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    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    Understanding the first, will facilitate the the second.
    How so when we have been doing the second for thousands of years before the first? We were doing pretty well in society before trusting in evolution.
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    How so when we have been doing the second for thousands of years before the first? We were doing pretty well in society before trusting in evolution.
    You don't generally come across as stupid, so I'd like you to take a moment and think about how humanity has changed in the last 100 years. How has civilization changed, how has life expectancy changed? What could possibly be driving those changes?

    Let me give you a hint, it isn't believe in forgiveness
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    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    You don't generally come across as stupid, so I'd like you to take a moment and think about how humanity has changed in the last 100 years. How has civilization changed, how has life expectancy changed? What could possibly be driving those changes?

    Let me give you a hint, it isn't believe in forgiveness
    that guy has made like 20+ threads about the earth being flat.
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    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    You don't generally come across as stupid, so I'd like you to take a moment and think about how humanity has changed in the last 100 years. How has civilization changed, how has life expectancy changed? What could possibly be driving those changes?

    Let me give you a hint, it isn't believe in forgiveness
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    Originally Posted by AltarOfPlagues View Post
    that guy has made like 20+ threads about the earth being flat.
    I think OP can defend his understanding on the earth being a sphere but can you?
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    I think OP can defend his understanding on the earth being a sphere but can you?
    yes i have adopted a framework of learning wherein i have a certain level of trust in the continuum that is "global human knowledge" as such. i was taught as a young boy that the earth is round. the older i got, the more i learned about the physics of celestial bodies and indeed structure in the universe (galaxies).

    my framework is always reinforced and altered incrementally by the new knowledge that i gain from other sources.

    there are some people who believe they cannot trust knowledge from a source beyond their own precepts. they have adopted this weird framework from sources beyond their own precepts. take you. you dont believe a first grade science text book, but you do believe a youtube video. they are the same "types" of information, but you give one credence because you are a dupe.
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    Captailism?
    You're also a flat Earther?

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    Before we proceed, I need answers to the following questions.

    1. What shape is the Earth?
    2. How long has the Earth been here?
    3. How long have humans been here?
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    Originally Posted by AltarOfPlagues View Post
    yes i have adopted a framework of learning wherein i have a certain level of trust in the continuum that is "global human knowledge" as such. i was taught as a young boy that the earth is round. the older i got, the more i learned about the physics of celestial bodies and indeed structure in the universe (galaxies).

    my framework is always reinforced and altered incrementally by the new knowledge that i gain from other sources.

    there are some people who believe they cannot trust knowledge from a source beyond their own precepts. they have adopted this weird framework from sources beyond their own precepts. take you. you dont believe a first grade science text book, but you do believe a youtube video. they are the same "types" of information, but you give one credence because you are a dupe.
    I'm not sure you have the ability to determine what I believe and understand, unless you're one of those wizards I heard about from a youtube video (sarcasm)

    However, I do think scepticism is a healthy attribute to the survival of our species, i think scepticism has done more for our kind than blind trust.

    I dont want to derail ops thread, this thread was meant to discuss why someone wouldn't believe in evolution, and I believe it's because people have adapted to cling on to what benefits their immediate life and well being.

    If you want to continue to bash religion for being the reason people dont trust in evolution go for it, but understand there can be multiple factors.
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    Before we proceed, I need answers to the following questions.

    1. What shape is the Earth?
    2. How long has the Earth been here?
    3. How long have humans been here?
    If you want to start a thread talking about flat earth I will meet you in there, but maybe we could respect OP and his thread?
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    Evidence suggests that groups IQ differs significantly, that IQ is inherited, and that genetics does mean a lot when it comes to IQ. Which is actually what we would expect if the evolution model were true, so why the inconsistency?



    It does not make sense in light of evolution to talk about how all groups are equal. Just admit you only do it because of ideology. If we were talking about differences in breeds of dog you would be objective.
    I mean the concept of IQ is silly in the first place, so I’m responding to things that wouldn’t have much meaning to me, even if they were true. Your response does not really address the point of environment and culture that was brought up- IQ being inherited and having a generic basis, even if true, does not mean disparity between populations cannot be due to those environmental or cultural differences. Actual controlled, randomized experiments here (say, taking two people from different populations and having them grow up in an enclosed situation, to then batter them with IQ tests) is completely unethical, and would not be done.

    There is no reason for me to reinvent the wheel, this topic is discussed at length elsewhere (lots of sources in this article on wiki):

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

    Again, we are talking about a topic (IQ) that I think is silly in the first place. Of note, you did not answer the question if you subscribe to the basic premise of evolution and humans sharing common ancestors with other extant apes, which actually is a matter of basic, grade school science.
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    If you want to start a thread talking about flat earth I will meet you in there, but maybe we could respect OP and his thread?
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    If you want to continue to bash religion for being the reason people dont trust in evolution go for it, but understand there can be multiple factors.
    thank you, i will go for it. i do believe there can be multiple factors, like an inability to operate in a (socially) consistent and workable reality (schizophrenia) or traumatic brain injury.
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    Your answers to the questions will dictate how I deal with you in this thread going forward.
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    Your answers to the questions will dictate how I deal with you in this thread going forward.
    My understanding tends to fall inline with ancient hermetic philosophy and I tend to agree with their 7 laws of nature. All of their laws play a role in my understanding of the universe and world we live in. I would be honored if you and OP looked into these laws and provide feedback.
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    thank you, i will go for it. i do believe there can be multiple factors, like an inability to operate in a (socially) consistent and workable reality (schizophrenia) or traumatic brain injury.
    If you think those are the only possibilities it may be time to expand your mind.
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    My understanding tends to fall inline with ancient hermetic philosophy and I tend to agree with their 7 laws of nature. All of their laws play a role in my understanding of the universe and world we live in. I would be honored if you and OP looked into these laws and provide feedback.
    Not to offend you or dearly held philosophical beliefs, but the principles of the Kybalion seem to me to be exactly the sort of wishy-washy and vacuous word play cults use to hook the naive and easily misled.

    It feels like you're getting a glimpse of some ultimate truth yet really it's a fiction your confirmation bias wills you to believe.

    What have you manifested into existence through the law of attraction that wasn't merely a coincidence?
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    Not to offend you or dearly held philosophical beliefs, but the principles of the Kybalion seem to me to be exactly the sort of wishy-washy and vacuous word play cults use to hook the naive and easily misled.

    It feels like you're getting a glimpse of some ultimate truth yet really it's a fiction your confirmation bias wills you to believe.

    What have you manifested into existence through the law of attraction that wasn't merely a coincidence?
    You know how I know you dont understand the hermatic philosophy? Because it teaches against ultimate truths.
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    jrtc at fort polk? idk
    A lot of roll playing and larping goes on. A lot of work goes into play on being prepared for the unthinkable. Believe it or not the unthinkable will happen, and those who had the abilities to see it in advance will be more prepared.
    Getting cranky because someone thinks differently is kinda beta.
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    You know how I know you dont understand the hermatic philosophy? Because it teaches against ultimate truths.
    I meant to write "universal truth", which the seven principles appear to be all about.

    I wrote that comment in passing and am not so steeped in spirituality that the difference between universal and ultimate is immediately obvious.

    You didn't answer my question though, instead using my ignorance to conveniently evade it. What have you manifested through the law of attraction?
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    Originally Posted by 2am View Post
    I meant to write "universal truth", which the seven principles appear to be all about.

    I wrote that comment in passing and am not so steeped in spirituality that the difference between universal and ultimate is immediately obvious.

    You didn't answer my question though, instead using my ignorance to conveniently evade it. What have you manifested through the law of attraction?
    Where did I take a stance for the law of attraction?
    None of the 7 laws of nature in the kybalion say anything about the law of attraction
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    Where did I take a stance for the law of attraction?
    I inferred it. That's where you draw the line then?
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    I inferred it. That's where you draw the line then?
    In a way I do believe you reap what you sow, and what you put into the universe will eventually come around. I think its important to put positive things into the world, but I also understand their also needs to be negative things to complete the circuit.
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    yeah right gif.
    Just a cursory look through your post history shows that you're a pretty heavy-duty Christian, and flat Earther. I'd be willing to bet that given a deeper examination that there are plenty of young-Earth posts in there as well. I'm going to call any opinion you may hold of any scientific nature, to be null and void. You are to be from this moment shunned.

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    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post
    Just a cursory look through your post history shows that you're a pretty heavy-duty Christian, and flat Earther. I'd be willing to bet that given a deeper examination that there are plenty of young-Earth posts in there as well. I'm going to call any opinion you may hold of any scientific nature, to be null and void. You are to be from this moment shunned.

    My belief is thousands of years older than yours, my belief produces fruit.
    My belief serves a purpose, but go on ignore me because the way I think is to hard for you to understand. Have a good day sir.
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