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    is 5'8 170 achievable natural? also age 49.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CJWZuPPp..._web_copy_link

    obviously this guy is an gifted athlete to be world ranked.

    also how much do you think a person body weight changes per inch?

    i hear 8lbs thrown around before so if he was 5'10 he could be 186


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    obviously this guy is an gifted athlete to be world ranked.
    gifted world ranked athlete

    natural


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    lmfao kys
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    I was 175lbs at 5'8 naturally. Not that lean though.


    Is that guy natural? Hell no. Dude has an insane physique and is well balanced over-all. And he's selling a workout program with a lot of meme lifts/workouts in it.
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    Natty...lol.
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    I was 192 and 5’7.75 however not as lean as him all natty (About 12% bf)
    That was early 20s though, not 49 lol
    Whenever I see dudes over 40 in great shape I assume they’re at least on trt
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    so are u guys saying this is not achievable natty?
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    5’8 160 here


    That dude mogs me to death

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    Originally Posted by H00J View Post
    5’8 160 here


    That dude mogs me to death

    Fukthisgayearth
    hes also 49 breh.

    so im just trying to see if he is a big fat liar or just truly genetically gifted.

    i remember this one older miscer who was in great shape and says he is natural and people gave him **** for it , koalabrah
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    lmao

    that he has to bring up trt and natty means hes guilty

    its not really just the size, its the leaness at that age and the size


    idk why its such a big deal, everyone is using trt, it doesnt mean he still didnt work hard, but its so stupid to lie about it
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    no bro


    go on cell tech and you will see the truth. I've been on both sides but it becomes a lot more obvious after you have experience on the dark side.


    Tech gives your muscles that head turning look that's just pleasing to the eye. They look more filled out and full, like you literally have a pump 24/7. When you're natural they will always have a flatter look.


    The most obvious sign to me is his age and how much muscle he's carrying while being that lean.

    Look at how lean and muscular his wife is too. Bicep veins without a pump, defined six pack, separated quads. Dude women don't have near the amount of testosterone men have and that's difficult for men to achieve naturally. She's not natural either.
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    https://www.instagram.com/p/CIl2-XhpPCM/

    He isn't actually as lean as you guys think... He just has good fat storage, also lol if you can't achieve this natty. I bet he is 12%ish

    Also he is crazy blocky ab genetics like me, and good muscle bellies, guy is definitely a specimen.
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    Originally Posted by littlecaesars59 View Post
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CJWZuPPp..._web_copy_link

    obviously this guy is an gifted athlete to be world ranked.

    also how much do you think a person body weight changes per inch?

    i hear 8lbs thrown around before so if he was 5'10 he could be 186
    its possible but looking at his body he is not natural at all, his traps are big, his arms are swollen and full his body is lean too and he has a six pack

    The guy is a defrauding hard thats not a natty body at all
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    Originally Posted by littlecaesars59 View Post


    so are u guys saying this is not achievable natty?
    His traps are the dead giveaway, bulging traps brah
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    everyone these days runs at least .5 ml test, literally who cares about being "natural" anymore, this chit is so played out.

    i wish the fitness industry would stop caring so these *******s can stop frauding.

    another qualm i have is that these guys might edit the ever living chit out of their photos...and then when people throw accusations at them, they won't mention that either.

    that pic at the beach is nuts...that much size and that lean...muscles looking that full? bruh... AND at 49??? bruh
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    Every lifting manlet I know is at least 165

    Most are 170+ even if natty
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    Originally Posted by ChaliHo View Post
    its possible but looking at his body he is not natural at all, his traps are big, his arms are swollen and full his body is lean too and he has a six pack

    The guy is a defrauding hard thats not a natty body at all
    his traps/legs were already huge when he was running a marathon....

    look at his son's traps (right) at age 16.... has his dad's genes

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    his physique looks so weird with those giant blocky abs.

    i mean a men's physique guy at 49 would make him look tiny

    so i wanna beleaf.

    also his traps look big because he is literally flexing them, in the video they look pretty thin
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    Yes that’s fking EASILY achievable natty. Miscers who say otherwise are lazy failures not willing to put in the TIME. Always come up with some lame ass excuse why someone else is bigger or stronger blah blah blah stfu.


    I am a lifetime natty. Took me close to 10 years to get to my size in my avi and I was in my mid 20s. I’m in my mid 30s now and I’d mog that easily when I cut.

    Try picking up some heavy ass weight misc. it helps. I promise.
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    Originally Posted by Xtian View Post
    Yes that’s fking EASILY achievable natty. Miscers who say otherwise are lazy failures not willing to put in the TIME. Always come up with some lame ass excuse why someone else is bigger or stronger blah blah blah stfu.


    I am a lifetime natty. Took me close to 10 years to get to my size in my avi and I was in my mid 20s. I’m in my mid 30s now and I’d mog that easily when I cut.

    Try picking up some heavy ass weight misc. it helps. I promise.
    height weight in avI?

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    Originally Posted by LittleMissyFan View Post
    You're not even close to him in size. You're delusional

    Lol at saying that's achievable natural when he mogs you completely.
    I didn't say I was as big as him, learn to read brah, I said he has blocky abs like me, which means they can hold a lot of mass. makes physique look a lot better than somebody without blocky abs. Keep coping, you have to lift heavier weight and push yourself way past your limits read post #28
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    Originally Posted by LittleMissyFan View Post
    I know what you said. But you also said that's easily achievable, and you look nothing like him or close. You're delusional

    Thanks for the neg, wuss
    Its achievable, I didn't say easily achievable. I love your ability to speak for me. and you gonna keep getting negged. Also I never said I look like him, look read this We have the same blocky ab genetics, which means they hold a lot more mass than most people.

    Edit Meaning his physique looks better than somebody with ****ty ab genetics You tried to pick somebody out to troll and you failed, maybe next time.
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    Although, I will say.

    The guy isn’t natty.

    I say that more because of his captions than his physique... why else is he trying so hard to convince us he’s natty?

    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    Saw his ******* pushup video. Dude's definitely on sauce, what kind of guy with his physique would still be doing pushups? fukin lol

    That being said, I think his physique is achievable natty, I just don't think he did it natty
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    Originally Posted by LittleMissyFan View Post
    He has tons more muscle mass than you, stop mentioning abs
    Okay I give up, you don't get my point, He is obviously bigger than me. Get off of that. My original post was comparing abs, simply, but you are too thick-headed to realize that. I honestly don't know what we are arguing about anymore...
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    Ok his insta he has his pic from 22 yrs ago or whatever. That guy has clearly put in the time and effort.

    I Fukin hope he’s natty cuz I wanna beleaf. Be happy if I can get 70% of his physique

    He does also says “same intensity different goals” in his comparison pic. What the fuk does that mean? He’s lifting same weights since 22 yrs ago and just changed his goals form running to muscle / hypertrophy?

    Experienced miscers (lifting miscers) aware me

    Edit: 27 yrs ago. His comparison pic is 49 vs 22 yrs old
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