This dude put on 30lbs in 1 year

[blissful88]

Can't take away the work dude put in that's freakish

I've watched people put on 20lbs+ lean mass in a year on base OJ.. while skipping entire weeks of training


All you have to do is eat and you'll surpass a natural, anyone that tells you otherwise is lying to save face because they too have a bike given physique and don't want to downplay their progress mentally.

[Jestbrah]

I've watched people put on 20lbs+ lean mass in a year on base OJ.. while skipping entire weeks of training


All you have to do is eat and you'll surpass a natural, anyone that tells you otherwise is lying to save face because they too have a bike given physique and don't want to downplay their progress mentally.

but this guy wasnt a natty or near a beginner in the first pic, and if you put 1000 people on gear somewhere between 0-2 of them will end up looking like guy in OP pic "after". Gear +gym+food does not make you look like that, it takes a lot more knowledge hard work and discipline ontop of gear to look like that. If it was as simple as take gear, eat some protein, and lift somewhat regularly and look like OP pic guy, then almost half the people at all gyms would look like that.

[blissful88]

but this guy wasnt a natty or near a beginner in the first pic, and if you put 1000 people on gear somewhere between 0-2 of them will end up looking like guy in OP pic "after". Gear +gym+food does not make you look like that, it takes a lot more knowledge hard work and discipline ontop of gear to look like that. If it was as simple as take gear, eat some protein, and lift somewhat regularly and look like OP pic guy, then almost half the people at all gyms would look like that.

I'm not doubting the guy in the OP, his stack was obviously $10-15k to make the progress he did while being so advanced in mass already

I've seen gear change lives in months, I've seen it make marginal progress in years, depends on the person's choices


How many of said people will eat enough, train consistently, rest when needed, and cycle off properly?

2/100 like most gym rats



OJ slides right around your genetic predisposition and laughs while your anteriors become bloated softballs

The great equalizer.. and the great downfall

[Pumpinmirin]

Before pic is a swoler version of me srs. Same insertions and bellies, similar face and facial hair tendencies. Could be my older brother.

Mirin my potential srs.

[WinningBrah]

He just tanmaxxed and hairmaxxed, that's all

[lawlessly]

Same thing happened to me when I was using drugs then sobered up. Went from 130-170 in a year.

Only makes sense to assume he cleaned up also

[elterrible987]

look at the change in size and shape of his head between the two pics.

[elterrible987]

I addressed this in post 30

Gearheads often get a fat, aging head. Makes me lol

nobody cares what alts have to say

[Kewbrah]

Looks like he just got a tan and moved closer to the camera

[atgbrahsrs]

he looks older because:

1)stupid ass haircut went from youthful haircut to 40yr old man haircut
2) more facial hair, usually ages men
3) hes obviously about 5% bf leaner and at about 7-8% bf which you only get to at that stage by tons of cardio and starving yourself.

Enjoy red club dumbass

I agree that OJ is not magic but your point about leanness and age is bull****.

Literally 99% people look younger and better when leaner.

[Jestbrah]

I agree that OJ is not magic but your point about leanness and age is bull****.

Literally 99% people look younger and better when leaner.

not when they are losing sleep because of being so low calories, cortisol is high from intense training and very few calories, body is in starvation mode due to sheer muscle mass and calorie intake. Its one thing if a skinny twink weighing 145 looks better facially leaner but when you are talking about bodybuilders who get shredded, usually theirs other stuff going on that will make their face look "aged"