Trump vetoes colossal $740 billion defense bill

[OPGenesis]

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[OptimistPrime11]

Do you even care what congress(bipartisanly) just tried to pass that Trump veto'd? How are we not on the same side of this is fukking amazing lmao. You truly dont give AF about the country as a whole, just your half.

Amazes me. If this was any leftists Dem saying what Trump did yesterday about the stim bill while saying Americans need MORE money? And today saying that the defense bill was a bloated pig?

Leftists would be singing his praises from here to eternity.

Which proves the point I have made all along. These people don't care about America. They care about getting their own way on their own terms. No matter who it fawks over.

Period.

[OPGenesis]

Amazes me. If this was any leftists Dem saying what Trump did yesterday about the stim bill while saying Americans need MORE money? And today saying that the defense bill was a bloated pig?

Leftists would be singing his praises from here to eternity.

Which proves the point I have made all along. These people don't care about America. They care about getting their own way on their own terms. No matter who it fawks over.

Period.

People care about power.

You guys have some deluded romanticism about America like it's 1776. That America is long gone, and isn't compatible with the norms of today's world.

Get over it.

[OptimistPrime11]

He didn't have **** stolen from him. Trump acted like an idiot for 4 years, especially the last year...and lost his election. By A LOT.

You do understand that no matter what Trump did, the left and the media was going to spin the opposite against him right?

If Trump said we need to lockdown NOW (like he did) the left would have said he is a racist, scaring people, and killing American business. And they did say that.

If Trump had said everything is fine, status quo, keeps things open? They would have said he was killing Grandma.

Just admit it. Trump was put into a no win situation and was dead according to the MSM and the left no matter what happened. This was a plan probably 2-3 years in the making, and they executed it.

They won this battle. Let us see who wins the war.

[OptimistPrime11]

People care about power.

You guys have some deluded romanticism about America like it's 1776. That America is long gone, and isn't compatible with the norms of today's world.

Get over it.

I literally have no idea what your point is.

People care about power. Ok.

Romanticism like it is 1776. Ok.

How do those two things correlate?

If you mean that traditional white American people in power no longer are? At least to the extent that they were for the past 200 years? I would agree. I would say that that is not a good thing for the long term stability of the country, as we are currently seeing, but I would agree.

But I fail to see what any of that has to do with my statement that you responded to.


The facts are Trump just did 2 things in 2 days that if Obama or Biden did? They would be promoted as gods.

You lefties can't even say 'good job' Trump. And why? Because you hate Trump, hate conservatives, hate traditional American values and culture, much more than you love this country.

[ghostfacedup]

Two phucking retards right here lol.

The media was going to spin the scamdemic narrative anyway they could to manipulate public opinion. The media was at war with Trump the whole four years. The federal government were trying to have him removed from office his whole term.

You think all the ex CIA and FBI agents who work for the NYT and CNN were just going to flip that script if Drumpf prolonged the lives of some boomers who were dangling from a string?

What, you thought no boomers wouldn't have died if Orange Hitler would have taken things more seriously?

Whatever the death tally came out to be the Dems were going to strategize those numbers as "Blood on Blumpfs hands". "This happened under his watch!".

lol @ thinking Dems give any fuks about those deaths. They're just political means to an end.

And at the end of the day Trump received 11 million more votes than he did in 2016.

Gipper is rolling in his grave right now.

yup. Covid was more of a states issue anyways. Florida whooped, NY failed. These "people" are CIA puppets, all of them.

[Stizzel]

Trust me, we blew it. It should not have even been close.

It wasnt close

[128]

Trump won....


Anyone who believes differently is ignorant...

Spend five minutes researching anything other then the MSM.

Ok well if he won in your mind but is out of office by February then it won’t matter, the left betrayed the country and convinced enough retards Trump was Hitler and we needed to go back to career politicians who work for corporations and the CCP

[Weightaholic]

^^^
Even Scotty from Marketing's approval went up, and he's almost universally regarded as a hapless fckwit here.

[hackerwacker]

I literally have no idea what your point is.

People care about power. Ok.

Romanticism like it is 1776. Ok.

How do those two things correlate?

If you mean that traditional white American people in power no longer are? At least to the extent that they were for the past 200 years? I would agree. I would say that that is not a good thing for the long term stability of the country, as we are currently seeing, but I would agree.

But I fail to see what any of that has to do with my statement that you responded to.


The facts are Trump just did 2 things in 2 days that if Obama or Biden did? They would be promoted as gods.

You lefties can't even say 'good job' Trump. And why? Because you hate Trump, hate conservatives, hate traditional American values and culture, much more than you love this country.

They were in the other thread praising AOC for speaking against the bill, but still voting for it. While simultaneously badmouthing Trump for speaking against the bill, and actually vetoing it.

There is a certain sizable part of the US population would genuinely love nothing more than to see the US burn if it meant their team was king of the ash pile.

[NYPat]

Lmao Trump has less than 30 days left and he's burning the place down. He vetoed this bill because it was going to re-name military bases.

Let that sink in.




And while you're thinking about that, think about Trump telling Moscow Mitch he wants 2k for every American. I wonder if that has anything to do with Mitch congratulating president elect Biden after the electoral college votes..

[hackerwacker]

^case in point. Even when he does something good, they have to spin it so his motives are actually evil and therefore it's actually a bad thing. It's like a compulsion. Some would call it, derangement.

[OptimistPrime11]

Lmao Trump has less than 30 days left and he's burning the place down. He vetoed this bill because it was going to re-name military bases.

Let that sink in.




And while you're thinking about that, think about Trump telling Moscow Mitch he wants 2k for every American. I wonder if that has anything to do with Mitch congratulating president elect Biden after the electoral college votes..

You just can't bring yourself to say 'good job Mr President' can you?

Against every fiber of your being?

Against your religion?

Your hate for traditional America runs that strong?

Your love for the left runs that strong?

We have a name for people like you. People who are not open to all points of view.

Cult members.

[NYPat]

You just can't bring yourself to say 'good job Mr President' can you?

Against every fiber of your being?

Against your religion?

Your hate for traditional America runs that strong?

Your love for the left runs that strong?

We have a name for people like you. People who are not open to all points of view.

Cult members.

Lmfao idiot Trump vetoed this bill because it would rename military bases.. and you want me to say good job?

And the right calling anyone a cult member is beyond laughable.

[OptimistPrime11]

Lmfao idiot Trump vetoed this bill because it would rename military bases.. and you want me to say good job?

And the right calling anyone a cult member is beyond laughable.

You have absolutely no proof of that. None.

So why say it like it is 100% fact?

If you hadn't been so anti Trump for the past 5 years? Then ok what you say I might give some leeway for. But when you have been so blatantly one sided for so long?

And this is the best you can come up?

Then no. You have no credibility and neither does your statement.

It is pure Kool aid talk.

[NYPat]

You have absolutely no proof of that. None.

So why say it like it is 100% fact?

If you hadn't been so anti Trump for the past 5 years? Then ok what you say I might give some leeway for. But when you have been so blatantly one sided for so long?

And this is the best you can come up?

Then no. You have no credibility and neither does your statement.

It is pure Kool aid talk.

Holy fuking dumb.

Did you even read Trump's statement in the OP?

Additionally, the Act includes language that would require the renaming of certain military installations.

[originIsymmetry]

You do understand that no matter what Trump did, the left and the media was going to spin the opposite against him right?

If Trump said we need to lockdown NOW (like he did) the left would have said he is a racist, scaring people, and killing American business. And they did say that.

If Trump had said everything is fine, status quo, keeps things open? They would have said he was killing Grandma.

Just admit it. Trump was put into a no win situation and was dead according to the MSM and the left no matter what happened. This was a plan probably 2-3 years in the making, and they executed it.

They won this battle. Let us see who wins the war.

If Trump had legit reasons for vetoing these bills, then fine let's discuss it. But he has been too busy golfing and watching Fox news to participate in the negotiations in congress to let them know what he wanted / didn't want in the bills. He has been completely MIA and incoherent policy wise, and then he jumps in for the first time AFTER the negotiations are long over.

Case in point: all of the things he is pointing to as reasons for vetoing the government funding bill WERE IN HIS OWN WHITE HOUSES REQUEST TO CONGRESS FOR FUNDING. Let that sink in.

It's fake populism to rile up idiots, borne of Trump's temper tantrum after losing. Next time, find a populist figure who actually can be bothered to put in the legislative work and engage with congress upfront and have clear priorities. You have to care about actual policy, and Trump clearly doesn't.

These bills aren't perfect, but they are the business of governing and need to pass. Trump is just crapping in the pool to assuage his own ego, as usual. The public good has nothing to do with it.

[OptimistPrime11]

If Trump had legit reasons for vetoing these bills, then fine let's discuss it. But he has been too b

Busy golfing and watching Fox news to participate in the negotiations in congress to let them know what he wanted / didn't want in the bills. He has been completely MIA and incoherent policy wise, and then he jumps in for the first time AFTER the negotiations are long over.

It's fake populism to rile up idiots, borne of Trump's temper tantrum after losing. Next time, find a populist figure who actually can be bothered to put in the legislative work and engage with congress upfront. You have to care about actual policy, and Trump clearly doesn't.

Being the narcissist that Trump is, I have no doubt that some of what you said played a part in it.

But, I also know he is a patriot. Is not a globalist. And genuinely cares about America. So I believe that also played a big part in what he has done the past 2 days. I mean he has stated in interviews from 25 years ago how he feels about America.

And I absolutely cannot say that about 99% of the rest of American politicians.

[BullittEV]

Lmao Trump has less than 30 days left and he's burning the place down. He vetoed this bill because it was going to re-name military bases.

Let that sink in.

You took out one reason, of many, and you try to pass that off as the sole reason for veto'ing the bill? You really are a scumbag lol

[gixxer0.6g]

Swamp still can't control him even after rigging an election

[chaunce54]

They are brainwashed dude. Go research project mockingbird. They aren't even people anymore, great them as such.

lol, he was curb stomping Biden before they called "timeout" at 2AM so they could fix it...

[OptimistPrime11]

Holy fuking dumb.

Did you even read Trump's statement in the OP?

Yes I know what it said. And you picked one item out of 6 to harp on.

Pretty disingenuous. Plus for Trump? It is a pretty big point of contention. He is against the destruction of traditional American culture, and renaming bases for SJW reasons does that. It may not mean much to you. But it does to a lot of people. So to pick that as the ONE and ONLY reason he did this is nit picking x 1000000.

[BullittEV]

Yes I know what it said. And you picked one item out of 6 to harp on.

Pretty disingenuous. Plus for Trump? It is a pretty big point of contention. He is against the destruction of traditional American culture, and renaming bases for SJW reasons does that. It may not mean much to you. But it does to a lot of people. So to pick that as the ONE and ONLY reason he did this is nit picking x 1000000.

It's not nitpicking, it's off the charts sleazy.

That's like a defense lawyer leaving out murder, rape, assault and battery and claiming the defendant should only get 6 months for jaywalking.

[Mr Beer]

I'm not going to pretend to know what is and isn't in this Bill but a stimulus Bill shouldn't have to be 6K pages in length nor should it have irrelevant crap about renaming military bases in it. The way the US passes laws is fukking retarded.

[BullittEV]

I'm not going to pretend to know what is and isn't in this Bill but a stimulus Bill shouldn't have to be 6K pages in length nor should it have irrelevant crap about renaming military bases in it. The way the US passes laws is fukking retarded.

Theres only one reason to do that, because they dont want people to read it. That in and of itself is cause for alarm. The fact that it passed congress is also alarming.

[Trapstar4.4]

That's my President!!

For about 27 more days lol

[icetrauma]

Theres only one reason to do that, because they dont want people to read it. That in and of itself is cause for alarm. The fact that it passed congress is also alarming.

And the ACA was worse. You have to pass it to see what's in it. smh

[SWDeath]

Holy fuking dumb.

Did you even read Trump's statement in the OP?

Weird excuse, but as usual you people are petty and embarrassing.

"President Donald Trump has vetoed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) because it fails to remove Section 230—the liability shield that protects social media companies, among other reasons.

“Unfortunately, the Act fails to include critical national security measures, includes provisions that fail to respect our veterans and our military’s history, and contradicts efforts by my Administration to put America first in our national security and foreign policy actions,” he said in a Dec. 23 statement. “It is a ‘gift’ to China and Russia.”

bUt BuT buT muH miLItAry baSes... right?

Have another breakdown.

[rhadam]

Lmfao idiot Trump vetoed this bill because it would rename military bases.. and you want me to say good job?

And the right calling anyone a cult member is beyond laughable.

Are you really this retarded?

[clivesbigbiceps]

Love our president defunding the military and pardoning child killers, America is truly great once again.