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    Lexus GX 460 and other SUV questions

    I'm in the market for a new ride.

    Strong preference for a 2017/18 GX 460 (I really don't like the new face lift) but I'm open to other options. My question is... how costly are these to repair? I'm looking for an SUV to last me the next 15 years with minimal maintenance/repair cost. I hear that they are reliable but want to hear what misc has to say.

    Any other suggestions for an SUV that I'm overlooking?

    What I'm looking for:
    - Reliable
    - Low tech
    - V8
    - 3 rows

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    The Lexus V8 seems like a solid option. Infiniti QX80 might also be worth looking at, or Toyota Sequoia TRD
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    Lexus' are Toyotas. #1 in the reliability game and definitely #1 in terms of being cheap to repair when it comes to luxury vehicles. Plan on paying no more than you would for ANY other car.
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    It's a good SUV. However it is based on a 4Runner and has had the same frame for a decade.

    My wife begged to test drive one last week. Thankfully she drove an X5 first and that's all she needed.

    Q80 is good but horrific gas mileage. 12 mpg. And with Biden and his climate change BS, you'll see gas prices rise again.

    I like the MDX better.
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    Originally Posted by AlBHappy View Post
    It's a good SUV. However it is based on a 4Runner and has had the same frame for a decade.

    My wife begged to test drive one last week. Thankfully she drove an X5 first and that's all she needed.

    Q80 is good but horrific gas mileage. 12 mpg. And with Biden and his climate change BS, you'll see gas prices rise again.

    I like the MDX better.
    I love the X5 50i, but it wouldn't last for 15 years with minimal maintenance probably (if the valve seal-leaking N63tu can last that long). X5 35d would be nice I think
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    Originally Posted by SouthDakotaBrah View Post
    The Lexus V8 seems like a solid option. Infiniti QX80 might also be worth looking at, or Toyota Sequoia TRD
    Love both of those options but with comparable age/miles, they're out of budget. And they are land yachts lol.
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    Originally Posted by AlBHappy View Post
    It's a good SUV. However it is based on a 4Runner and has had the same frame for a decade.

    My wife begged to test drive one last week. Thankfully she drove an X5 first and that's all she needed.

    Q80 is good but horrific gas mileage. 12 mpg. And with Biden and his climate change BS, you'll see gas prices rise again.

    I like the MDX better.
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    Lexus' are Toyotas. #1 in the reliability game and definitely #1 in terms of being cheap to repair when it comes to luxury vehicles. Plan on paying no more than you would for ANY other car.
    This is why I'm leaning towards Lexus. Decent in the luxury dept. but without BMW/Audi/Benz reliability issues.

    I had a brand new Audi A6 a few years ago. Nightmare with reliability 2 years into ownership and I don't beat my cars up either.
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    Originally Posted by Igmann View Post
    I'm in the market for a new ride.

    Strong preference for a 2017/18 GX 460 (I really don't like the new face lift) but I'm open to other options. My question is... how costly are these to repair? I'm looking for an SUV to last me the next 15 years with minimal maintenance/repair cost. I hear that they are reliable but want to hear what misc has to say.

    Any other suggestions for an SUV that I'm overlooking?

    What I'm looking for:
    - Reliable
    - Low tech
    - V8
    - 3 rows

    Thanks,
    The GX460 is old AF and the V8 is like 15yrs old. It makes like 300hp. Why not pick a newer car?
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    Originally Posted by waisoserious View Post
    The GX460 is old AF and the V8 is like 15yrs old. It makes like 300hp. Why not pick a newer car?
    What's an equally reliable modern alternative?

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    Originally Posted by Igmann View Post
    What's an equally reliable modern alternative?



    Too big
    1st Gen Sequoias are not very big. Seems like they are relatively cheap as well since they don’t seem to suffer as bad from the old Toyota tax.
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    Originally Posted by waisoserious View Post
    The GX460 is old AF and the V8 is like 15yrs old. It makes like 300hp. Why not pick a newer car?
    That means it has 15 years of proven reliability. It makes 300hp and 320 torks which is more than enough unless you want to 1) tow 8000lbs; 2) race SRTs


    OP, the GX will be the cheapest in long term when it comes to reliability and maintenance. yes they look ugly from outside, but you're not going to stand in front and stare at it for hours. Only reason not to get it is if you need something bigger like Tahoe/Yukon or you need more towing capacity.

    Also lol @ people mentioning X5 when op is concerned about reliability.
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    Originally Posted by akmerle View Post
    1st Gen Sequoias are not very big. Seems like they are relatively cheap as well since they don’t seem to suffer as bad from the old Toyota tax.
    Its like a thousand pounds heavier and tbh for the cost, not very impressive. The GX460 is on the upper limit of what I want for size.
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    Originally Posted by Jax05 View Post
    That means it has 15 years of proven reliability. It makes 300hp and 320 torks which is more than enough unless you want to 1) tow 8000lbs; 2) race SRTs


    OP, the GX will be the cheapest in long term when it comes to reliability and maintenance. yes they look ugly from outside, but you're not going to stand in front and stare at it for hours. Only reason not to get it is if you need something bigger like Tahoe/Yukon or you need more towing capacity.

    Also lol @ people mentioning X5 when op is concerned about reliability.
    Exactly, I'm not a very aggressive driver to begin with.

    I think the design on the GX is just fine. I mainly care about the utility of cars/SUVs.

    Do you think it makes sense to get one of these... 8 years old, 1 owner and impeccable service record:

    2012 Lexus GX 460
    Haldeman Lexus of Princeton
    $19,350
    (609) 912-2162
    http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/21d312c0

    OR just get a 3 year old one with about 30k miles for about $40k

    I can afford to buy the 2012 with cash but would need to finance if I'm getting the more expensive option. Anything to look out for with getting a 2012 GX 460 w that many miles?

    I prefer the styling of the 2012... has hints of Land Cruiser on the front.
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    Originally Posted by Jax05 View Post
    That means it has 15 years of proven reliability. It makes 300hp and 320 torks which is more than enough unless you want to 1) tow 8000lbs; 2) race SRTs


    OP, the GX will be the cheapest in long term when it comes to reliability and maintenance. yes they look ugly from outside, but you're not going to stand in front and stare at it for hours. Only reason not to get it is if you need something bigger like Tahoe/Yukon or you need more towing capacity.

    Also lol @ people mentioning X5 when op is concerned about reliability.
    Thats not what it means. The BMW N63 4.4 V8 has been in BMW's since 2008 and it was a turd until atleast 2018. And its still being used in their new cars.

    It just means that lexus never updated it. Also its not hard to be reliable when you are barely putting any stress on the engine at all. 300hp out of 4.6 Liters isnt some incredible feat of engineering. Its just a really really low output V8.
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    Originally Posted by Igmann View Post
    What's an equally reliable modern alternative?



    Too big
    Im not sure what your criteria is, but the GX460 is old AF. Even the interior is old. The infotainment looks like its from 2007.
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    Originally Posted by waisoserious View Post
    Thats not what it means. The BMW N63 4.4 V8 has been in BMW's since 2008 and it was a turd until atleast 2018. And its still being used in their new cars.

    It just means that lexus never updated it. Also its not hard to be reliable when you are barely putting any stress on the engine at all. 300hp out of 4.6 Liters isnt some incredible feat of engineering. Its just a really really low output V8.
    LOL if you think that is bad... my Crown Victoria gets 190 HP to the wheels on a 4.6L V8.

    Originally Posted by waisoserious View Post
    Im not sure what your criteria is, but the GX460 is old AF. Even the interior is old. The infotainment looks like its from 2007.
    Reliable
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    I like a soft cushy ride.

    The Armada is appealing too. Love the styling on it too.
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    Originally Posted by Igmann View Post
    LOL if you think that is bad... my Crown Victoria gets 190 HP to the wheels on a 4.6L V8.



    Reliable
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    I like a soft cushy ride.

    The Armada is appealing too. Love the styling on it too.
    The GX460 V8 isnt something you typically think of when you think of V8s. It doesnt really sound like a V8, especially with the stock Lexus exhaust. Its not very torquey and anything with low HP/Liter is gonna be reliable. But the V8 will drink gas like its water.

    Unless you are getting something like a 500hp V8, I would just get a newer turbo V6. They make cost less to maintain, make more power, consume less gas and are probably just as reliable.

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    How much do you want to spend is a better question. Each of those options I listed vary wildly in price.
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    Originally Posted by Igmann View Post
    Exactly, I'm not a very aggressive driver to begin with.

    I think the design on the GX is just fine. I mainly care about the utility of cars/SUVs.

    Do you think it makes sense to get one of these... 8 years old, 1 owner and impeccable service record:

    2012 Lexus GX 460
    Haldeman Lexus of Princeton
    $19,350
    (609) 912-2162
    http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/21d312c0

    OR just get a 3 year old one with about 30k miles for about $40k

    I can afford to buy the 2012 with cash but would need to finance if I'm getting the more expensive option. Anything to look out for with getting a 2012 GX 460 w that many miles?

    I prefer the styling of the 2012... has hints of Land Cruiser on the front.
    Honestly both of those are pretty good deals. I'd personally go with the newest I can afford. That gives you some warranty, usually better safety, and newer parts. No matter how reliable a car is, it will still have aging electronics. Great SUVs if you want to keep for 300k miles.


    Originally Posted by waisoserious View Post
    Also its not hard to be reliable when you are barely putting any stress on the engine at all. 300hp out of 4.6 Liters isnt some incredible feat of engineering. Its just a really really low output V8.
    that's a very weird counter argument lol

    Originally Posted by waisoserious View Post
    They make cost less to maintain, make more power, consume less gas and are probably just as reliable.

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    Originally Posted by waisoserious View Post
    The GX460 V8 isnt something you typically think of when you think of V8s. It doesnt really sound like a V8, especially with the stock Lexus exhaust. Its not very torquey and anything with low HP/Liter is gonna be reliable. But the V8 will drink gas like its water.
    It's not about the sound, it's about the power delivery and long term reliability. Understressed V8s always have the longest lifespans. The gas mileage isn't terrible for what it is... I dont drive in the city often and there are plenty of people reporting 22-24 highway miles with this suv.

    Unless you are getting something like a 500hp V8, I would just get a newer turbo V6. They make cost less to maintain, make more power, consume less gas and are probably just as reliable.
    That's just not true, turbo charged V6s will never be as reliability as NA V6s or V8s.
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    Originally Posted by Jax05 View Post
    Honestly both of those are pretty good deals. I'd personally go with the newest I can afford. That gives you some warranty, usually better safety, and newer parts. No matter how reliable a car is, it will still have aging electronics. Great SUVs if you want to keep for 300k miles.
    Valid point, I'll go with something newer then. Buy once cry once.

    Thats exactly what I do with my daily drivers. There's just not many options out there that offer long term reliability. Too much tech, too many moving parts, too many things to break. As long as I have a decent sound system, heated seats and a few other minor features, I can compromise on the other things.
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