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    Originally Posted by EnforcerOTF View Post
    well, that's assuming all "400k" deaths are from covid, which is the biggest argument here.
    Thats also assuming any at all died from the vaccine. Litey starting points are off by a factor of about 200,000-400,000x more due disease than vaccine
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    Originally Posted by HtotheOV View Post
    it’s pretty funny listening to the anti vaccine crowd every time someone comes up in the news that got a bad reaction or whatever..it’s going to happen and still happens even with the flu vaccine being around for all these years

    “oMG 3 people out of 4M people who took the vaccine got a horrible reaction!!! someone else still got COVID the next day!!! vaccines bad!!”

    grandmother got her first dose last week and is doing fine aside from arm soreness


    So u dnt feel one percent worried about this vaccine?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Thats also assuming any at all died from the vaccine. Litey starting points are off by a factor of about 200,000-400,000x more due disease than vaccine
    Im not complaining about the vaccine, the sooner get back to normal the better. I just don't feel like I need to take it, but the more people that do it helps ease tension I'm all for it.

    I am saying however that there is a large discrepancy in true "covid" deaths vs glorified ones to make the numbers look scary.
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    Originally Posted by EnforcerOTF View Post
    Im not complaining about the vaccine, the sooner get back to normal the better. I just don't feel like I need to take it, but the more people that do it helps ease tension I'm all for it.

    I am saying however that there is a large discrepancy in true "covid" deaths vs glorified ones to make the numbers look scary.
    There probably is a discrepancy. Covid deaths are being undercounted.
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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    There probably is a discrepancy. Covid deaths are being undercounted.
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    Originally Posted by EnforcerOTF View Post
    Im not complaining about the vaccine, the sooner get back to normal the better. I just don't feel like I need to take it, but the more people that do it helps ease tension I'm all for it.

    I am saying however that there is a large discrepancy in true "covid" deaths vs glorified ones to make the numbers look scary.
    Most likely covid is under counted.

    If the cdc applied the same estimates multiplied by an estimate to covid that they do to influenza, you'd lose your ****ing mind at how big the number would be. Just...for example.

    This is how you "glorify" numbers to make them look scary. Note: This is NOT what is done with covid. Imagine if it was!

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    crossposting from another thread:

    Well besides this new strain from Brazil it seems there are two new strains found in the US.

    Brazilian strain:
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/137333...already-in-uk/

    2 New US strains:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/13/ohio...in-the-us.html

    Also China has reimposed a lockdown:
    https://thehill.com/policy/internati...lion-residents

    Read that the new UK strain seems to be hitting under 20s more, doesn't say more deadly though.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....30.20249034v2

    And the stats guy from arfcom has said something about the UK variant trending w/higher fatality, but that hasn't been in the news anywhere.

    Mixed messages on the vaccine effectiveness w/new strains. Some said "maybe not effective", then there was an item that came out saying "still effective", Gottlieb I believe said "less effective".
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post

    Read that the new UK strain seems to be hitting under 20s more, doesn't say more deadly though.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....30.20249034v2

    And the stats guy from arfcom has said something about the UK variant trending w/higher fatality, but that hasn't been in the news anywhere.
    More children are testing positive with the new UK strain but no sign of increased illness from it, there has been a lot more testing of school classes and families so lots of asymptomatic and mildly ill younger people are showing up in the results that would never have been tested in the 1st wave.

    Not heard any evidence from anywhere that the new UK variant is more deadly.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Most likely covid is under counted.

    If the cdc applied the same estimates multiplied by an estimate to covid that they do to influenza, you'd lose your ****ing mind at how big the number would be. Just...for example.

    This is how you "glorify" numbers to make them look scary. Note: This is NOT what is done with covid. Imagine if it was!

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    Conserviphags truly cucked themselves on their ability to overthrow the government. Conserviphags identify themselves as for abiding by the rules and respecting cops. So how they gonna act against cops during a riot ? They wont do chit. Thats why cops/national guard immediately took the control in capitol hill. Within 5 minutes, all these weekend warriors homos, who claim to own guns to scare the gubernment, scrambled by the sight of cops moving in. Let me remind u that these buttmunchers believe dems stole the election and they litteraly stood by and watch it happen. What about muh 2nd amendment ? What about "the south will rise again' ?

    I learned something from the recent events: there will never be a civil war in the usa, because conserviphags simply dont have the balls. This zhole 2nd amendment chit is all huff and puff, like a pufferfish.


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    The Israeli Ministry of Health: 13 people developed mild facial paralysis after receiving the Corona vaccine
    https://trendswide.com/the-israeli-m...orona-vaccine/
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    I know we are all very very tired of the "be afraid" drumbeat. And I don't claim any authority or expertise as far as forecasting the future.

    But the math looks grim. I know we were starting to see a slight decline in the US. Then this UK variant was found here also and I've read that the percentage of positive tests has increased presumably because of more infectious strains.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    If we hold steady at 250K new cases a day X 17 fatalities per 1,000 cases then we will double the number of deaths in the US in about 100 days.

    Texas has been the first state to give 1 million vaccines in about 2 weeks time.

    More than 3 out of every 100 Texans have been vaccinated so far, according to the CDC. Texas is also outpacing other populous states like California, which has administered just shy of 1 million shots but has been allotted more than 3 million doses so far, according to the CDC.

    While more than 8 million Texans qualify to receive the shot, only about 2 million doses had shipped as of Jan. 8. The state also opened up vaccine eligibility to the second tier, which included elderly and chronically ill Texans, before hundreds of thousands of front-line health care workers had received their first dose. This left clinicians unprepared to handle the surge of new patients.
    https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01...e-one-million/

    If we continue to vaccinate at the same rate AND the vaccine is effective enough against the newer strains that have emerged then it would be at least 100 days for those presently eligible to be vaccinated (most vulnerable) to be immunized + a couple of weeks for their actual immunity to be in effect.

    Unfortunately there are reports of delays from Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson (different vax).

    https://www.google.com/search?q=covi...&bih=469&dpr=2

    If you believe that the reported number of fatalities is at least not an overestimate that means we could see another 400,000 Americans dead within the next 3 months or so. Worldwide we just hit 2 million...4 million by sometime in April?



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    That would be the largest single-year decline in life expectancy in the past 40 years and cut U.S. life expectancy to 77.48 years — the lowest it's been since 2003, the researchers say.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Most likely covid is under counted.

    If the cdc applied the same estimates multiplied by an estimate to covid that they do to influenza, you'd lose your ****ing mind at how big the number would be. Just...for example.

    This is how you "glorify" numbers to make them look scary. Note: This is NOT what is done with covid. Imagine if it was!

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    Sometimes I wonder if I have after effects of covid.


    I used to work two jobs before covid. 12-16 hour workdays few times a week. I quit one job after covid i can barely handle 8 hour shifts.

    I mean my job is laborious as **** and its graveyard. And Maybe im just getting old. And or paranoid. Tired every day during work.
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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    There probably is a discrepancy. Covid deaths are being undercounted.
    Blah. Well I don't know if you think these people should be counted or should not be counted, but a study by the NHS/UK found that of those ill enough to be hospitalized about 30% of the recovered/discharged were readmitted and more than 1 in 3 of those readmits died.

    https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/18/one-i...days-13920415/

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1249885v1.full

    But I also read US cases overall seem to be flat or trending downward. Hope that holds.

    Heard on the news last week that the UK strain was found in Houston and today they said they have found it in DFW. Not mentioning as a personal concern, just concerning that more infectious variant could send total cases back upwards.
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    Just received the first Pfizer jab today, my jab card says the next one is booked for 3 months today lol. Probably end up being completely ineffective. Not arsed anyway. Never tested positive, never had any symptoms despite responding to numerous Covid positive patients every shift for the last 10 months. Only got the jab so I can go abroad post lockdown.
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    Originally Posted by Galindo62 View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if I have after effects of covid.


    I used to work two jobs before covid. 12-16 hour workdays few times a week. I quit one job after covid i can barely handle 8 hour shifts.




    I mean my job is laborious as **** and its graveyard. And Maybe im just getting old. And or paranoid. Tired every day during work.
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    Just received the first Pfizer jab today, my jab card says the next one is booked for 3 months today lol. Probably end up being completely ineffective. Not arsed anyway. Never tested positive, never had any symptoms despite responding to numerous Covid positive patients every shift for the last 10 months. Only got the jab so I can go abroad post lockdown.
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    Two years later... R.I.P "at least I went abroad."
    You're not looking particularly accurate here sug

    Haven't even hit December of 2020's goal yet of field hospitals in every county, and less than two weeks until you need to shut down all businesses and institute a full lockdown.

    Better step it up!

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    What's Good For Thee Is NOT For Me!
    Globalist Minions Getting OBVIOUS FAKE Vaccines World Wide


    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/...ve-on-tv-wait/

    This is how stupid they literally think you are. This Brazilian globalist minion OBVIOUSLY did NOT get even a saline shot, she got zilch, nodda, zero , NOTHING. Global elitism is on full display while these bastards take away your freedoms today, your life tomorrow. Why do we even put up with this?
    "I’m guessing that the scenario with the vaccine will be that, after they jab a good number of victims, they will report that the covid numbers are going down and the vaccine will end up “ending the crisis.” Then, the next time they pull this hoax, they will make the vaccines mandatory because it’s been “proven to work” so no one will have the right to refuse."
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    Originally Posted by LizzieTish View Post
    Two years later... R.I.P "at least I went abroad."
    You're not looking particularly accurate here sug

    Haven't even hit December of 2020's goal yet of field hospitals in every county, and less than two weeks until you need to shut down all businesses and institute a full lockdown.

    Better step it up!

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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    I know we are all very very tired of the "be afraid" drumbeat. And I don't claim any authority or expertise as far as forecasting the future.

    But the math looks grim. I know we were starting to see a slight decline in the US. Then this UK variant was found here also and I've read that the percentage of positive tests has increased presumably because of more infectious strains.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    If we hold steady at 250K new cases a day X 17 fatalities per 1,000 cases then we will double the number of deaths in the US in about 100 days.

    Texas has been the first state to give 1 million vaccines in about 2 weeks time.



    https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01...e-one-million/

    If we continue to vaccinate at the same rate AND the vaccine is effective enough against the newer strains that have emerged then it would be at least 100 days for those presently eligible to be vaccinated (most vulnerable) to be immunized + a couple of weeks for their actual immunity to be in effect.

    Unfortunately there are reports of delays from Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson (different vax).

    https://www.google.com/search?q=covi...&bih=469&dpr=2

    If you believe that the reported number of fatalities is at least not an overestimate that means we could see another 400,000 Americans dead within the next 3 months or so. Worldwide we just hit 2 million...4 million by sometime in April?





    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...tudy-concludes
    Nonsense. Deaths over the next month are already "baked into the cake" as I like to say, and we have maybe another week before deaths start falling more than they have on average (looking at one day is dumbassery, as reporting is inconsistent with deaths)

    Positive test rates are down 30% from just 2 weeks ago.
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

    Hospitalized patients down 15,000 in the last 10 days. ICU patients down 1800, people on ventilators have been going down since New Year's Eve.
    https://covidtracking.com/data/national/hospitalization

    20 million vaccination shots given in the USA. More than 1/3rd of those in just the last week. Since 40% or more of deaths have been people from elder care homes and they are less than 1% of the population, numbers overall will fall quickly a few weeks after they've all had their shots. First shot offers half protection. They and millions of other over 65s have gotten at least a first shot. The peak happening 2-3 weeks after Christmas was entirely predictable. It also helps that half of us in the USA have been infected, so even as infectious as the virus is it is running slimmer on potential hosts.

    Reality: 75K deaths over the next month, 120-130K over the next 3 months.
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    So u dnt feel one percent worried about this vaccine?
    More COVID Vaccine incurred permanent disabilities You Are NOT Supposed To See:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/MS1LP8qY9G21/

    Bill Gates said.. "Pandemic II Would Get Everyone's Attention"

    What has happened to this poor soul is ONLY the beginning. Once those who have taken these eugenics shots and their body is producing God knows what, a common cold or a seasonal flu shot can, and most likely will, cause their body to attack itself. [based on the success of these bioweapon's tests on animals] Obviously THEY [See EVENT 201 / Dark Winter] are hiding the death and destruction that these vaccines are causing already. Once people start dying from wild viruses and seasonal [mandatory?] flu shots, the mass death will obviously be called pandemic II. And yes, it will get everyone's undivided attention.

    It is of extreme importance that YOU document and share the death and destruction of those around you, who foolishly took these soft kill vaccines, with those who are left months even years from now.

    PCR Test To Drive FALSE Vaccine Efficacy Narrative

    Living in a world of FAKE science, order followers, and draconian rules.

    The PCR test was chosen by the EVENT 201 crowd who run both the World Health Organization, and the USA CDC with the help of COVID czar Fauci, to deceive the scientific community and the world. In the beginning of the COVID operation the PCR cycle rate was set high by both the CONTROLLED CDC / WHO to get the high positive test rates to drive FEAR and draconian policies like Lockdowns, mask obedience [the driver to vaccine obedience], Orwellian social distancing behavior modification…

    The idea was that the majority of dim wits out on the street, world have no idea that the PCR test itself was meaningless in the way it was being used. This would include duped ‘local’ doctors who simply followed orders without so much as researching the test itself. With high PCR cycle rates the EVENT 201 deceivers could use the guaranteed false positive results to use ‘terrorism’ by waving so-called COVID cases like bloody shirts at the public. Because of topdown control of this COVID operation, the public was completely misguided into policies that not only cost millions their jobs, lively hood, freedoms but in some cases their lives MORE then the virus itself. For the first time in history a ‘case-demic’ was frightening the masses into mass stupidity and obedience.

    Because this ‘topdown’ pseudo science was so bad, the EVENT 201 crowd in their October 2019 open conspiracy against the world said that THEY, [those few that own the majority of media] needed to “censor ALL opposition” to this COVID operation, that THEY were going to launch in January 2020. As a result, one of the largest censorship operations EVER conducted on the planet was focused primarily on the scientific and medical community that challenged the monolithic WHO and CDC pseudo science driving the draconian policies of their global masters.

    The censorship dragnet was far and wide but, one topic that needed the harshest crackdown by globalist controlled media outlets centered squarely on the PCR test itself. The test used to terrorize and drive draconian mandates had to be protected at ALL costs. So ALL scientific input on the use of the PCR test was heavily censored. The man who won the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR test itself, Kary Mullis, had a history calling out NOW COVID czar Fauci. Even before the EVENT 201 crowd used the PCR test to CON the public into giving up their lively hood and take dangerous experimental medial technology, Kary Mullis accused Fauci of using the PCR test to deceive the public. So, this PCR test deception was nothing new in the science community by people like Fauci and of course, Kary Mullis conveniently died in 2019 less than a year before the EVENT 201 crowd would FALSELY use his test.

    The ministry of deception ‘Fact Checkers’ love to rail on the fact that Kary Mullis died right before the COVID operation, BUT FAIL to report the FACT that Mullis had already caught the likes of CDC / COVID czar Fauci using his test to FAKE results for his own gain. The bought and paid for so-called ‘fact checkers’ NEVER link to the video where Mullis directly accuses Fauci himself of using his test incorrectly AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG IN THIS COVID OPERATION. Hear the words out of the man who invented the PCR test itself, for yourself.

    This PCR Test Propaganda Operation Isn’t Rocket Science

    When the EVENT 201 crowd needed FAKE data points in the form of high COVID test results, they knowingly and purposely used high PCR test cycles to get those very high FALSE positives need to terrorize the population with. Now that their very dangerous biotech being FALSELY called a vaccine has been rolled out, they have to lower the cycle threshold in order to further falsify data points that their dangerous technology is producing lower cases thus, falsifying the efficacy of these pseudo vaccines.

    Just in time for the vaccine roll out… World Health Organization lowers cycle threshold.

    “WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology.

    WHO reminds IVD users that disease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases (2). This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity. “ -World Heath Organization

    Of course the CDC will follow suit once they are signaled to do so. The ‘real’ scientific community who have been silenced ARE outraged at such overt deception. When THEY [controlled corporate / intelligence run media] starts to use lowered case numbers to champion their dangerous vaccine technology WE ALL have to speak out to everyone around us about this Verifiable fraud. These FAKE lower cases due to vaccine narrative will be used to violate the Nuremberg Code by forcing this experimental technology on EVERYONE in the ford of forced mandatory vaccines.

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    "I’m guessing that the scenario with the vaccine will be that, after they jab a good number of victims, they will report that the covid numbers are going down and the vaccine will end up “ending the crisis.” Then, the next time they pull this hoax, they will make the vaccines mandatory because it’s been “proven to work” so no one will have the right to refuse."
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    Originally Posted by LizzieTish View Post
    Two years later... R.I.P "at least I went abroad."
    One week to shut down all businesses, stop all jobs, full lockdown!

    And a full month behind schedule on having a field hospital in every county. tsk tsk

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    "Hank Aaron Death: MLB Legend Shockingly Passes Away Weeks After Taking COVID-19 Vaccine
    Hank Aaron death: The MLB legend and one-time home-run king took a coronavirus vaccine shot just weeks before his death on Friday in Atlanta.

    Written By Sreehari Menon

    Atalanta Braves legend Henry Louis 'Hank' Aaron breathed his last on Friday, January 22, 2021. Regarded as one of the finest baseball players of all-time, Aaron had eclipsed Babe Ruth as baseball’s home run king, hitting 755 homers and holding the most celebrated record in sports for more than 30 years. He died at the age of 86.
    ,,,
    Aaron, at the time, had told Associated Press that he had no qualms in getting vaccinated and was proud of himself for doing so. Many have alleged that his death could be triggered by the vaccine dosage, but there have been no confirmed reports of the same. Major League Baseball Commissioner Robert Manfred Jr. called his friendship with Aaron "one of the greatest honors of my life" while paying his respects to the Braves legend.
    ..."
    "I’m guessing that the scenario with the vaccine will be that, after they jab a good number of victims, they will report that the covid numbers are going down and the vaccine will end up “ending the crisis.” Then, the next time they pull this hoax, they will make the vaccines mandatory because it’s been “proven to work” so no one will have the right to refuse."
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    lol, 86 year old dies "Just weeks" after a vaccine...it was the vaccine!!!

    86 year old dies 4 days after testing positive for covid...what it wasn't covid he was just old!


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    UK strain 70% more infectious

    And now found to be 30% more deadly


    https://fortune.com/2021/01/22/uk-vi...re-lethal/amp/
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    Originally Posted by EnforcerOTF View Post
    Im not complaining about the vaccine, the sooner get back to normal the better. I just don't feel like I need to take it, but the more people that do it helps ease tension I'm all for it.

    I am saying however that there is a large discrepancy in true "covid" deaths vs glorified ones to make the numbers look scary.
    Originally Posted by Matty5RA View Post
    Just received the first Pfizer jab today, my jab card says the next one is booked for 3 months today lol. Probably end up being completely ineffective. Not arsed anyway. Never tested positive, never had any symptoms despite responding to numerous Covid positive patients every shift for the last 10 months. Only got the jab so I can go abroad post lockdown.
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    lol, 86 year old dies "Just weeks" after a vaccine...it was the vaccine!!!

    86 year old dies 4 days after testing positive for covid...what it wasn't covid he was just old!


    lmao
    you can test false positive for covid

    im surprised they didnt announce his death as covid
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    UK strain 70% more infectious

    And now found to be 30% more deadly

    https://fortune.com/2021/01/22/uk-vi...re-lethal/amp/
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    you can test false positive for covid

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    Originally Posted by LizzieTish View Post
    Two years later... R.I.P "at least I went abroad."
    One week to shut down all businesses, stop all jobs, full lockdown!

    And a full month behind schedule on having a field hospital in every county. tsk tsk

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