up smoking him for it .


    Listen homeboy i am not white or black i am neutral so that gives me the ability to look at things from both sides , any time, whether you are black, white, yellow or brown and speak the truth ppl get uncomfortable, the truth is a hard pill to swallow and most ppl would rather " feel good " rather than be called out on their bull$hit, they are like rats when you corner them.


    Same 5hit happened to Malcolm then that is happening to Trump today , i would have loved to have Malcolm be alive today spitting truth.


    But since truth is now considered a racist trait...here we are
    Lol does saying "homeboy" make you think your connecting to a minority or something? Care to explain when Trump has ever tried to spread the "truth" message at even remotely the same level that X has? Even then Malcolm had changed his stance on issues throughout his life, and he was killed for changing his stances. Has Trump ever been able to reflect on his own stances and have the courage to go against a movement he helped promote?

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    lol the answer is obvious, you are just being obtuse. ill spell it out for you, its the one that lays silent, you have no warning and cant avoid it, unlike the one that rattles and you can easily stay clear.
    If you get bit, it won't matter to you how it came about.. You still gotta go to the hospital either way (to continue your analogy).. Also are you advocating that blacks and minorities don't vote for Republicans because they are deadly, but at least they let you know they are deadly and dangerous?
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Lol does saying "homeboy" make you think your connecting to a minority or something? Care to explain when Trump has ever tried to spread the "truth" message at even remotely the same level that X has? Even then Malcolm had changed his stance on issues throughout his life, and he was killed for changing his stances. Has Trump ever been able to reflect on his own stances and have the courage to go against a movement he helped promote?



    If you get bit, it won't matter to you how it came about.. You still gotta go to the hospital either way (to continue your analogy).. Also are you advocating that blacks and minorities don't vote for Republicans because they are deadly, but at least they let you know they are deadly and dangerous?



    jakes on you , i AM a minority, unless being Mexican doesn't count as minority, which i can see happening since ppl like you consider ppl like Candace Owens as a white supremacist lol


    your umbrella now considers ideas of freedom as " white supremacy " and actual oppression as " freedom " and we wonder why the rest of the world laughs at us


    We laugh at US over the same 5hit


    the Democratic party fights for equal rights while promoting racist undertones and inner city oppression and ppl like you who are too blind to see what they are doing defend their platform.


    i honestly feel bad for you ( dead srs ) because you will never see reality for what it is, and once you do you will be on your death bed wishing you would have had more time to maker a difference.


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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    jakes on you , i AM a minority, unless being Mexican doesn't count as minority, which i can see happening since ppl like you consider ppl like Candace Owens as a white supremacist lol

    your umbrella now considers ideas of freedom as " white supremacy " and actual oppression as " freedom " and we wonder why the rest of the world laughs at us

    We laugh at US over the same 5hit

    the Democratic party fights for equal rights while promoting racist undertones and inner city oppression and ppl like you who are too blind to see what they are doing defend their platform.

    i honestly feel bad for you ( dead srs ) because you will never see reality for what it is, and once you do you will be on your death bed wishing you would have had more time to maker a difference.

    Sorry papi your time to shine is now not in 50 years
    Who is "people like you" lol. I've made my opinions of Candace known, you seem to have jumped to conclusions on my thoughts of her and are uninformed but that's not all together surprising when I'm communicating with someone who is trying to say that Malcolm X and Trump are similar in their stances in history. Where have I stated anything in regards to "white supremecy".... are you having a hypothetical argument with random people that aren't involved in this back and forth..... it's starting to seem like it. I can leave you to randomly argue with this people who aren't present ITT
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    /b]Who is "people like you"[/b] lol. I've made my opinions of Candace known, you seem to have jumped to conclusions on my thoughts of her and are uninformed but that's not all together surprising when I'm communicating with someone who is trying to say that Malcolm X and Trump are similar in their stances in history. Where have I stated anything in regards to "white supremecy".... are you having a hypothetical argument with random people that aren't involved in this back and forth..... it's starting to seem like it. I can leave you to randomly argue with this people who aren't present ITT

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    Is it her white side or black side that's causing her to have that faux valley girl accent?

    Also who gave her that fivehead.

    Imagine being such a tragic mullato that you have to pander on Twitter/Tiktok for white acceptance. Where's this girl's parents?
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    You're projecting. Guess she's not "black" enough for you. SMH
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    I agree with Malcolm for sure.. however Conservatives are using this quote as some sort of "See Malcolm supported us!!"... nah he didn't like either of you, he just recognized that Republicans are blatant with their racism and prejudice towards Black America and it still carries over to today.
    Please stop speaking for black people.... you aren't part of the club.
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    Please stop speaking for black people.... you aren't part of the club.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Oh chit... the gatekeeper of blackness!! Can't believe I found you on a gay alt right forum, been looking everywhere for you. Got some people I want to pass through you, I'll PM you
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    There's plenty of those groups as well. There also have been Latino, Asian American/Pacific Islander Appreciation Months on Hulu/Netflix and other places.

    Haven't you heard the whole 'Latinx' identify coming in the forefront?

    Also in terms of Democats/Liberals I KNOW that Blacks are in the background. They're trying to get the Latino vote.

    She could have made the same video anywhere else or a simple comment but we know the GenZ folks are on TikTok for clout. You're being obtuse by not acknowledging that.



    LOL'd

    She should also recognize that White Women benefit from Affirmative Action the most. Affirmative Action is supposed to help minorities, women, the disabled AND veterans the conservatives all claim to love but I can tell she is just parroting talking points that are not of her own original thought.
    This clown still here trying to peddle this bs?

    It’s also hilarious watching the perpetual victim crew get mad & question someone’s blackness when they step outside the slave mentality.
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    Originally Posted by Jayzuz View Post
    This clown still here trying to peddle this bs?

    It’s also hilarious watching the perpetual victim crew get mad & question someone’s blackness when they step outside the slave mentality.
    We've talked about this before. Women are seen as a protected class. White women have successfully hijacked the feminist and "woke movement" for themselves so they get seen as victims.

    Also when these conservative sock puppets talk about Affirmative Action they always fail to disregard the fact that AA is designed to help other groups and they act as though Blacks are the sole benefactors of it.

    Obama's administration has passed laws for immigrants and LGBTQ and the Democrat's outreach for this election since 2018 was going after the Latino vote. I know Democrats don't care about us.

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    To her point of "If you want to know who's in power think about who you can't criticize." the right answer is LGBTQ and Jewish people so I know she's being intellectually dishonest even though she thought she was trying to be "smart" by constructing a rhetorical question.
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    Originally Posted by sword_ View Post
    We've talked about this before. Women are seen as a protected class. White women have successfully hijacked the feminist and "woke movement" for themselves so they get seen as victims.

    Also when these conservative sock puppets talk about Affirmative Action they always fail to disregard the fact that AA is designed to help other groups and they act as though Blacks are the sole benefactors of it.

    Obama's administration has passed laws for immigrants and LGBTQ and the Democrat's outreach for this election since 2018 was going after the Latino vote. I know Democrats don't care about us.
    We have talked about it before, & we disagree on the conclusion of these “studies” that you hold as gospel because they completely ignore that white women are better educated than all these other “victim” groups that they’re supposedly taking positions from in the workplace.

    Regardless of who you think the biggest benefactor is, skin color shouldn’t play a part all. You always like to gloss over the whole college admission thing all the time too.

    I’m sure you also believe in white privilege, so can you tell me all these systemic practices in place to specifically benefit whites?
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    She has a point, but she's also forgetting the reason those policies and actions were put forth (the inequity and systemic racism in the country). Granted, chit has gone a bit overboard.

    It's sad though that getting people to agree racism is bad is like pulling teeth. If we could stop worrying about race, that would be great. But that goes out the window as long as there is systemic racism in our criminal justice system and such a huge difference in the environment and upbringing of a black child vs a white one.
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    Look - we don't ask for these commercials with an interracial couple or SJW shows nor do we have the creative control for it so it's not us. You realize it's white leftists trying to give us empty gestures to say they're with us, etc. It's much easier to do than try to elicit change.

    I have conservative ideas when it comes to economics but I am extremely skeptical when I see some biracial/nearly white passing person(Hodgetwins too) talking down to Black people and parroting white talking points to a white audience.

    BTW I respect Black conservatives like Maj Toure (Black Libertarian - met him too), Thomas Sowell, and Colion Noir so I know that we are not monolithic in thought but there's different ways on going about it. Even Tariq Nasheed gives smoke to Dems all the time.

    I also criticized the BLM video today of a Black chick twerking in front of the capital today so I am critical of both sides.
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    We have talked about it before, & we disagree on the conclusion of these “studies” that you hold as gospel because they completely ignore that white women are better educated than all these other “victim” groups that they’re supposedly taking positions from in the workplace.

    Regardless of who you think the biggest benefactor is, skin color shouldn’t play a part all. You always like to gloss over the whole college admission thing all the time too.

    I’m sure you also believe in white privilege, so can you tell me all these systemic practices in place to specifically benefit whites?
    You can disagree all you want but Black people in droves are not benefitting from Affirmative Action no matter how much you and the young girl believes in the video. I don't know if you work in a lucrative field but I hardly see the results in my industry despite them trying to do Diversity & Inclusion efforts.

    We make this joke on the MISC all the time about women getting liberal arts degrees and still making low pay. Women are outpacing men by far in terms of formal education - still that doesn't mean they are getting paid equally as men because many choose non-lucrative careers. Women's Studies, Communications, Sociology are not "better education" LMAO that's why they are still whining about the "gender pay gap"

    It also isn't 'skin color' that is used in affirmative action and you're being a complete obtuse phaggot if that's all you got from Affirmative Action addressing minority inequality by ethnicity. Just like the Immigration Act of 1965 ethnic whites were prioritized in attaining citizenship in this country. If you were any other color you had a hard time or you didn't gain entry until this act due to the de facto discrimination of the National Origins Formula.

    Affirmative Action was designed to amend discrimination amongst a number of classes and being that race issues is American as Apple Pie of course racial discrimination would be addressed.

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    You're conflating conservative talking points with white talking points...
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    Has no one considered that she is doing this for clout
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