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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Yea, a popular vote where everyone's vote counts equally would really suck.

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    It will all even out but it's going to take 3-4 election cycles for politicians to realign values with the American public to be competitive with a popular vote. Democrats may move more pro gun, Republicans may move more secular. We'll see.
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    Originally Posted by veggie530 View Post
    It will all even out but it's going to take 3-4 election cycles for politicians to realign values with the American public to be competitive with a popular vote. Democrats may move more pro gun, Republicans may move more secular. We'll see.
    I think you should look into what the demographics will be in 3-4 election cycles and how those demographics feel about gun rights. Spoiler: say goodbye to your guns. American values are majority leftwing.
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    Until they change that.


    Which would also require a 2/3rds majority.
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    except theyll have the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF SAY as anyone else in the country you brain dead potato

    imagine crying when your super extra special voting power in national, federal elections is treated like literally everyone elses in the country

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    Right but the issue that those people want different things.

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    it will be a while before 3/4 of state legislative bodies agree to such an amendment.

    A more likely way to rout the EC is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...rstate_Compact It already has states with 196 EVs committed to it. If it gets states with 74 EV's to join, we'll have a de facto National Popular Vote, depending on if the NPVIC is deemed constitutional by the SC. I'd quote some lawyers about the NPVIC's prospects with the appellate courts but I don't want Memcop to take time away from solving homicides with a shark jack and bragging on his knowledge of pseudo topology just to call me unoriginal.
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    They have no voice anymore since Democrats have a lock with the EC.
    Not really. Trump showed Republicans in 2016 the Rust Belt can be a lot more competitive than they think if they warm up to the blue collar manufacturing workers. But if the party abandons Trumpism and returns to the Neo-Con Bush style conservatism, embracing globalism as the expense of US manufacturing, and doubling down on the anti-union platform they've always pushed, then this is true that they'll never win those states they need to put them over the top in the EC.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    He had a pretty intense surgical procedure and hospitalizations a couple of months ago and seems to be struggling at recovery.
    Hey you remember. I'm genuinely touched boyo.

    But no, that's not it. Trump and his follower's constant false claims of election fraud and a stolen election was the last straw for me. Trump exhibits zero qualities of even a competent leader, yet his followers do nothing but parrot his claims to the extent now that only what Trump claims is true.

    I'm so very sad about how my beautiful GOP has been crushed by Trumpism. So that's why I'm a little more worked up than normal. Just look at what happened a week ago. All driven by the belief by Trump supporters that red states, the courts, and the entire country conspired against Trump. It's insane.

    But back to the topic at hand. I understand very well why the EC was initially set up. I just think that we're all so connected now that it's worth discussing whether or not it's needed anymore. But I can see how conservatives would be so against it.
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    Patiently waiting for their bill on proportional representation.

    Oh right they won't ever introduce anything that would actually give more democratic power to the people because that would hurt their standing. This move is just a desperate power grab.
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    Patiently waiting for their bill on proportional representation.

    Oh right they won't ever introduce anything that would actually give more democratic power to the people because that would hurt their standing. This move is just a desperate power grab.
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    it will be a while before 3/4 of state legislative bodies agree to such an amendment.

    A more likely way to rout the EC is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...rstate_Compact It already has states with 196 EVs committed to it. If it gets states with 74 EV's to join, we'll have a de facto National Popular Vote, depending on if the NPVIC is deemed constitutional by the SC. I'd quote some lawyers about the NPVIC's prospects with the appellate courts but I don't want Memcop to take time away from solving homicides with a shark jack and bragging on his knowledge of pseudo topology just to call me unoriginal.
    So these (mostly democrat) states joined a pact to select their electors NOT based on the outcome of the votes in their state. Sounds a lot like what Trump was trying to do last week...
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    Right but the issue that those people want different things.

    What’s good for Los Angeles and New York is different than what’s good for a small town in Montana or an island off the coast of Alaska
    cool so how about everyone has an equal vote then? shouldnt the interests of all americans be weighed equally regardless of where they live? just lol at affirmative action voting power for people in small towns or islands off the coast of alaska
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    Originally Posted by yeshli2nuts View Post
    So these (mostly democrat) states joined a pact to select their electors NOT based on the outcome of the votes in their state. Sounds a lot like what Trump was trying to do last week...
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    CA and NY provide a far far greater proportion of the US's economy that flyover, trailer trash states like WVa, Alabama, Mississippi, etc.
    Lmao, how are 53?

    Cut off NYC and theyre done in 3 days. 3 days, Sillie. NYC is the reason NY goes blue.
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    Lmao, how are 53?

    Cut off NYC and theyre done in 3 days. 3 days, Sillie. NYC is the reason NY goes blue.
    whos cutting off what now?
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    Don't need electoral votes when they have Dominion.
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    Originally Posted by ViolentZ View Post
    conservatives own ****ton of guns

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    and they still dont do chit


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    Dems don't need this when they now know they can get away with voter fraud
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    Lol at 'elections'
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    Originally Posted by ViolentZ View Post
    conservatives own ****ton of guns

    they know election got stolen

    and they still dont do chit


    hahahahahhahahahahahah
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    It doesn't really matter Republicans have shown their true colors not like they care or are much better. Most of them will do and say anything to stay in power. There are a few like Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz who have shown they have courage to stick to their word.
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    do you want all states equal as the constitution intended or do you want California and NY to run everything?

    Have you not SEEN how california and NY are doing these days, you want them to determine all national policy?
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    Location: your parents basement. FFS you are a sorry worm of a man.
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    Originally Posted by skinnyntall View Post
    Don't need electoral votes when they have Dominion.
    That took some effort and it was a close call. Without the armed insurrection of 2021 it was iffy that they would get away with it. With the popular vote it will be easy AF to stay in power.
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    Originally Posted by ViolentZ View Post
    conservatives own ****ton of guns

    they know election got stolen

    and they still dont do chit


    hahahahahhahahahahahah
    They held a violent uprising at the capital.
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