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    - min wage doesnt work as intended, full stop

    - BUT if youre going to do it, atleast let the states decide it. No reason min wage should be the same in NYC and Montana, that is fuking stupid and will just cause huge cost increases in those rural areas.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    You get paid $16 an hour. Min wage is $7.25. You think your wage is going to go up $7.75 just because the govt decided to give a pay raise to high schoolers? No. Your employer will probably give you a buck more an hour if that, depends on how many other workers got a govt raise that they gotta account for now....
    The store I worked at from ‘96-‘01 did just that when the minimum wage went up multiple times in that 5 years......granted, the increase wasn’t that much each time or in total, but they did. Sadly, they were acquired by a vulture capital company after I moved on and that ended up all but killing them.
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Most people wouldn't last 5 seconds working at McDonald's. The kitchen is greasy and smelly, you have impatient Karens and Kens demanding their chit. Probably the second hardest job behind working in a nursing home. Not a huge surprise that both jobs have worker shortages.
    This, I’ve seen people that couldn’t hack it in the customer service call center I work for now, let alone at the retailers I’ve worked for in the past, no way in hell could they handle fast food on the other side of the counter.
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    Originally Posted by sr7914 View Post
    If you went to school to learn a trade and you're only making $16/hour that's a problem. That's roughly $28k/year. Still poverty. That's what Trump tier people are really worried about. Some highschool bag boy making almost as much as they do. If you're making $16/hour maybe get yourself out of poverty before worrying about and chiting on someone that makes less than you.
    I'm making $28 as a warehouse picker lol. Stop making it personal and start debating the point, if you can.
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Lmao $600/month apartment. Good one.

    We have tried the neoliberal approach for the last 40 years. It doesn't work.
    They exist. The fact that you are ignorant to the fact that there are many different economic regions disqualifies you from discussing further.
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    Minimum wage should be negative. Fast food workers for example should pay for the privilege of getting valuable work experience.
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    Originally Posted by DoctorJihad View Post
    Minimum wage should be negative. Fast food workers for example should pay for the privilege of getting valuable work experience.

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    Libs are the actual fascists. This should decided at that state level. Ridiculous abuse of federal power.
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    It should have been raised along the lines of cost of living, yearly. Now it’s being dumped on businesses all at once lol.
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Most people wouldn't last 5 seconds working at McDonald's. The kitchen is greasy and smelly, you have impatient Karens and Kens demanding their chit. Probably the second hardest job behind working in a nursing home. Not a huge surprise that both jobs have worker shortages.
    Mcdonalds and nursing home employees have the hardest jobs? U cannot be serious lmao.
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    Originally Posted by Olympia2018 View Post
    What the fuk are you talking about? Do you understand how a business even works? Go read my above comment you dumbass

    You want to get paid more? Don’t fukn apply at a minimum wage job! You need more skills then playing video games on a computer sometimes to get paid more than minimum wage you fool
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    A big issue here is the absolutely disgusting, and seemingly unimaginable cooperate greed. How much of a profit margin do you think McD’s would lose if they increased their workers wages to 15/hour, without making any other changes?

    I do understand that this same concept does not apply to small businesses and mom/pop shops though. Is that where we are going to see the biggest loss of employment you think?

    Instinctively, I feel this is more of a state/local issue as the economy varies pretty significantly across the US.
    It should be a local issue. If people want a higher minimum wage then vote for a governor that will mandate that. It seems like Americans have the same issue as Canadians where they dont pay any attention to local elections and want everything done at a federal level. Federal government shouldnt really be dealing with local issues. The only logic I can see is if one state raises the minimum wage and the states around them dont they could possibly lose people to that state. But really people arent gonna be moving for a slightly higher minimum wage job. If that becomes an issue then they can also raise their minimum wage to become competitive. Maybe someone else has a better idea why the federal government should get involved but it doesnt make sense to me.
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    Is it an instant bump to $15/hr? I know with bernies plan it was "up to" $15/hr over the course of 10 years.
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    Good, if you can't pay a higher min wage then you shouldnt be in business
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    Small businesses are dying, so raise corp taxes and wages to cripple them further.

    So, the 1 Million+ jobs lost IMO is a low figure.

    Dems are anti-business, but raising the minimum wage looks good politically. The jobs lost will be blamed on Trump somehow.
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    Originally Posted by tbonestake View Post
    People say this everywhere there is a wage increase but it doesn’t happen. It’s right wing big government rhetoric.

    Imagine being such a cuck that you would be against getting paid more to keep your employer happy. You brahs must love getting bottomed out too.
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Most people wouldn't last 5 seconds working at McDonald's. The kitchen is greasy and smelly, you have impatient Karens and Kens demanding their chit. Probably the second hardest job behind working in a nursing home. Not a huge surprise that both jobs have worker shortages.
    they have shortages because many Americans, mostly democrats are lazy and feel those jobs are beneath them. they feel they are entitled to better jobs.
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    Originally Posted by randombrah102 View Post
    Good, if you can't pay a higher min wage then you shouldnt be in business
    why not just raise it to 100$ an hour then? if they can't pay it then they shouldn't' be in business, right? you fking moron
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    Originally Posted by randombrah102 View Post
    Good, if you can't pay a higher min wage then you shouldnt be in business
    This argument sounds good until you carry the logic out more, why not 20 or 30 or 40?

    Exactly, you're an idiot.
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    Originally Posted by AWillis View Post
    why not just raise it to 100$ an hour then? if they can't pay it then they shouldn't' be in business, right? you fking moron
    Obviously not $100. I think the idea is that the minimum wage should at least be proportionate to inflation and the cost of living. Remember, 40+ years ago you could pay a monthly mortgage and raise a family on minimum wage.
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    Originally Posted by JonnyB1106 View Post
    tbonestake is a certified low-IQ shill. He couldn’t even comprehend your comment above if he actually took the time to read it.
    What am I shilling? Reread this thread then do your own research on the effects of wage increase. Negged btw.
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    Obviously not $100. I think the idea is that the minimum wage should at least be proportionate to inflation and the cost of living. Remember, 40+ years ago you could pay a monthly mortgage and raise a family on minimum wage.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Obviously not $100. I think the idea is that the minimum wage should at least be proportionate to inflation and the cost of living. Remember, 40+ years ago you could pay a monthly mortgage and raise a family on minimum wage.
    40 years ago there wasn't anywhere near as many women in the workforce and America wasn't flooded with low IQ illegals and delusional low IQ people with humanities degrees who refuse to take a job outside of their field lol.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Obviously not $100. I think the idea is that the minimum wage should at least be proportionate to inflation and the cost of living. Remember, 40+ years ago you could pay a monthly mortgage and raise a family on minimum wage.
    yes, Trump answered this.

    he said it has to be looked at state by state basis. but the autistic dems think that is unfair.

    you can't just do it on a national level.

    why not just up it to 100$. they pluck 15 out of their asses. if the business can't cope, than that is their problem, right? that is what the prick above wrote
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    Originally Posted by pondus_levo View Post
    Said no one ever.
    Its sad that it sounds so fantastical to you that you don't believe it was ever possible.

    My grandfather raised my dad and 3 siblings working minimum wage in a food cannery and my grandmother stayed at home to take care of the house. That was in the mid 60s-mid 70s.
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    mcdonalds already pays minimum wage everywhere but the US

    imagine demanding to be cucked by your corporate overlords jfl


    i think minimum wage should have an exception aka be a bit less but enough for the employees to survive for small business

    i have ran small and medium sized businesses all my adult life, if you cannot afford to pay $12-15 wages than your business is not gonna survive either way, timer for some new ideas
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    I would imagine that servers, and all others that receive tips, would not fall under the $15/hr requirement. They would receive a base rate + average tips that would equal that of $15/hr at a minimum.
    Casino cocktail waitresses make at least 200+ dollars per shift on tips here
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    Originally Posted by AWillis View Post
    they have shortages because many Americans, mostly democrats are lazy and feel those jobs are beneath them. they feel they are entitled to better jobs.
    You can't even pay rent if you work at McDonald's, basically anywhere in the country. There's no way that's good for the country. May as well be homeless and not work at McDonald's. Same outcome.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Its sad that it sounds so fantastical to you that you don't believe it was ever possible.

    My grandfather raised my dad and 3 siblings working minimum wage in a food cannery and my grandmother stayed at home to take care of the house. That was in the mid 60s-mid 70s.
    I wonder if there's any correlation between that and corporations bringing over millions of low skill workers?
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