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    Originally Posted by ayyy View Post
    nah brah im not trying to be a dick i think you're missing what im saying

    your back is crazy underdeveloped to the point it looks like you dont even hit it, srs focus more on finding movements that feel good and you can hit right rather than following some copy and paste program from randoms. use those programs principles with the movements you find beneficial once you've gotten a better idea of what works, but don't waste the mental effort making "blocks" and following spread sheets to a T until you've learned how to make each muscle fire properly
    My back really? I thought you meant my arms, I feel they're really lacking!
    No I get you, I've been playing around with different exercises a bit and have found what seems to "feel" best, now it's a case of progressing with them.
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    What really makes your physique stand out is your forearms. Holy fuk man. My weakest bodypart by far.. can't get them to grow past 11.25". Tried so much.


    Couple of questions, one is pretty dumb:

    1) I used to buy fresh chicken thighs from Costco and stored them in the fridge. By the time their expiration date hit (keep in mind these are sealed packets), they had gone bad (very bad smell). Can I buy these and freeze them instead, and just use them when needed?

    2) I have gone full bloat mode and degenmaxxed on my diet. Have only found success on 20/4 intermittent fasting but am finding difficulty sticking to it on the 4th day. Can I incorporate a small 200-300 calorie surplus on the 4th day if it helps me stay consistent? I do upper/rest + cardio/lower on the other 3 days.
    Your best bet with chicken is to cook all of it, freeze what you wont eat for a few days, and refrigerate the cooked that you will eat soon. Cooked chicken will last longer than raw and nothing wrong with putting it in the freezer except it may take a day or two to thaw out in the fridge. Make sure you are trimming the thighs though loads of fat thats not necessary and better to get from avocados, almond butter, fish, etc...

    I would widen the window. I am not a big fan of intermittent fasting at all and more about nutrient timing. Fasted cardio, some carbs pre and post workout, and eating to recover and be able to maintain diet without being food obsessed. Personally I like to jam pack my meals towards the end of the day, I am less hungry in the AM but i also need to eat after fasted cardio and before lifting and staying fasted after training is also a good way to go catabolic and lose muscle mass which in turn will mean less fat loss.

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    Originally Posted by Khumatmibro View Post
    My back really? I thought you meant my arms, I feel they're really lacking!
    No I get you, I've been playing around with different exercises a bit and have found what seems to "feel" best, now it's a case of progressing with them.
    what do you do for back?
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    Originally Posted by ayyy View Post
    what do you do for back?
    At the minute I'm training full body 3x a week in my garage.

    For back

    Day 1
    kB rows.

    Day 2
    Deadlift
    Pull ups
    Barbell rows

    Day 3
    kB rows

    About 12-15 sets minimum (excluding deadlifts). When the gyms re-open I would probably use a cable row instead of dB most of the time, barbell row has always felt good for me.

    I didn't think my back was my most obvious weak point tbh. It's actually the one body part I get comments on by non-lifters irl.
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    updates this week, 11.5 weeks out from Nationals now, cant wait to show nonsense916 old jestbrah is actually going to become an IFBB pro






    Current macros are about 500g protein, 150-175c, 60F

    cardio is 50 min stairs 6 days a week, 10k steps 7 days a week, lifting PPL 6 days a week.

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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    updates this week, 11.5 weeks out from Nationals now, cant wait to show nonsense916 old jestbrah is actually going to become an IFBB pro






    Current macros are about 500g protein, 150-175c, 60F

    cardio is 50 min stairs 6 days a week, 10k steps 7 days a week, lifting PPL 6 days a week.

    So far I am still hitting progressive overload every session. Training partners are massive successful coach and podcast host and a top 3 olympian. Have one of the top 3 posing coaches in the country who is also a national judge.
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    What's the reasoning for 500g of protein, have you always kept protein very high or have you increased it as you lowered calories?
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    Originally Posted by Khumatmibro View Post
    At the minute I'm training full body 3x a week in my garage.

    For back

    Day 1
    kB rows.

    Day 2
    Deadlift
    Pull ups
    Barbell rows

    Day 3
    kB rows

    About 12-15 sets minimum (excluding deadlifts). When the gyms re-open I would probably use a cable row instead of dB most of the time, barbell row has always felt good for me.

    I didn't think my back was my most obvious weak point tbh. It's actually the one body part I get comments on by non-lifters irl.
    focus more on the movement patterns

    im guessing on the bb rows you're at a 45 degree angle and using about twice as much weight as you should, db rows you're twisting your whole body away from the db to make it easier and also going too heavy

    and its definitely the most glaring weak point, you aren't big enough your arms or shoulders are going to be anything noteworthy but your back should be seeing some development by now.
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    Originally Posted by ayyy View Post
    focus more on the movement patterns

    im guessing on the bb rows you're at a 45 degree angle and using about twice as much weight as you should, db rows you're twisting your whole body away from the db to make it easier and also going too heavy

    and its definitely the most glaring weak point, you aren't big enough your arms or shoulders are going to be anything noteworthy but your back should be seeing some development by now.
    Definitely more horizontal pulling than vertical at the minute . Not 45 but not strictly 90 degrees either
    and yes probably a bit of body-english alright but not taking the piss either. Okay point noted I need to work on my back.
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    Originally Posted by Khumatmibro View Post
    Definitely more horizontal pulling than vertical at the minute . Not 45 but not strictly 90 degrees ether
    and yes probablyy a bit of body-english alright but not taking the piss either. Okay point noted I'll work on my back.


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    Originally Posted by Khumatmibro View Post
    Absolute unit.
    What's the reasoning for 500g of protein, have you always kept protein very high or have you increased it as you lowered calories?
    helps speed up recovery, i mean I am 6ft and 250lbs in these pics so I have a lot of muscle that needs protein. It keeps me slightly more satiated but honestly, not that much, 150g of rice does far more for satiation than an extra 50g lean protein for a couple meals.

    Higher protein is VERY unlikely to be converted to fat as well and it keeps the metabolism from adapating to low calories too soon without slowing down fat loss. So I am still eating ~ 3100 calories a day that leaves me 1300 more calories to drop to get to 1800 at the end which I could take from protein and fats without having to remove the carbs too soon or go to a protein only diet for the last 6 weeks.
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    coach dropped the hammer now at 12 weeks out from regional, 14 from nationals and really hitting the cardio and cutting back the carbs, protein still 450 and going to remain around there

    time to actually start getting peeled now



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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    I will be getting in on this when I sharpen up a litrle more. 3 weeks into prep 15 and 17 weeks out. Finally doing a real run at nationals in classic physique.
    Have a mildly famous coach who is actually my lifting partner now so good things coming.

    Currently already lost 10lbs and eating 4000+calories a day less than 30 min cardio 5 days a week.



    1.75-2g/lb

    No one ever lost a bodybuilding competition by eating too much protein. I have heard it from most of the top coaches that as long as digestion isnt being screwed up, theres is no real "limit" to protein. More protein= more recovery = more muscle mass= better workouts.

    If you ask me there is no reason a male should ever be under 300g protein if hes trying to be aesthetic or compete.
    What amount of protein do you think a female should have?

    When I trained with an IFBB pro she had me at 115 g of protein. But I got tired of her bland diet and now have oat and chia bowls, and protein smoothies with fruit and veggies mixed in. I realize I eat a lot more fat and sugar this way, but it tastes better Aesthetics or taste. Sigh.
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    What amount of protein do you think a female should have?

    When I trained with an IFBB pro she had me at 115 g of protein. But I got tired of her bland diet and now have oat and chia bowls, and protein smoothies with fruit and veggies mixed in. I realize I eat a lot more fat and sugar this way, but it tastes better Aesthetics or taste. Sigh.
    girls have weaker digestive systems and overloading with protein is gonna cause a lot more digestive issues than it would for a guy, 100g is more than enough for any girl not trying to compete that weighs <140
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    What amount of protein do you think a female should have?

    When I trained with an IFBB pro she had me at 115 g of protein. But I got tired of her bland diet and now have oat and chia bowls, and protein smoothies with fruit and veggies mixed in. I realize I eat a lot more fat and sugar this way, but it tastes better Aesthetics or taste. Sigh.
    Usually it's a gram per pound of goal body weight

    So if you want to be 120 pounds then 120 grams of protein
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    helps speed up recovery, i mean I am 6ft and 250lbs in these pics so I have a lot of muscle that needs protein. It keeps me slightly more satiated but honestly, not that much, 150g of rice does far more for satiation than an extra 50g lean protein for a couple meals.

    Higher protein is VERY unlikely to be converted to fat as well and it keeps the metabolism from adapating to low calories too soon without slowing down fat loss. So I am still eating ~ 3100 calories a day that leaves me 1300 more calories to drop to get to 1800 at the end which I could take from protein and fats without having to remove the carbs too soon or go to a protein only diet for the last 6 weeks.
    Okay that sounds reasonable, it looks like an f tonne of protein until I remember you are 250 lbs!
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    What amount of protein do you think a female should have?

    When I trained with an IFBB pro she had me at 115 g of protein. But I got tired of her bland diet and now have oat and chia bowls, and protein smoothies with fruit and veggies mixed in. I realize I eat a lot more fat and sugar this way, but it tastes better Aesthetics or taste. Sigh.

    Anywhere from 1.6g-2.2g/kg bodyweight. If you're eating at maintenance or in a surplus you can keep protein on the lower side 1.6g/kg and if you're dieting you should probably increase it closer to 2.2g/kg just to offset any possible muscle loss from being in a caloric deficit.
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    Forgot about this thread. Off season but I have put on some size. Need to take some pics. Hard because my gym has ****ty lighting.
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    Forgot about this thread. Off season but I have put on some size. Need to take some pics. Hard because my gym has ****ty lighting.
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    Upped my cals to 3.2k for a week or two, which is just a bit below maintenance, just to give my metabolism a break and do a small recomp. At this rate imma be lean as fuk by the end of March and once i have no more goal in mind i start slipping up, so yeah gonna take it a bit slower this time around.
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    Ho lee fuk, I'm female and just clicked on this thread.

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    Originally Posted by iloveus View Post
    Usually it's a gram per pound of goal body weight

    So if you want to be 120 pounds then 120 grams of protein
    Yeah this is pretty much the norm that most women will follow. When I was competing I set my protein around 150 grams. In the off season I'd go a bit lower.

    All you guys look great, nicely done! Will be back to give out reps when I can.
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    Abs are back on the menu boyos.

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