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    Pay your "fair share" in taxes

    What does this mean? Why does person X who pays less tax than person Y get to accuse person Y of not paying their "fair share"?
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    Fair share is entirely subjective and clever phrasing.

    If everyone is equal we would assume everyone paid the same amount in taxes. That is not the case.

    We could also assume everyone would pay the same certain % in taxes. That is also not the case.

    What we instead have is a system where the more you make the more you pay, both percentage wise and monetarily wise.

    The rich get screwed when it comes to taxes.
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    I think the government should only exist to pay for protection against property and against violence.

    Everything else should be privatized. So whatever it costs to pay for that chit.
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    well considering taxes are theft, our fair share = 0
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    Person X is a brainlet that does not understand basic finance. To them everyone should be stuck in the same chitty life as them because they make no effort and dont give a fuk about their life they expect everyone else should be required the same.

    Agree with Bradford privatize it all, minimal taxes to protect the country's property and infrastructure. Social Security is the biggest fukkin scam (terrible returns srs) on earth but if it didnt exist the brainlets would have zero savings smh
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    I think its a pretty complex equation with so many variables. As someone who pays relatively a lot in taxes per year....I used to be of the mind set that "everyone should just pay the same percentage, and if you make more you end up paying more but its the same percentage"

    Now a days, I dont think it can be as simple as that. Reason being, there are people that are living right on the verge of poverty. You raise their taxes by .5 percent and they cant afford that next box of cheerios for Bobby.

    Raise that on someone like me, yes that would suck, but I'll live.

    I am ok with a progressive tax. What I am not ok with is paying into a inefficient / poorly managed system.
    Id love it if my taxes went to improvements for all and my money were used efficiently as I use it.
    Problem is, this is not the case.
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    It means to use as many tax avoidance / deferral strategies as you can and to pay as little as legally possible
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    Originally Posted by Destor View Post
    It means to use as many tax avoidance / deferral strategies as you can and to pay as little as legally possible
    That's human nature and I pay people to figure these things out for me. I sleep at night as I dont make the rules....I am just a cog in that wheel.
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    Originally Posted by notbadnotbrad View Post
    I think the government should only exist to pay for protection against property and against violence.

    Everything else should be privatized. So whatever it costs to pay for that chit.
    So you want to hand back your healthcare, utilities and roads?
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    Fuk if I know. My income tax bill is sometimes around $48K/year.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    So you want to hand back your healthcare, utilities and roads?
    I dunno man - you’re probably more well versed in this than I am. I’m just making broad statements without having looked into it. Maybe healthcare should be universal (moral debate about it being a human right) but couldn’t private contractors build the roads?

    Also healthcare in Canada is pretty slow - like 8 hour wait times for emergency at the hospital. I think privatizing it would improve the quality of service. Plus insurance companies exist.
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    I think it should be 10% across the board.
    Duly noted
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    Crab mentality. Every fat person playing as person X needs to double down on their taxes.
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    I really don’t look down on white collar crime like tax evasion unless you’re a rich wall street banker and steal from the working/middle/upper middle class srs.

    If you’re embezzling from big corporations I even encourage it, like in office space.
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    Originally Posted by JeepBruh View Post
    Fair share is entirely subjective and clever phrasing.

    If everyone is equal we would assume everyone paid the same amount in taxes. That is not the case.

    We could also assume everyone would pay the same certain % in taxes. That is also not the case.

    What we instead have is a system where the more you make the more you pay, both percentage wise and monetarily wise.

    The rich get screwed when it comes to taxes.
    Wealth taxes. If you're productive, you owe more. If you have a bigger house, you owe more. Completely arbitrary to what is actually owed in a fair tax system.
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    I have no clue but my last paycheck had 40% taken out of it including medical, dental, etc.

    I think I pay enough


    At least I want my State taxes given back. They tax the chit out of me and they have the most horse chit roads.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    So you want to hand back your healthcare, utilities and roads?
    Abso-****ing-lutely.

    Government handles those things so inefficiently its a mother fukin joke.

    You really have no clue of the extent to which our government wastes our tax dollars do you? If you did, you wouldn't have made that comment.

    Private can do all those things more efficiently and FAR cheaper.
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    If you believe that citizens should pay taxes (and that taxes arent theft), then, IMO, a flat tax rate is maybe more more , but I dont know what that rate should be. Not smart enough to know what it is. This way, not everyone pays the same amount of $$ but we all pay the same rate. Its kind of ridiculous to say that "You must pay 25% of your income because you make more while poor people pay only 5% because they are poor." That's how you encourage tax fraud and/or force the rich people out of the country.
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    -Would have to SPECIFICALLY allow deductions for hardships like single parents, families with special needs etc

    Would work if you SPECIFICALLY eliminated loopholes, gov lobbying for deductions that help only the rich, exempt a certain people below a specified segment of the wage earning population
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    Pretty easy to understand, everyone pays the same percentage of their income.

    Anything else should be considered criminal. Serious.
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    Originally Posted by rgnx View Post
    Abso-****ing-lutely.

    Government handles those things so inefficiently its a mother fukin joke.

    You really have no clue of the extent to which our government wastes our tax dollars do you? If you did, you wouldn't have made that comment.

    Private can do all those things more efficiently and FAR cheaper.
    I agree, I had a state job and the waste is amazing. The problem is that they do not want to save money. They are in a use it or lose it situation, so they will spend money without giving two chits just so they can get more. Plus the union protects all the loser waste that just sit around all day and do nothing. I swear you could get rid of at least 50% of the government work force and get the same result. This is just speaking from personal experience. Things could be different elsewhere.
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    Fair share of taxes = fancy term for communism.
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    Strong lmfao @ sanderscels and other Communist scum unironically making this argument.

    Muh top 5% paid more than all other brackets combined.



    Meanwhile top 1% of households contain precisely the same amount of overall wealth as 20 years ago.



    Communist plebs want to argue that because the most wealthy man is 50x richer than he was 20 years ago that it is completely unimportnat that the average man is only 20x richer than he was 20 years ago.

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    Originally Posted by tank2003 View Post
    Cons:
    -Increases burdens on poverty level people. Currently, On like 50% of Citizens actually pay federal taxes so under flat taxes, people like single parents and whatnot would actually have to pay taxes rather than NOT pay or GET paid
    I fail to see the problem with this. Everybody should pay something.
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    One time I had a summer job for my local municipality and they told me to slow down on working hard because I’d run out of work.

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    I'm not opposed to funding roads, schools, fire depts, etc. But please tell me how much of the money I earned should be taken from me by force and given to someone who didn't earn it.
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    Usually the people whining about others not paying their fair share are usually not paying a single dime themselves.
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    Originally Posted by notbadnotbrad View Post
    One time I had a summer job for my local municipality and they told me to slow down on working hard because I’d run out of work.

    City workers are fuking hilarious. I remember there were these guys and they’d have a room where they watch tv and drink beers and be on call for like when a tree fell down and they had to go out and remove it from blocking the road. This was in the forestry department.
    Exactly this. Government drones begin shaking uncontrollably when you tell then you've completed all of your tasks that they budgeted for 60 hours in a half a day when you showed up to work high.
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    Originally Posted by notbadnotbrad View Post
    One time I had a summer job for my local municipality and they told me to slow down on working hard because I’d run out of work.

    City workers are fuking hilarious. I remember there were these guys and they’d have a room where they watch tv and drink beers and be on call for like when a tree fell down and they had to go out and remove it from blocking the road. This was in the forestry department.
    I had a summer job for the city when I was a youngen, I got in trouble for staying late one day.
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    Originally Posted by JeepBruh View Post
    Fair share is entirely subjective and clever phrasing.

    If everyone is equal we would assume everyone paid the same amount in taxes. That is not the case.

    We could also assume everyone would pay the same certain % in taxes. That is also not the case.

    What we instead have is a system where the more you make the more you pay, both percentage wise and monetarily wise.

    The rich get screwed when it comes to taxes.
    This depends on how rich you are. The ultra wealthy pay no taxes.
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    Ironically fair share means almost exactly opposite of what they think it means. The poor don't pay their fair share.
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