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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    So because something bad happens to you, you can do it to other people? That's how we should work?
    According to renowned defense attorney and Harvard law professor Alan M. Dershowitz, "abuse excuses" are enabling people to get away with murder—literally. From the Menendez brothers to Lorena Bobbitt, more and more Americans accused of violent crimes are admitting to the charges, but arguing that they shouldn't be held legally responsible. The reason: they're victims—of an abusive parent, a violent spouse, a traumatic experience, ethnic hatred, society at large, or anything else—who struck back at a real or perceived oppressor. And they couldn't help themselves, they say. In this provocative and important collection of essays, Dershowitz reviews a wide range of recent cases—including those of O. J. Simpson, Tonya Harding, and Woody Allen—and argues that the current vogue in victim defenses is antithetical to the ideals of our constitutional democracy. For Dershowitz, the foundations of American society are individual responsibility and the rule of law. And people who claim to be above the law—whatever the excuse—are no more than vigilantes.

    The Abuse Excuse: And Other Cop-outs, Sob Stories, and Evasions of Responsibility
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    Originally Posted by GordonXXX View Post
    The Abuse Excuse: And Other Cop-outs, Sob Stories, and Evasions of Responsibility
    by Alan M. Dershowitz

    https://www.amazon.com/Abuse-Excuse-...dp/0316181021/
    Right? if the abused went after the abusers/enablers, I could totally see the argument. But the woman she murdered was murdered because Lisa thought she was expecting a baby but since she couldn't get pregnant, she decided to steal a baby. She lured the victim off the internet on the pretext of buying puppies, then brutally stabbed and strangled the victim.

    This wasn't a case of "My life sucked" this was straight up murder. Glad she got executed. I spit on her grave. One thing I did love about Trump was his hard line support of the death penalty/harsh punishments (though he kind of cucked on criminal justice reform).
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    Life behind bars with no possibility of parole should be the sentence.

    I will never condone the use of the death penalty. It's one of my biggest objections to the Republican Party. Even though I consider myself Republican.

    Killing is wrong. Period.
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    Originally Posted by Merovingian11 View Post
    Life behind bars with no possibility of parole should be the sentence.

    I will never condone the use of the death penalty. It's one of my biggest objections to the Republican Party. Even though I consider myself Republican.

    Killing is wrong. Period.
    There are some crimes that are so evil and so despicable and so reprehensible that the death penalty is the only punishment that can provide justice for the victims and society. This crime falls into that category.
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    Did Kim K and her friends not campaign for this poor victim of society who didn't do nothing wrong to be released??

    Googles her image.. oh ok then, carry on and execute.
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    Originally Posted by lightsarefallin View Post
    16 years on death row?

    There was this guy in western Canada who cut someone's head off on a Greyhound bus many years ago. He's released now. His lawyers made the case for criminal insanity. Not criminally responsible due to schizophrenia or something along those lines. Variations in legal defence is a hell of a thing.
    FUuu I remember when that happened. Poor dude was just sleepin on the bus and an insane guy hacks his head off with a machete. I remember accidentally stumbling across a photo of them wheeling his body off the bus... can still picture it 15 or so years later.
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    Trump administration carries out 13th and final execution
    MICHAEL KUNZELMAN and MICHAEL TARM
    Fri, January 15, 2021, 9:25 AM

    TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (AP) — The Trump administration early Saturday carried out its 13th federal execution since July, an unprecedented run that concluded just five days before the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden — an opponent of the federal death penalty.

    Dustin Higgs, convicted in the killings of three women in a Maryland wildlife refuge in 1996, was the third to receive a lethal injection this week at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana.

    President Donald Trump’s Justice Department resumed federal executions last year following a 17-year hiatus. No president in more than 120 years had overseen as many federal executions.

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    Originally Posted by GordonXXX View Post
    Trump administration carries out 13th and final execution
    MICHAEL KUNZELMAN and MICHAEL TARM
    Fri, January 15, 2021, 9:25 AM

    TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (AP) — The Trump administration early Saturday carried out its 13th federal execution since July, an unprecedented run that concluded just five days before the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden — an opponent of the federal death penalty.

    Dustin Higgs, convicted in the killings of three women in a Maryland wildlife refuge in 1996, was the third to receive a lethal injection this week at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana.

    President Donald Trump’s Justice Department resumed federal executions last year following a 17-year hiatus. No president in more than 120 years had overseen as many federal executions.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-convi...142505054.html
    They are screeching on twitter about this one

    Can you guess why the #woke mob wanted this kidnapper and murderer pardoned and didn't care about the the woman in the OP?

    https://twitter.com/CoriBush/status/...058288641?s=20
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    Originally Posted by Merovingian11 View Post
    Life behind bars with no possibility of parole should be the sentence.

    I will never condone the use of the death penalty. It's one of my biggest objections to the Republican Party. Even though I consider myself Republican.

    Killing is wrong. Period.
    Anyone who deals in absolutes like this is an idiot to me.

    This guy really said killing is wrong. No caveats or anything.
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    Originally Posted by Hutrapper View Post
    Incompetent for execution. Lol


    Don't worry, she doesn't have to do anything.

    Pretty sure she's capable of being strapped to a table
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    Originally Posted by Merovingian11 View Post
    Life behind bars with no possibility of parole should be the sentence.

    I will never condone the use of the death penalty. It's one of my biggest objections to the Republican Party. Even though I consider myself Republican.

    Killing is wrong. Period.
    What about euthanasia? Is that wrong
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    Last I read about this some phaggy judge had ordered it to be delayed at the last minute.

    The usual blue haired cretins were overcome with joy at the prospect of delaying her execution long enough for Biden to outlaw capital punishment.

    Big Dick Don had other plans.

    Hope this bish suffered as much as possible.
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    If they ban executions they should also ban abortions?

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    She deserved the death penalty but what she endured was unthinkable. Her father built a rape room in their house for when he wanted to bang her. Her mother sold her services in exchange for home repairs. No human deserves that. Obviously what she did was as bad if not worse but it shows why she was severely unbalanced.
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    Originally Posted by Narrator02 View Post
    She deserved the death penalty but what she endured was unthinkable. Her father built a rape room in their house for when he wanted to bang her. Her mother sold her services in exchange for home repairs. No human deserves that. Obviously what she did was as bad if not worse but it shows why she was severely unbalanced.
    Any evidence of this?

    Or is it just a story she concocted to garner sympathy and support?
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    In the words of Ron White

    "They're too crazy to know we are killing her....

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    Originally Posted by Merovingian11 View Post
    Life behind bars with no possibility of parole should be the sentence.

    I will never condone the use of the death penalty. It's one of my biggest objections to the Republican Party. Even though I consider myself Republican.

    Killing is wrong. Period.
    Phuck you. We spend billions taking care of people who don't deserve it in the slightest.

    Sure spend the rest of your life chillin with three hots and a cot and plenty to keep you entertained on the taxpayers dime.

    She GUTTED A WOMAN LIKE A FISH
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    Originally Posted by Narrator02 View Post
    She deserved the death penalty but what she endured was unthinkable. Her father built a rape room in their house for when he wanted to bang her. Her mother sold her services in exchange for home repairs. No human deserves that. Obviously what she did was as bad if not worse but it shows why she was severely unbalanced.
    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Any evidence of this?

    Or is it just a story she concocted to garner sympathy and support?
    I'd like to see evidence, if any, of this too. According to Wikipedia, her family refused to cooperate with her defense team

    According to The Guardian, Duchardt (Montgomery's defense attorney) attempted to follow this line of defense only one week before the trial began after being forced to abandon a contradictory argument that Stinnett was murdered by Montgomery's brother Tommy, who had an alibi. As a result, Montgomery's family refused to co-operate with Duchardt and described her background to the jury.[19]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...ial_and_ruling

    They were probably scared of incriminating themselves. But on the other hand, it sounds like her defense team was pigeon holed into an insanity defense a week before the trial.

    I'm not denying any of that happened to her, but I don't see any strong evidence supporting those claims either. Also, there are many people who have been abused as children who do not lure/murder a pregnant woman and cut out the baby, or commit violent crimes.

    There is absolutely zero chance she would have been rehabilitated in any capacity. IMO, it's more humane to put these people out of their misery than to keep them alive on the tax payer's dime

    Edit:

    According to this article her defense Attorney, Frederick Duchardt, has had more clients sentenced to death than any defense lawyer in America. jfc lol

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...o-keeps-losing
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