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    why was Mahomes not a top prospect?

    and the consensus #1 overall pick when he came out of school?

    watching his highlights and dude looks literally like he is playing now. what was it?
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    They play in a potato conference where nobody plays defense so it's hard to tell how good he really was.
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    Because Watson did more impressive things in bigger games. He was still a top 3 QB prospect
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    Bigger question is why the fuk did the Bears think Trubisky was better than Watson.
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    Bigger question is why the fuk did the Bears think Trubisky was better than Watson.
    Even bigger question is why the fuk does mbison still think Trubisky is better than Watson.
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    He was an air raid QB. A lot of those QBs don't pan out well in the NFL. He also had a bunch of mechanical throwing issues. Just to be clear, he still has those issues, more like he is so physically gifted it doesn't matter.
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    He played reckless at tech, I think he led the nation in dropped picks or something like that
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    I remember first hearing the Chiefs moved up to 10 in that draft and instantly knew it was to grab a QB

    I dont remember really being disappointed when Mahomes name was called but I do remember being completely shocked Reid didnt go with Watson instead




    It does seem like the actual team scouts and GMs were much higher on Mahomes than any of the network draft analysts and insiders realized tho
    A lot has leaked and trickled out on how the Chiefs especially tried to hide their enthusiasm on him leading up to the draft

    I don't think they attended his pro day and I also don't think they interviewed him at the combine either

    But it does seem like every coach or GM has a story on how they were gonna draft him but it didnt work out..
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    Originally Posted by *****fasho View Post
    I know a guy who knows a guy who apparently was in some football camp with him years ago, and the guy said he kinda sucked back then. Super vague I know, but supposedly he was very raw. He even said himself that he just learned how to read a defense last year.
    even tyres hill said his redshirt season Hill was like really we traded up to draft this dude???

    Never underestimate how much that year behind Smith helped Mahomes.
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    projecting 20 year old kids is hard and a lot of experts can't actually predict anything with these guys. i heard all day and night how great sam darnold was gonna be and the same jets fans are crying and begging because they won a game last week and he might come back now instead of trevor lawrence
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    this was PFF's analysis, honestly they kind of nailed it. even his "weaknesses" are still apparent, except he's turned all those things into strengths in the nfl. it was basically just that he was a chaotic gunslinger and there were questions about him adjusting to the nfl coming out of tech's spread offense. i think there's always a tendency to take skill position stats from texas tech with a grain of salt, you see a ton of video game numbers with them over the years. they still had him in the mix with trubisky, watson and kizer as a clear group of top 4 QBs though.

    What he does best:

    • Smooth, whip release with power and touch.
    • Arm is special and may define the term “arm talent.”
    • Can make any throw with accuracy and power to and level/area of the field, from every type of platform and arm angle.
    • Incredibly instinctive, intuitive player with a good feel for passing game.
    • Athletic in the pocket with ability to make rushers miss, or shed with strength.
    • Anticipates well. Time from locating receiver to ball out of his hand is extremely quick.
    • Overall has good vision and ability to see multiple defenders in his reads.
    • Poise to make any throw no matter what the chaos is around him in the pocket.
    • Plays outside of the structure of the offense as well as anyone in the NFL does right now.
    • Gritty playmaker. Wants the ball in his hands and delivers when his team needs it most.

    Biggest concerns:

    • Plays undisciplined too often.
    • Inconsistent footwork, loses his base but tends to make up for it with his arm.
    • Tendency to drift in the pocket in all directions when it’s not necessary.
    • Bad habit of breaking from clean pockets too early when the pass rush dictates him to stay in there.
    • Forces too many throws and tries for the hero play too often.
    • Steep learning curve coming from the Texas Tech spread/wide open system.

    Bottom line:

    Mahomes is as interesting as a prospect as there is at quarterback that comes with high risk/high reward. His arm is as good as any quarterback in the NFL playing right now. The natural passing instincts as far as sliding and feeling pass-rushers in the pocket, to seeing in front of the throw and adjusting to the type of throw needed, is special. His lack of discipline in the pocket with footwork, bailing on clean pockets, and decision making is a big concern. Some of the bailing on pockets can be attributed to how much “rush three drop eight into coverage” he saw, which can lead to playing outside of structure to find passing lanes more often. Coming from a system with everything so spread out and defined passing lanes, there will be an adjustment period needed for the NFL game and seeing tighter throwing lanes. Mahomes is not likely a Day 1 starter in the NFL but is certainly worth a first-round selection as a potential big hit as a franchise quarterback.
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    Originally Posted by Madvillainy View Post
    this was PFF's analysis, honestly they kind of nailed it. even his "weaknesses" are still apparent, except he's turned all those things into strengths in the nfl. it was basically just that he was a chaotic gunslinger and there were questions about him adjusting to the nfl coming out of tech's spread offense. i think there's always a tendency to take skill position stats from texas tech with a grain of salt, you see a ton of video game numbers with them over the years. they still had him in the mix with trubisky, watson and kizer as a clear group of top 4 QBs though.

    What he does best:

    • Smooth, whip release with power and touch.
    • Arm is special and may define the term “arm talent.”
    • Can make any throw with accuracy and power to and level/area of the field, from every type of platform and arm angle.
    • Incredibly instinctive, intuitive player with a good feel for passing game.
    • Athletic in the pocket with ability to make rushers miss, or shed with strength.
    • Anticipates well. Time from locating receiver to ball out of his hand is extremely quick.
    • Overall has good vision and ability to see multiple defenders in his reads.
    • Poise to make any throw no matter what the chaos is around him in the pocket.
    • Plays outside of the structure of the offense as well as anyone in the NFL does right now.
    • Gritty playmaker. Wants the ball in his hands and delivers when his team needs it most.

    Biggest concerns:

    • Plays undisciplined too often.
    • Inconsistent footwork, loses his base but tends to make up for it with his arm.
    • Tendency to drift in the pocket in all directions when it’s not necessary.
    • Bad habit of breaking from clean pockets too early when the pass rush dictates him to stay in there.
    • Forces too many throws and tries for the hero play too often.
    • Steep learning curve coming from the Texas Tech spread/wide open system.

    Bottom line:

    Mahomes is as interesting as a prospect as there is at quarterback that comes with high risk/high reward. His arm is as good as any quarterback in the NFL playing right now. The natural passing instincts as far as sliding and feeling pass-rushers in the pocket, to seeing in front of the throw and adjusting to the type of throw needed, is special. His lack of discipline in the pocket with footwork, bailing on clean pockets, and decision making is a big concern. Some of the bailing on pockets can be attributed to how much “rush three drop eight into coverage” he saw, which can lead to playing outside of structure to find passing lanes more often. Coming from a system with everything so spread out and defined passing lanes, there will be an adjustment period needed for the NFL game and seeing tighter throwing lanes. Mahomes is not likely a Day 1 starter in the NFL but is certainly worth a first-round selection as a potential big hit as a franchise quarterback.
    yea they pretty much nailed his biggest concerns which are still prevalent
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