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    tundra. buy a 2021 or wait for the 2022 refresh/4th gen?

    The list of upgrades for the truck sound great, would be a no-brainer except that its going to be a V6 only and from what I read either 281HP for most trims or 480HP for the platinum. Was planning on grabbing this 2021 Toyota Tundra 4WD SR5 CrewMax. Any current owners or enthusiasts with an opinion?
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    Depends on what you want. Wait until they are just getting the 2022's on the lot and you'll be able to get a great deal on the 2021's but will be giving nothing on the 2022's. Did that with my truck. Bought my 2018 in Feb 2019 when they were trying to clear them out for the new body style. MSRP was $56K, got it for a little over 40K.
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    Is Toyota finally going to update the 15 year old technology in their trucks? I love Tundra's, but man, they've been behind the pack for a long time now.

    In 2016 I was shopping for a new truck and test drove a bunch of trucks. Eventually decided my options were between Ford and GMC. Fast forward to 2020 and those are still the two leading options for me. I'll always love my Tundra but Toyota needs to update them to the same level as the other big four brands.
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    Originally Posted by guest89 View Post
    Is Toyota finally going to update the 15 year old technology in their trucks? I love Tundra's, but man, they've been behind the pack for a long time now.

    In 2016 I was shopping for a new truck and test drove a bunch of trucks. Eventually decided my options were between Ford and GMC. Fast forward to 2020 and those are still the two leading options for me. I'll always love my Tundra but Toyota needs to update them to the same level as the other big four brands.
    apparently this is the first redesign since 2007. lots of changes and some renders that basically take the front off of a hilux and put it on a 2021 tundra which is hideous.
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    Originally Posted by guest89 View Post
    Is Toyota finally going to update the 15 year old technology in their trucks? I love Tundra's, but man, they've been behind the pack for a long time now.

    In 2016 I was shopping for a new truck and test drove a bunch of trucks. Eventually decided my options were between Ford and GMC. Fast forward to 2020 and those are still the two leading options for me. I'll always love my Tundra but Toyota needs to update them to the same level as the other big four brands.
    You can't beat American Trucks. Yes, Toyota and Nissan make trucks too, but it just isn't the same. Real truck people know, those who argue otherwise usually aren't really truck people. Just the feel of the way they sit is different.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    You can't beat American Trucks. Yes, Toyota and Nissan make trucks too, but it just isn't the same. Real truck people know, those who argue otherwise usually aren't really truck people. Just the feel of the way they sit is different.

    Isn't the tundra and titan purely built by and in the USA?
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    Originally Posted by DualBandWiFi View Post
    Isn't the tundra and titan purely built by and in the USA?
    Yes. My Tundra is from Princeton, Indiana.
    Idiots with their aMeriCaN BuiLt arguments LOL!

    I’m all for buying American made. But just lmfao if you buy a Ford over a Toyota because “Made in America”. Both the F150 and Tundra are US made trucks.
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    My US built (Jap engine and trans) 2004 Tacoma won't die. Although, I keep thinking about buying a new Tundra. Eager to see what the update looks like.
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    Originally Posted by DualBandWiFi View Post
    Isn't the tundra and titan purely built by and in the USA?
    Yes but it's just different. Ford, GM, and Dodge have the market cornered on Truck production up until you get to commercial vehicles, then it changes around.

    I work at a dealer and I'm a Titan Specialist (well specialist in every category) but I've worked on a ton of Titans because I was the first one to go when they did the redesign. I think ti's a good truck. Very few problems out of them. I considered buying one but chose the Silverado, and haven't had any problems out of it either. You've got to think who's been doing it longer and who has the clients of trucks that actually work professionally. They are pushed to extremes every day, take a licking and keep on ticking.
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    You are probably better off with the last of an outgoing gen as opposed to the first of a new gen.
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    Chevy Trucks are built in Arlington, TX.

    Pretty much all Dodge/RAM vehicles are built in Brampton, ON.. though owned by Italian FIAT

    At least with Chevy, your money is staying in the American economy. Buying a Tundra, lol at sending your money to Japanese coporations for a second rate truck

    Try killing a chevy v8.. there are still gen 3 V8s with over 200k still going after getting their dinks ran through the dirt

    Try killing GM Transmissions too.. TH400 or 4L80E, cottdayum
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    If you do, go 480hp or nothing the other engine sounds pathetic for a full size truck.
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    First gen F150 Raptor is a good value. $30-35k, 6.2L V8 that will last forever, holds it value extremely well (the difference in depreciation between a used raptor and a new tundra can pay for the maintenance on the raptor), F150 reliability

    I really like the Tundra TRD Pro (especially the 2019 in voodoo blue), but at $50k I'd rather buy the Raptor for $30-35k... which is even cooler and doesn't depreciate as much
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    Depends on how long you plan on keeping the vehicle. If you value reliability above all else, then the 2021 is no question the most reliable full size truck ever made. Also is nice Tundras finally are coming with nice features like push button start, proximity entry, CarPlay, etc. interior still is a decade behind Ram and new Ford tho.

    The 2022 is supposed to have a hybrid TT V6 out of the Lexus 500 (which is a superb motor), along with an 8 speed transmission. Both will help greatly with the ancient (yet adequate and reliable 5.7L and 6 speed).

    2021 will be the last of the 5.7L and 6 speed, both unchanged since the 2nd Gen came out in 2007. They are anvil reliable, along with the rest of the truck. There have been three 1,000,000 mile tundras, you simply won’t see that with any of the big 3.

    I have a 2018 Platinum that I will be keeping as I’m kind of building it into a Platinum Prop. Not going to buy a 1st year redesign, but may be in the market for a 2023. This is my 3rd Tundra (2018, 2010, 2001) after having 2 Tacomas (1997 and 2001).

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    I can't wait to see what the 2022 has in store. New motor, new body, now suspension...basically entirely truck is completely brand new from the top down. And it's Toyota so you know they've been testing the fk out of it and it's going to be good.
    The motor is supposedly coming from the Lexus line and has been very reliable, makes more torque and hp than the current 5.7l, and will get way better fuel economy.

    If it's as nice as I think it will be, I will be buying a TRD Pro model for sure.
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    Try killing a chevy v8.. there are still gen 3 V8s with over 200k still going after getting their dinks ran through the dirt
    That's cute. How many have made it to 1,000,000 miles like the Tundra has? There's been like 3 or 4 at this point. And these aren't truck that have been accumulating miles for 20+ fking years like Chevrolets...
    One did a million miles in like 6 years. Insane.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    That's cute. How many have made it to 1,000,000 miles like the Tundra has? There's been like 3 or 4 at this point. And these aren't truck that have been accumulating miles for 20+ fking years like Chevrolets...
    One did a million miles in like 6 years. Insane.
    Plenty have, your average gasser can easily do half a million or more properly maintained, join some truck groups and see what kind of mileage people are getting these days. Ever seen the test comparisons on the Tundra? Bow flex frame and all, they just settled a massive class action lawsuit over their garbage frames.

    The Tundra has never been able to put a dent in the fullsize truck market. The factory runs at capacity or slightly under, anyone is free to buy one over the competition but don't.
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