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    If You Are A Skinnyfat NonLifter Do You Cut Or Bulk?

    If you are 15% of non lifting muscle

    Do you cut first? Or go straight into a bulk?
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    Start bulking, it dont make sense to cut when you got no muscle to show
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    Start bulking, it dont make sense to cut when you got no muscle to show
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    Originally Posted by CellyTech View Post
    Start lifting heavy and doing cardio 2 times per week.
    Thats legit my plan. I'm gonna throw sprints in and do a 5k once a week. Alternate outside and treadmill
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    Thats legit my plan. I'm gonna throw sprints in and do a 5k once a week. Alternate outside and treadmill
    das it mang
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    are you actually 15% though
    Somehow still managing to avoid getting 'too big'

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    Originally Posted by AlexSays View Post
    are you actually 15% though
    Yes. I look like you right now
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    Originally Posted by Ahhdonbilivit View Post
    Yes. I look like you right now
    i look like this right now
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    Originally Posted by AlexSays View Post
    i look like this right now
    lol wtf. You have a chiselled face but a skinnyfat body

    Yes I look like you, I'd say that's around 14-15%
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    Start lifting heavy and doing cardio 2 times per week.
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    lol wtf. You have a chiselled face but a skinnyfat body

    Yes I look like you, I'd say that's around 14-15%
    That's not a skinnyfat body.
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    Thats legit my plan. I'm gonna throw sprints in and do a 5k once a week. Alternate outside and treadmill
    Don't do the 5k if you want to build muscle, also don't take advice from no-avis
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    Just do what you think is optimal. You can literally build muscle and burn fat at the same time because of the way cell signaling works. Cliffs are that AMPK, the sensor that signals when a cell has run out of ATP (its all ADP) does not inhibit protein synthesis (does not diengage mTOR) when the alpha-2 isoform is activated, which is the exercise variant. The starvation variant, AMPK alpha-1, does interrupt anabolic signaling (mTOR). Which is relevant for intermittent fasting and cancer reduction/prevention. https://suppversity.blogspot.com/201...ittent_30.html
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    Don't do the 5k if you want to build muscle, also don't take advice from no-avis
    5k isn't detrimental to gains. It's not long enough. I will still lift like 5 days a week but I value my endurance and cardio now. I also want to work on my mobility
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    That's not a skinnyfat body.
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    Just do what you think is optimal. You can literally build muscle and burn fat at the same time because of the way cell signaling works. Cliffs are that AMPK, the sensor that signals when a cell has run out of ATP (its all ADP) does not inhibit protein synthesis (does not diengage mTOR) when the alpha-2 isoform is activated, which is the exercise variant. The starvation variant, AMPK alpha-1, does interrupt anabolic signaling (mTOR). Which is relevant for intermittent fasting and cancer reduction/prevention. [ur[/url]
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    I did a cut immediately. Noob gains + getting chiseled made people ask if i used juice.
    Transformed my body in 6 months to ripped with six pack and good hard muscle.

    But the misc is a fan of bulking even though unless you're on juice, all it mostly does is make you fat.
    And then it takes forever to get rid of all that excess fat whilst losing the little extra muscle mass you gained over if you'd start off with a cut. So the end result is probably the same once your cut is finished, except it takes a lot longer.
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    eat enough to recover and make progress on the bar but dont bulk

    fine tune this (lower carb or lower fat might make you feel better depends on individual factors) and you should see a lot of gains anyways because of your untrained body

    if possible even eat at a slight deficit to cut even - if you do that make sure you have good recovery from a good sleep schedule
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    I did a cut immediately. Noob gains + getting chiseled made people ask if i used juice.
    Transformed my body in 6 months to ripped with six pack and good hard muscle.

    But the misc is a fan of bulking even though unless you're on juice, all it mostly does is make you fat.
    And then it takes forever to get rid of all that excess fat whilst losing the little extra muscle mass you gained over if you'd start off with a cut. So the end result is probably the same once your cut is finished, except it takes a lot longer.
    Mirin

    Well, you gotta bulk to make gains brah. I'm not gonna let myself go and get fat but I definitely do want to put on some decent size and be able to fill out clothes again nicely. I'm 5'11 and when I was 200lbs I looked really juicy in clothing. But if I was as chiselled as you were I wouldn't be able to have looked as good in clothing

    I'll be comfortable with a nice 14%-15% bodyfat at 200lbs again
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    Thats like 14-15%
    I'd say a bit lower than that but OK.
    But that's not the definition of skinnyfat.
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    5k isn't detrimental to gains. It's not long enough. I will still lift like 5 days a week but I value my endurance and cardio now. I also want to work on my mobility
    Whatever you say, you'll probably make no gains either way and be back making this same thread in a few months
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    Originally Posted by Ahhdonbilivit View Post
    Thats like 14-15%
    Yes around that. But being 14-15% is not the same thing as being skinny fat...? Skinny fat is a specific thing, not just "not being 10% shredded"



    That is an example of skinny fat.
    Somehow still managing to avoid getting 'too big'

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    Originally Posted by wave_length View Post
    I'd say a bit lower than that but OK.
    But that's not the definition of skinnyfat.
    Anything above 13% is getting towards "fat" in my opinion, and that's not a shot because I'm aiming for 200lbs again at around 14-15%
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    Originally Posted by AlexSays View Post
    Yes around that. But being 14-15% is not the same thing as being skinny fat...? Skinny fat is a specific thing, not just "not being 10% shredded"

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    That is an example of skinny fat.
    Fukin gross. I've never looked like this in my life.

    I get your point though
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    Originally Posted by Ahhdonbilivit View Post
    Fukin gross. I've never looked like this in my life.

    I get your point though
    Then what do you look like?
    Somehow still managing to avoid getting 'too big'

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    Originally Posted by AlexSays View Post
    Then what do you look like?
    I look like you (srs).

    I think the example you posted is extreme skinnyfat.

    I feel skinny and fat compared to what I was before. Its all relative I guess
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    You lift heavy and eat a lot, but clean. Low or zero carbs, high fat, medium protein. You can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, especially as a newb.
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    Originally Posted by Ahhdonbilivit View Post
    Mirin

    Well, you gotta bulk to make gains brah.
    You really don't. Especially not if you're beginning. My muscles increased in size, my strength went up, while i got chiseled.
    But suit yourself.
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