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    More leftists on this board should take an example from Bodhy and Jaydawg

    They are coming around to reason.....

    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    this was planned for months. They met with co-conspirators, rented cars and hotel rooms, they bought weapons, someone made that gallows...



    That's sedition and insurrection. Not getting caught up in the moment.
    I appreciate him agreeing it wasn’t suddenly incited by a Trump speech that morning.

    That false narrative is dangerous for this nation.

    More leftists should take an example of him conceding it wasn’t Trump's speech, rather a group of crazies planning ahead of time, followed by failed congressional security.

    There could be an argument weahter it was sedition and insurrection, but as bodhy stated- It was not sudden from a Trump speech that morning.




    Jaydawg went out of his way to make an entire thread pointing out some failures within the congressionally controlled capital police


    Now I would quote it here- but it seems to have been deleted- probably by the deep state.


    This is the deleted link for the ones that know how to read deleted threads:

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...9576993&page=1




    This is the kind of healing and unity our nation needs. Calling things for what they are- and stopping the blame shift to Trump.

    We don't need to be needlessly agitating millions of people, and possibly inciting real riots.
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    Right. It was incited by Trump for the last 4 years, ramped up by Trump a lot the over the last year, really ramped up over the last 2 months by Trump and his clowns, and mushroom-clouded by Trump, Giuliani, and Brooks on the 6th.
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    For weeks Trump literally called his supporters to DC and to be ready for something big or some such thing.

    To suggest that Trump bears no culpability is disingenuous at best.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    For weeks Trump literally called his supporters to DC and to be ready for something big or some such thing.

    To suggest that Trump bears no culpability is disingenuous at best.
    "Be there. It's going to be wild!"

    Heh, I wonder what he meant...
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    "Be there. It's going to be wild!"

    Heh, I wonder what he meant...
    I don't know. According to Trump fans, unless he specifically calls for people to be violent or to attack the capital he bears no responsibility.

    Luckily for us, our system of justice doesn't seem to have problems with inferences and indirect agitation.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    For weeks Trump literally called his supporters to DC and to be ready for something big or some such thing.
    ^^^ This

    As I stated ITT, it was an epic security failure of Congress (who controls the capital police and was in charge of security). It was a pre-announced, permitted demonstration to be the capital.

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...08201&page=261

    Why such a failure by congress?

    I think the most pivotal word that stood out to me was the sergeant of arms hesitant to use the national guard because of "optics"

    This is someone of a peak breaking point from a dangerous culture narrative slowly being escalated for the last year.

    Back in the day, we used to do a situation risk analysis, determine the need, and match the security forces for the need.

    When we thought it might be questionable- we always leaned on "overwhelming show of force"

    We've now entrapped ourselves into this partially false narrative that proper security is a bad thing.

    This BS has got to stop- especially for critical sensitive areas like the capital.

    I just posted a few examples in another thread yesterday about politicians using the phrase "fight", "let's fight", "go out and fight?", etc

    I was about to wallpaper it but got busy again. Everyone here knows what I mean though- getting bases excited politically, and use of therms "go fight for the cause " is common. "let's fight for social injustice".


    I watched Trump's speech live- it's just like the rest of his rallies. And the use of questionable unverified rhetoric is just what every politician does- heck Hillary was the queen of it. Suggestings proved untrue later, etc.

    To insinuate excitement for political causes should stop is dangerous- And it in no way was the problem here.


    Every crowd has crazies- this is why you have proper crowd control.

    Emergency support is designed for unexpected crowds- that wasn't the case in this one- they knew it would be big.



    The capital police chief assesses the risk- looked at would historically be the obvious actions and preparation needed, the insane SJW narrative took precedent - chaos ensued.



    And after the unfortunate situation occurred- rats raced to political capitalize on it.


    The adults and level headed people in the room need to call the BS what it is, then transition away quietly, and just move the F on.



    Great point sillie- well put about the advanced notice failed congressed failed to prepare for.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Right. It was incited by Trump for the last 4 years, ramped up by Trump a lot the over the last year, really ramped up over the last 2 months by Trump and his clowns, and mushroom-clouded by Trump, Giuliani, and Brooks on the 6th.
    Interesting- so you agree to the fact it wasn't by a speech that morning, as the media and congressional blame shift narrative says?


    I mean we could debate all the prior conduct you are suggesting, but I'm glad to see you also conceded it wasn't that morning's speech, instead it was security failure- and perhaps from what you describe congressional failure for not acting way sooner on this particular rhetoric.





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    I do agree that it was a massive failing of being ready for the crowd.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Interesting- so you agree to the fact it wasn't by a speech that morning, as the media and congressional blame shift narrative says?


    I mean we could debate all the prior conduct you are suggesting, but I'm glad to see you also conceded it wasn't that morning's speech, instead it was security failure- and perhaps from what you describe congressional failure for not acting way sooner on this particular rhetoric.
    I never said it was instead a security failure.

    Lol @ you cultists blaming security instead of the insurgents. The Trump cultist cops only made it worse.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Right. It was incited by Trump for the last 4 years, ramped up by Trump a lot the over the last year, really ramped up over the last 2 months by Trump and his clowns, and mushroom-clouded by Trump, Giuliani, and Brooks on the 6th.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I never said it was instead a security failure.

    Lol @ you cultists blaming security instead of the insurgents. The Trump cultist cops only made it worse.
    only low IQ leftists actually think this was some kind of insurrection.



    because all it takes to overthrow the U.S. government is a bunch of those hick trumpers you libs continuously call stupid, broke, and backwards.

    you really are one dumb fuk.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    only low IQ leftists actually think this was some kind of insurrection.

    because all it takes to overthrow the U.S. government is a bunch of those hick trumpers you libs continuously call stupid, broke, and backwards.

    you really are one dumb fuk.
    Just because cultists too incompetent to retain a job are also too incompetent to pull off a proper insurrection doesn't cease it from being what it was. Keep tipping the bottle back, though, son.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    They are coming around to reason.....



    I appreciate him agreeing it wasn’t suddenly incited by a Trump speech that morning.

    That false narrative is dangerous for this nation.

    More leftists should take an example of him conceding it wasn’t Trump's speech, rather a group of crazies planning ahead of time, followed by failed congressional security.

    There could be an argument weahter it was sedition and insurrection, but as bodhy stated- It was not sudden from a Trump speech that morning.




    Jaydawg went out of his way to make an entire thread pointing out some failures within the congressionally controlled capital police


    Now I would quote it here- but it seems to have been deleted- probably by the deep state.


    This is the deleted link for the ones that know how to read deleted threads:

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...9576993&page=1




    This is the kind of healing and unity our nation needs. Calling things for what they are- and stopping the blame shift to Trump.

    We don't need to be needlessly agitating millions of people, and possibly inciting real riots.
    I have to say.

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    just lol at libs who can't even operate a hand saw or hit a nail with a hammer who think building something like this takes months of preparation.



    yet the low IQ libs were REEEEEEEEEEEing at the time that the people who built that were taking over the government and continue to reeee about it.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Just because cultists too incompetent to retain a job are also too incompetent to pull off a proper insurrection doesn't cease it from being what it was. Keep tipping the bottle back, though, son.
    This is the average trumper according to you and libs the last 4 yrs.


    and yet you believed a handful of trumpers "storming" the capital building were going to take over the government?

    LOL!
    Yeah.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Interesting- so you agree to the fact it wasn't by a speech that morning, as the media and congressional blame shift narrative says?


    I mean we could debate all the prior conduct you are suggesting, but I'm glad to see you also conceded it wasn't that morning's speech, instead it was security failure- and perhaps from what you describe congressional failure for not acting way sooner on this particular rhetoric.
    It wasn't just this speech, it was the entire election fraud hoax that led up to it as well. This hoax had been going on for 9 weeks. He had been telling people the election that was being certified was a fraud and was stolen. That part of it is part of the incitement because that is why people were angry enough to stage a violent insurrection in the first place. This is addressed in the Article of Impeachment. It's not just the speech. His speech in a vacuum would not be enough to incite an insurrection, but in the context of the 9 week long hoax that had people believing that their election was stolen from them leading up to it was.

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    24 President Trump’s conduct on January 6, 2021, fol
    25 lowed his prior efforts to subvert and obstruct the certifi
    1 cation of the results of the 2020 Presidential election.
    2 Those prior efforts included a phone call on January 2,
    3 2021, during which President Trump urged the secretary
    4 of state of Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, to ‘‘find’’ enough
    5 votes to overturn the Georgia Presidential election results
    6 and threatened Secretary Raffensperger if he failed to do
    7 so.
    8 In all this, President Trump gravely endangered the
    9 security of the United States and its institutions of Gov
    10 ernment. He threatened the integrity of the democratic
    11 system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power,
    12 and imperiled a coequal branch of Government. He there
    13 by betrayed his trust as President, to the manifest injury
    14 of the people of the United States.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    This is the average trumper according to you and libs the last 4 yrs.
    [img]https://i.imgflip.com/3l86cc.jpg[img]

    and yet you believed a handful of trumpers "storming" the capital building were going to take over the government?

    LOL!
    Yeah.
    you are low IQ
    Nope, but them attempting to do so still makes it insurrection, derp.

    Here's your up-close look at trumpers: https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/...12406804025345
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Nope, but them attempting to do so still makes it insurrection, derp.

    Here's your up-close look at trumpers: https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/...12406804025345
    you believe insurrection was happening from trumpers who live in a trailer park and couldn't even nail a gallows together because CNN told you.

    I need more coffee to deal with someone as low IQ as you.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    you believe insurrection was happening from the trailer park by people who couldn't even nail a gallows together because CNN told you.

    I need more coffee to deal with someone as low IQ as you.
    Lol @ "if a person is incapable of successfully committing a crime, they never attempted to commit that crime."

    No end to the depths of your stupidity, son.
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    I've seen liberals try to do home improvement.

    It looks a lot like this.

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    My threads are never about one side vs another, but strictly about news happening around political events. The cops who are being suspended or arrested are having to answer for their own individual actions.

    Is Trump at fault for what happened? Yes, without a doubt he had a heavy hand in what took place.. but it's like blaming the coach or GM for a bad season. That's what happens when you're at the top.

    Is he criminally liable for what happened? I've changed my stance and no I don't think he will be
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    imagine how weak mentally you must be if you thought these were the people who would overthrow your government.



    I honestly cannot stop laughing at low IQ libs screeching insurrection.

    holy fuk.
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    So, it must have been Trumps fault for all the left's violence for 4 years. Lol, the double standards always provide a great laugh. Left= never wrong! Right=always wrong!

    Once again, we're all condemning the idiots at the capitol and leftists cant even agree.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    I've seen liberals try to do home improvement.

    It looks a lot like this.

    And leftists burn and lynch Trump effigies what's your point? Symbolism gonna symbolism.

    They also erected a crucifix were they planning on crucifying congressmen?
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    Yea, if you dissect the timeline on how it played out there was no way it was caused from his speech. It was planned in advance by a very few extremists. It is enjoyable watching the resident lefties back pedaling but it's too late now. The story has been told and the activist media has no interest in correcting anything if it doesnt help their cause.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Right. It was incited by Trump for the last 4 years, ramped up by Trump a lot the over the last year, really ramped up over the last 2 months by Trump and his clowns, and mushroom-clouded by Trump, Giuliani, and Brooks on the 6th.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    And leftists burn and lynch Trump effigies what's your point? Symbolism gonna symbolism.

    They also erected a crucifix were they planning on crucifying congressmen?
    liberal media hasn't thought of claiming crucification.
    Yet.
    I'm just making fun of ari/bodhy and other lib's dramatics over the "gallows" that quite literally could not be used to actually hang someone.

    I don't approve of the idiots who stormed into the capital building.
    but to actually claim it was an attempt to take over?
    anyone who genuinely believes that has a room temp IQ.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    My threads are never about one side vs another, but strictly about news happening around political events. The cops who are being suspended or arrested are having to answer for their own individual actions.

    Is Trump at fault for what happened? Yes, without a doubt he had a heavy hand in what took place.. but it's like blaming the coach or GM for a bad season. That's what happens when you're at the top.

    Is he criminally liable for what happened? I've changed my stance and no I don't think he will be
    No snark, but I appreciate the honesty of your points. Still disagree.
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