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    Originally Posted by Olympia2018 View Post
    I have some concerns here,

    How can consuming powder form bcaas benefit you when you have a protein shake hi in leucine and egg whites too for example, and you’re saying after 10-15 minutes you can take bcaas again in addition by itself and it’ll benefit you?

    I love supplements and do take bcaas every day to just sip on but I am skeptical if I am over board on bcaas from all the protein I eat
    Charlie was a great strength and conditioning coach, but he had no real background in nutrition, not to mention he worked with a lot of enhanced athletes and I'm betting some of them could put on 9 pounds eating twinkies.
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    LOL. Okay Fug.
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    Originally Posted by TheVikingBody View Post
    great post, thank you
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    Originally Posted by TCWoody View Post
    Nice going, phaggot. You get your buddy Farley1324 to neg me. Real classy. Shows who the true phaggots are.
    The same guy negged me, lol
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    Originally Posted by Olympia2018 View Post
    I have some concerns here,

    How can consuming powder form bcaas benefit you when you have a protein shake hi in leucine and egg whites too for example, and you’re saying after 10-15 minutes you can take bcaas again in addition by itself and it’ll benefit you?

    I love supplements and do take bcaas every day to just sip on but I am skeptical if I am over board on bcaas from all the protein I eat
    BCAAs are instantly available for use, protein from whole foods/shakes take hours upon hours to digest, and the majority is used for energy

    It's also hard to disagree with someone that has a proven track record developing champions
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    lol, he's talking to himself again
    You just keep asking people how much protein they consume

    Leave the heavy stuff to me
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    Originally Posted by Jeff the Repper View Post
    Charlie was a great strength and conditioning coach, but he had no real background in nutrition, not to mention he worked with a lot of enhanced athletes and I'm betting some of them could put on 9 pounds eating twinkies.
    I guess his gold medalists ate cupcakes. You also know zero about him
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    For those who feel Charles doesn't know much about nutrition

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    40 grams a day is not more? I would be glad if you could light it up.

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    I guess his gold medalists ate cupcakes. You also know zero about him
    once again you are making assumptions about things you are not certain of Fuge.
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    Originally Posted by Jeff the Repper View Post
    once again you are making assumptions about things you are not certain of Fuge.
    You said he doesn't know much about nutrition, I completely disagree. He was on another level when it came to developing athletes
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    BCAAs are instantly available for use, protein from whole foods/shakes take hours upon hours to digest, and the majority is used for energy

    It's also hard to disagree with someone that has a proven track record developing champions

    That’s right bcaas digest in like 5 mins? How would this compare to having egg whites an hour and a half before working out and doing my isolate after I workout, would I still benefit from bcaas during? Thanks
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    You said he doesn't know much about nutrition, I completely disagree. He was on another level when it came to developing athletes

    Some people are just negative, as you can see in my avi I’m all about supplements and “pump” I’ve taken jay cutlers legend pre workout beta test when he only gave to 5 people to try along with selling 100,000$ in supplements in a month to people on the phone cold calling who all came back for more with me because they work when directed proper. I’ve also made countless supplements and still have things I’ve never seen in the market 😈 my veins pop out before I even get my first pump in




    Best ways I’d train people to break their fast is with bcaas and Isolate shake after 5 minutes. Bcaas I know work and use daily or I wouldn’t take, but again I feel like I do get ample amount from diet, which originates my above question if you have some knowledge on it thanks.
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    Originally Posted by Olympia2018 View Post
    along with selling 100,000$ in supplements in a month to people on the phone cold calling
    That's what it's all about

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    That's what it's all about
    Do BCAAs work? Well look at it this way, last month I cold-called enough people and convinced them to collectively spend $100k, so you tell me if they work’
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    That's what it's all about
    Lol 😂 to some it is I agree, to me however no, and that’s why I made more friends then I can think of,

    I actually just visited a guy in a different state I been coaching for years that I literally changed his life off medications and Dude is more active then me now at 40

    I can say the only ones that got ripped off are the ones who didn’t follow the plans

    But I can tell you ive gotten over 20 people to be off hi blood pressure medication, cholesterol and some diabetics to not be, of course it’s more then just supplements but it is a blessing



    Take a fat guy who drinks 2 gallons of sodas a day and now I have him drinking 6-8 servings of hydration/bcaas a day instead that taste good and it’ll justify 100,000$ X 100 people I use to sell to
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    Originally Posted by Olympia2018 View Post
    Lol ������ to some it is I agree, to me however no, and that’s why I made more friends then I can think of,

    I actually just visited a guy in a different state I been coaching for years that I literally changed his life off medications and Dude is more active then me now at 40

    I can say the only ones that got ripped off are the ones who didn’t follow the plans

    But I can tell you ive gotten over 20 people to be off hi blood pressure medication, cholesterol and some diabetics to not be, of course it’s more then just supplements but it is a blessing



    Take a fat guy who drinks 2 gallons of sodas a day and now I have him drinking 6-8 servings of hydration/bcaas a day instead that taste good and it’ll justify 100,000$ X 100 people I use to sell to
    Diet is indeed key

    Better diet and maybe some fish oil/EFA's can work wonders for getting off medications

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    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    Do BCAAs work? Well look at it this way, last month I cold-called enough people and convinced them to collectively spend $100k, so you tell me if they work’
    Read my comment above


    There are some people who sell people crap they don’t need and don’t give them advice how to take it and those are the ones who say it doesn’t work


    And then there’s the ones who follow a program, take supplementation in place of bad habits or habits that can improve, and those are the ones who are rewarded greatly.


    When I call back and see notes of “client refused to follow plan and left 1200$ of supplements in closet for two year’s” and his secretary says “he no longer is around due to heart failure” and stats were 360 pounds 5 10 48 years old


    You can’t blame supplements for not working




    I’ll break it down easier for some of you guys



    Instead of having 50 grams of fat 150 grams of carbs that will absolutely fuk your hormones

    Compared to waking up having bcaas first, isolate 30 grams of protein 2nd and not eating for hour and a half then a balanced meal


    Guess who’s going to be healthier, better hormones and burn more fat?

    Do supplements work? Absolutely

    It’s about timing and as word says



    Supplement in your diet


    And before “you can eat a spoonful of salt and be healthier then eating the breakfast above”

    This is about “supplementing” with sources available for conveniency along work maximizing for benefits


    Yes a 2000$ running Kia and a 1.2 million dollar Bugatti will get you to point A and B but which will get you there quicker and more consistent?


    Hope that helps some of you
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Diet is indeed key

    Better diet and maybe some fish oil/EFA's can work wonders for getting off medications
    Oh yeah, I would say 20,000$ at time in a month I was a coach was krill oils



    My favorite?

    Chocolate liquid fat burner with food suppressor, I’d have fat people eating that instead of bags of candy,

    It cost 97$ a bottle that last a week but factor it into their bad habits they’re eliminating it’ now cost them pennies for pounds n pounds of weight lost and same satisfaction if not more as they lost appetites for bad stuff
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    Bcaas as a supplement only truly have one effective purpose: To preserve the storage of muscle glycogen. You would only need that preservation with the following: 2-4hrs of moderate to intense exercise, lower carb diet where glycogen levels deplete faster or you forgot your Gatorade on the basketball court.
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    You said he doesn't know much about nutrition, I completely disagree. He was on another level when it came to developing athletes
    you have the right to your opinion, he was great when it came to conditioning and strength building. I have read about everything he ever wrote and even had correspondence with him years ago about lifting and training. His nutrition knowledge is just subpar in my opinion as well as many people who had interactions with him in the past. I'll just leave it at that
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    you have the right to your opinion, he was great when it came to conditioning and strength building. I have read about everything he ever wrote and even had correspondence with him years ago about lifting and training. His nutrition knowledge is just subpar in my opinion as well as many people who had interactions with him in the past. I'll just leave it at that
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    Bcaas as a supplement only truly have one effective purpose: To preserve the storage of muscle glycogen. You would only need that preservation with the following: 2-4hrs of moderate to intense exercise, lower carb diet where glycogen levels deplete faster or you forgot your Gatorade on the basketball court.
    I guess its safe to say you haven't used BCAAs long enough to truly understand their potential

    During workout the most important thing is Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAAs). People who claim they don't get results from them simply don't take enough. A 200 pound man should take 40 grams of BCAAs during a workout. I also add 9 grams of Carnosine. My athletes might go through 40 or 50 capsules per workout. We just dump about fifty capsules in a bottle and make sure they're all gone by the end of the workout. I find that to be very anabolic.

    Most people who try this protocol break their plateaus right away. BCAAs have a host of research-supported benefits including preventing catabolism, stimulating anabolism, lowering DOMS, and providing endurance, energy, and an increased rate of recovery. Military personnel in many countries now receive BCAA solutions to prevent mental fatigue during maneuvers.

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    Originally Posted by Olympia2018 View Post
    That’s right bcaas digest in like 5 mins? How would this compare to having egg whites an hour and a half before working out and doing my isolate after I workout, would I still benefit from bcaas during? Thanks
    The beauty of BCAAs is that they're instantly available for use. Whole foods take time to digest and this is why they don't serve much of a purpose prior and or during training

    Most here will argue about timing their protein and aminos, but most don't have the same goals
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