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    the real question is are the Dutch doing it right? Or were they always super tall and were just kept down by poor diet / starvation
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    Originally Posted by monster0ultra View Post
    When I was a teen going through puberty, I drank a gallon of milk every 1-2 days, not for any bodybuilding reasons, it's just what my body craved. The theories I'm hearing ITT are that that would've estrogenized me but I ended up 6'1 with a crazy vtaper. Post puberty, weighed 185lbs and could bench 200 and deadlift 315 the first time I went to the gym.
    Milk increases T & estrogens.
    Originally Posted by phaginator View Post
    Agree, it's not the milk and dairy. Binged on that **** and had crazy high test and libido...also lots of acne though.

    Probably the various xeno estrogens like birth control...
    Yep that was me too even with the acne. American Dairy screws up ur hormones. Drink Probiotic Yogurt a true T booster
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    Signs of high T if you are calm confident, low empathy,distrusting, dominant, competitive, optimistic, generous, status seeking ect..

    Signs of high DHT: Impulsive, aggressive, short temper, natural high, violent, adrenaline, random erections, deeper voice ect..
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    Originally Posted by ipunchurgirl View Post
    Signs of high T if you are calm confident, low empathy,distrusting, dominant, competitive, optimistic, generous, status seeking ect..

    Signs of high DHT: Impulsive, aggressive, short temper, natural high, violent, adrenaline, random erections, deeper voice ect..
    There is no scientific correlation between empathy and testosterone.
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    Originally Posted by Misc420Doctor View Post
    There is no scientific correlation between empathy and testosterone.
    Here's a study

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...18506X19302077
    Oxytocin and testosterone coordinate adaptive social behaviors with stimuli in the environment. Administration of oxytocin and testosterone is associated with increased and reduced indicators of empathy, respectively(...)
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    Originally Posted by bytedude View Post
    We just ignoring this graph? Seems like there could be a correlation with chicken and lower T rates?

    I could see it as a possibility. All the men I know who prefer chicken come off as lower test.
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    Originally Posted by scythiss1 View Post
    To the people who are on TRT in the US. Lets say USA goes to ****, or some sort of civil war with everything going on, and you are now unable to get your trt, how screwed would you be? A doc gave me a prescription a year ago because I was low T, I fixed that by losing a tons of weight, fixing my diet and lifting. My levels are in the high 700’s now but I still want to take it, just concerned if things go haywire and I cant get it anymore.
    This would be my biggest fear with starting TRT. Maybe when I am in my 60s or something would I consider it.
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    Originally Posted by JeepBruh View Post
    This would be my biggest fear with starting TRT. Maybe when I am in my 60s or something would I consider it.
    You will start producing t on your own again after quitting rt. It may be lower compared to base level, but that's it.
    But probably shouldn't consider it unless someone is truly hypogonadal. Specifically primary, not just high SHBG/low gonadotropins.
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    Originally Posted by Misc420Doctor View Post
    There is no scientific correlation between empathy and testosterone.
    high estrogen does increase empathy levels.
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    Originally Posted by scythiss1 View Post
    To the people who are on TRT in the US. Lets say USA goes to ****, or some sort of civil war with everything going on, and you are now unable to get your trt, how screwed would you be? A doc gave me a prescription a year ago because I was low T, I fixed that by losing a tons of weight, fixing my diet and lifting. My levels are in the high 700’s now but I still want to take it, just concerned if things go haywire and I cant get it anymore.
    if there is a civil war, the least of your problems would be having low T, lmao.

    also, if there is a war, you can just raid a drug store.
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    Originally Posted by billyeilish View Post
    dairy causing acne is fake news.. lies spread by actual soyboys.
    mmm no, it is true dairy can cause acne but its also depending on your genetics.
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    Originally Posted by billyeilish View Post
    dairy causing acne is fake news.. lies spread by actual soyboys.
    What a stupid take
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    Originally Posted by umadbroski View Post
    if there is a civil war, the least of your problems would be having low T, lmao.

    also, if there is a war, you can just raid a drug store.

    If civil war broke out and your home got raided while being low t, it aint gonna be fun lol.
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    Originally Posted by hoganrulz View Post
    Whacking off at Instagram asses doesn't increase test

    Who knew.

    Competition, physical exertion & chasing skirts does.
    We know the environment has an impact for sure. That's why test rises when you go to prison.
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    Originally Posted by rootcon View Post
    Increased and reduced indicators of empathy.

    Sounds like you can have high or low empathy with high T lol
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    Originally Posted by scythiss1 View Post
    If civil war broke out and your home got raided while being low t, it aint gonna be fun lol.
    lol, it takes some time for your T to plummet after being off, you will have enough time to get it somewhere.
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    Originally Posted by monster0ultra View Post
    When I was a teen going through puberty, I drank a gallon of milk every 1-2 days, not for any bodybuilding reasons, it's just what my body craved. The theories I'm hearing ITT are that that would've estrogenized me but I ended up 6'1 with a crazy vtaper. Post puberty, weighed 185lbs and could bench 200 and deadlift 315 the first time I went to the gym.
    Didn't sleep on milk either and have never broken a bone. Always blows my mind when I see people break something running or jumping like how fuking weak are your bones.
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    Originally Posted by JeepBruh View Post
    We just ignoring this graph? Seems like there could be a correlation with chicken and lower T rates?

    I could see it as a possibility. All the men I know who prefer chicken come off as lower test.
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    Originally Posted by scythiss1 View Post
    If civil war broke out and your home got raided while being low t, it aint gonna be fun lol.

    My trigger finger couldn't give less fks what my T levels are... Outcome would be the same regardless if I am shooting with a throbbing erection or dragging my dick in the dirt

    Although lets be real here... Would much rather go into battle with a big veiny one to mentally defeat the opponent prior to any physical engagement
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    I mean, we don't play outside and eat gigantic food portions.

    We work too much and don't have enough non working holidays.

    There's less sense of community and people are more withdrawn than ever



    So yeah, low T isn't really shocking.
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    Not reading this thread - but it drives me crazy when people claim it's only 1 variable which is to blame for continually decreasing T levels.

    Newsflash, it's multivariable.

    In general, over the last 50 years, men have become:

    1) Fatter
    2) Less active
    3) Less competitive
    4) Eating more processed foods
    5) Eating more sugars / corn sugars / random chemical ingredients that nobody even knows what they are
    6) Not getting enough natural sunlight (OMG skin cancer!) or natural exercise / activity
    7) Living a much more sedentary lifestyle (Officecel, schoolcel, computer gamescel, videogame-cel, whatever)
    8) The culture punishes people who challenge the system, authority, or think independley (High T markers)
    9) Medicate boys who have higher energy and level them as having some disorder.
    10) Feminized the entire educational system
    11) Feminized office / work culture
    12) Feminized the culture in general to the point of making people confused as to their gender.
    13) Porn and Virtual escape being so freely available that many people prefer it to regular sexual encounters or dating.

    I could go on....but you get the point.

    Assuming you aren't an overweight weakling with no agency over your own life, and you're actually in good health, hit the gym regularly, and have no medical conditions: Get your T levels checked, if you are low, find an Endo that knows what they're doing and start with TRT. I've been doing TRT for a couple years, get a shot in my ass every-friday morning before work, no issues.
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    Originally Posted by PenorBrahNoHomo View Post
    10 year old account with 49 posts comes in to tell you to stop eating meat, not suspect at all. We all know vegetarians and vegans have test through the roof!

    Quality meat, eggs and dairy are foods which are generally good for testosterone production!
    i'm not a vegan

    better get some glasses


    225 to 356 is 58% do you need me to explain the math too
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    Originally Posted by righteousreason View Post
    I guess it could also be diet..

    With "low fat" and "low cholesterol" being billed as healthy diets, maybe that's the problem people are having, fat and cholesterol being essential for T production
    you mean keto diet Correct..

    even so my cholesterol is lower and testosterone went up 135 total is a base line eating meat 3 times aday

    122 cholesterol total was the most resent so dropping it down to 1 day a week changed it very little this is an important factor as the body has balanced out with self production of cholesterol..

    the one thing I added was B12 suppliants.. that was the key factor
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    I eat all the meat, eggs and milk. 37 year old and test levels at 970 ng/dL
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    Originally Posted by Misc420Doctor View Post
    Increased and reduced indicators of empathy.

    Sounds like you can have high or low empathy with high T lol
    Learn to read idiot. That's not what it says.
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    I know Gen Z kids and they are absolutely helpless

    Not saying this as a boomer, I’m not that much older than them, but the difference in boys when I was their age is staggering to put it lightly
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