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    Contact the company, I'm sure they would be happy to share it
    I produced a peer reviewed study to back up my points. You want to make your own claims then the burden of proof is on you. I understand that you fail to understand time and time again how that works.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Contact the company, I'm sure they would be happy to share it
    Thank you for admitting you know the "study" referenced above does not exist
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Thank you for admitting you know the "study" referenced above does not exist
    There's a reason why you don't work in this industry, and why you have 126k posts
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    There's a reason why you don't work in this industry, and why you have 126k posts


    Thank you for admitting you know the "study" referenced above does not exist
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Thank you for admitting you know the "study" referenced above does not exist
    Why do you keep asking me to produce study results?
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    If you guys have issues with the study contact EFX

    A Double-Blind Comparative Trial of Kre-Alkalyn to Creatine in Olympic Weightlifters

    Dr. Jeff Golini, Dr. Kamen Stroychev and Dr. Neno Terziiski
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    Study Objectives

    To compare the effects of Kre-Alkalyn® and creatine monohydrate on training induced changes in strength and body composition using Olympic-level weight lifters.

    Patients and Methods

    Twenty-four healthy men from the Bulgarian National Weightlifting team were randomly assigned to ingest either, 10 capsules x 750 mg of Kre-Alkalyn® daily (Test group), or 10 capsules x 750 mg of creatine monohydrate (Control group), each day for a total of 60 days. Body weight, muscular performance (snatch, clean and jerk, high snatch, back squat) were monitored and assessed. Lifts were performed at maximum resistance for 1 repetition. Measurements were taken on baseline day and every day throughout the study according to the study schedule. Each athlete was required to maintain their normal dietary habit and training patterns during the study.

    Results

    The Kre-Alkalyn® – Test group showed an average increase in their performance level, over baseline, of 10.76% (in the snatch, clean and jerk, high snatch and back squat), compared to the Control group (8.39%, over baseline). The average increase in total lifts for the Kre-Alkalyn® – Test group was 28.25% over the Control group.

    Summary and Conclusions
    It is difficult for high-caliber Olympic-level athletes to achieve considerable improvements in their muscular performance in a short timeframe, such as a 60 day trial. However, the Kre-Alkalyn® group was able to achieve a slight, but significant, degree of improvement in their level of performance over the creatine monohydrate group, and without any untoward side effects from daily Kre-Alkalyn® administration.

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Why do you keep asking me to produce study results?
    Because you brought it up with your sock account and yet again you screwed up and started answering for it on your main account. The Internet is hard sometimes.
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    I think it is time for this thread to be closed! As for the topic Xtend got 0 votes, more love for Dymatize I guess.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    How about just sticking to the topic...
    Because while there’s not a lot of hope for you or MadFrog, it’s important that other people who come into these threads after they’ve been archived have a chance at getting valid information rather than thinking that EAAs are useful because they found them on a site with a reputable-sounding name.

    EAAs and BCAAs are simply partial proteins. If you’re getting enough protein, you don’t need them. If you aren’t getting enough protein, supplementing with them won’t overcome that more fundamental issue.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    There's a reason why you don't work in this industry, and why you have 126k posts
    And that reason is... because the industry is full of shills, and he’s posting real, clinical data.

    I can’t help but begin to believe that you actually believe the nonsense you post. It’s crazy, as I really thought you were just shilling, but... you actually believe your nonsense, don’t you?
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    Originally Posted by Corbets View Post
    And that reason is... because the industry is full of shills, and he’s posting real, clinical data.

    I can’t help but begin to believe that you actually believe the nonsense you post. It’s crazy, as I really thought you were just shilling, but... you actually believe your nonsense, don’t you?
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    The proof is in the pudding
    You're doing it wrong. All pudding comments are supposed to be from your sock accounts.
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    Because while there’s not a lot of hope for you or MadFrog, it’s important that other people who come into these threads after they’ve been archived have a chance at getting valid information rather than thinking that EAAs are useful because they found them on a site with a reputable-sounding name.

    EAAs and BCAAs are simply partial proteins. If you’re getting enough protein, you don’t need them. If you aren’t getting enough protein, supplementing with them won’t overcome that more fundamental issue.
    There is a lot of hope just gyms need to open give me email I send you before/after pics....
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    There is a lot of hope just gyms need to open give me email I send you before/after pics....
    Charles Poliquin said, 40 grams of BCAAs per day regardless of your protein intake. The best strength coach ever
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    Charles Poliquin said, 40 grams of BCAAs per day regardless of your protein intake. The best strength coach ever
    He also recommended 40g fish oils a day so I’d take anything he says with a bag of salt. That hospitalised a lad I used to work with.
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    He also recommended 40g fish oils a day so I’d take anything he says with a bag of salt. That hospitalised a lad I used to work with.
    How many gold medalist's have you produced?

    He also said fishoil is one of the most important supplements. I'll post why he feels it's so important
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    No gold medalists, granted, but also haven’t put people in hospital with my advice, so swings & roundabouts really.

    He or you wouldn’t have an argument from me re the importance of fish oil, I’m all on board with how good it is, just not at 40g a day.
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    Charles Poliquin said, 40 grams of BCAAs per day regardless of your protein intake. The best strength coach ever
    Charlie is a very good strength coach, his nutrition advice is questionable
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    Originally Posted by Jeff the Repper View Post
    Charlie is a very good strength coach, his nutrition advice is questionable
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