Post the most dominating athlete who ever lived

[Temuz]

completely objective though

My dad has a couple of Merckx bikes

[veggie530]

People always forget about my man Tiger Woods. The guy has his own Gatorade FFS. Used too love that stuff.

Tiger Woods
Gretzky
Tom Brady (6 rings 9 superbowls. Belichick sucking sucking azz without him)
Lance Armstrong
MJ

I would have said Brady, but he was not even the best QB in the league several years during the 18 year run of being a dynasty.

In 2001 he was a game manager. In 2003-2004, the defense won the titles. He wasn't a powerhouse at his position for several years after taking over in 2001.

Lance is a great answer, though.

Chit didn't know that!

Yup. nadal is also 10-4 against Federer in grand slams.

[JackDonagy]

I would have said Brady, but he was not even the best QB in the league several years during the 18 year run of being a dynasty.

In 2001 he was a game manager. In 2003-2004, the defense won the titles. He wasn't a powerhouse at his position for several years after taking over in 2001.

Lance is a great answer, though.



Yup. nadal is also 10-4 against Federer in grand slams.

Best QB is so subjective man. QB is so reliant on Line and WR's. End of the day I think Tom's number suffered because BB knew he could win with a mediocre offensive cast so he spent the money on Defense.

Ultimately 6 rings and 9 SB's just takes the cake. Winning in the NFL is the hardest of all pro sports. Its not like NBA where you win championships in free agency.

1 team, 6 rings, 9 SB's. Sht supporting cast for many years outside of early days and Moss/Welker makes him the GOAT American athlete imo. The guy was a fooking 6th round pick look where he is now. Not even going to lie im a big Tom Brady homer idgaf.

[TokenV]

My dad has a couple of Merckx bikes

mirin' lol

Lance is a great answer, though.

not sure if srs, see post #92

[BillHendricks]

Catelyn Jenner in his prime! Yeaaaa boyos

[yeshli2nuts]

I'll go with Pedro Martinez during his prime. I remember being a Cleveland Indians fan going up against him in the early 2000s thinking before games against him "ok, if we can work up his pitch count maybe we can get him out in the 7th or 8th inning and have a shot at scoring a few runs against the bullpen".

Or

Barry Bonds. The mere fact of intentionally walking someone with the bases loaded = pure dominance.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

As far as mainstream sports go, I'm with everyone who says Gretzky. There is no argument about the best hockey player to play the game. He firmly holds the 1st place spot with zero competition.

Randy Moss was also a good choice. Jerry Rice was an all around better WR, and possibly the greatest player to play football, but Moss's physical gifts and dominance were unlike anything the NFL ever saw. He was unstoppable and put fear in DBs minds before they even got on the field.


Stepping outside the box, Simone Biles (USA Gymnast) is easily the most dominant athlete of modern days. Anyone competing against her is competing for second place before the first event even starts.

[SSM12]

Obviously in hockey it’s Gretz, Orr, Mario

But, this guy absolutely wrecks people physically

Oh and he may break Gretz’s all time goal record



Probably won’t see another dominating goal scorer like him for quite a while. Especially with his physical play.

Obviously not the best, but a name that hasn’t been said.

[samsbolton]

Also what Sam fails to realize is that naturally as a player plays more games into the later stages of his career ppg will drop

I bet if you took ppg for Gretzky’s 5 most dominant seasons vs Lemieux ... Gretzky would crush it

I do realise that

1. He had a longer career, so he has better ‘gross’ statistics
2. Hockey is what, 20th most played sport in the world? Less? It’s a small, small talent pool same as golf.

Cricket is hugely popular, vast talent pool. That’s why it’s Bradman, by a mile, and I despise Australia and everyone in it.

Phil Taylor is runner up since everyone has played darts to some level. Even yanks

[veggie530]

Best QB is so subjective man. QB is so reliant on Line and WR's. End of the day I think Tom's number suffered because BB knew he could win with a mediocre offensive cast so he spent the money on Defense.

Ultimately 6 rings and 9 SB's just takes the cake. Winning in the NFL is the hardest of all pro sports. Its not like NBA where you win championships in free agency.

1 team, 6 rings, 9 SB's. Sht supporting cast for many years outside of early days and Moss/Welker makes him the GOAT American athlete imo. The guy was a fooking 6th round pick look where he is now. Not even going to lie im a big Tom Brady homer idgaf.

True, but was he dominant? During the super bowl games:

Wins:
2001: 16/27, 145 yards, TD
2003: 32/48, 350 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT
2004: 23/33, 236 yards, 2 TD
2014: 37/50, 328, 4 TD, 2 INT
2016: 43/62, 466 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
2018: 21/35, 262 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT

Losses:
2007: 29/48, 266 yards, 1 TD
2012: 27/41, 246 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
2017: 28/48, 505 yards, 3 TD

Not gonna lie, thought the numbers would be worse than that. But, 5 INT's in 6 wins. Plus, each year during his dynasty, best QB's:

2001: Warner, Favre or Garcia
2002: Manning or Gannon
2003: Manning
2004: Manning
2005: Manning or Palmer
2006: Manning, Palmer or Brees
2007: Brady
2008: Brees, Rivers or Warner
2009: Favre, Manning or Brees
2010: Brady
2011: Rodgers or Brees
2012: Brees, Manning or Rodgers
2013: Manning
2014: Manning or Rodgers
2015: Brady or Wilson
2016: Ryan or Rodgers
2017: Brady
2018: Mahomes
2019: Wilson

Idk, if we're talking about "dominance" I don't see it. If we were talking about Gretzky, he'd be on every single year as the best or among the top 2-3. To me dominance is about dunking on the competition

I'll go with Pedro Martinez during his prime. I remember being a Cleveland Indians fan going up against him in the early 2000s thinking before games against him "ok, if we can work up his pitch count maybe we can get him out in the 7th or 8th inning and have a shot at scoring a few runs against the bullpen".

Or

Barry Bonds. The mere fact of intentionally walking someone with the bases loaded = pure dominance.

Bro, idk how I didn't mention Bonds. He is literally the baseball goat. In his MVP seasons they walked him with the bases loaded ffs.

Season by season, bold = led the league




Career stats, gold is all time leader:


The man ****ing averaged .298/40/100/28. He was a 400/400 player before PED's, too. 8 gold gloves? offense and defense?! That is WILD

mirin' lol



not sure if srs, see post #92

I'm ignorant

[nothingshocking]

Obviously in hockey it’s Gretz, Orr, Mario

But, this guy absolutely wrecks people physically

Oh and he may break Gretz’s all time goal record

Is that NotbadNotbrad?

[notbadnotbrad]

I do realise that

1. He had a longer career, so he has better ‘gross’ statistics
2. Hockey is what, 20th most played sport in the world? Less? It’s a small, small talent pool same as golf.

Cricket is hugely popular, vast talent pool. That’s why it’s Bradman, by a mile, and I despise Australia and everyone in it.

Phil Taylor is runner up since everyone has played darts to some level. Even yanks

Yeah hockey isn’t very popular. I think a lot has to do with how expensive it is. My parents literally payed upwards of 5k a year to have me play. This doesn’t include the time and cost of mileage to drive me around southern Ontario for games.

With basketball soccer and football you literally need a ball, court or field.

Hockey you need thousands of dollars worth of equipment and need to rent the ice. I’d assume golf would be similar.

Definitely two sports for the more affluent which makes the talent pool much smaller. In saying that I think enough people play the game where the dominance by the all time greats like Gretzky would be statistically significant.

To your point about Gretzky vs Lemieux, I think if you looked at their primes Gretzky would have been significantly more dominant from a points per game point of view than Lemieux.

[samsbolton]

Yeah hockey isn’t very popular. I think a lot has to do with how expensive it is. My parents literally payed upwards of 5k a year to have me play. This doesn’t include the time and cost of mileage to drive me around southern Ontario for games.

With basketball soccer and football you literally need a ball, court or field.

Hockey you need thousands of dollars worth of equipment and need to rent the ice. I’d assume golf would be similar.

Definitely two sports for the more affluent which makes the talent pool much smaller. In saying that I think enough people play the game where the dominance by the all time greats like Gretzky would be statistically significant.

To your point about Gretzky vs Lemieux, I think if you looked at their primes Gretzky would have been significantly more dominant from a points per game point of view than Lemieux.

I know zero about hockey other than that Gretzky is a bit better per game than Lemieux and he had a much longer career.

No one is remotely near to Bradman in statistical dominance in a popular sport, or ever will be again

[TokenV]

No one is remotely near to Bradman in statistical dominance in a popular sport, or ever will be again

cricket is a popular sport now?

Country or region: Commonwealth and British territories

lmfao

[HayZues Christi]

Jim thorpe

[darkninja67]

Jim thorpe

came in expecting this. Definitely the most well rounded athlete ever.

[mycorona]

Wrestler With 887-2 Record






OR

buakaw

That japanese david bowie looking kunt at 1:45 didn’t stand a chance lol

[SmashinYoungVag]

I know most people aren’t into track and field. But what Usain Bolt did will never be done again. The guy was celebrating his victory in the 100m 70 meters into it.

His world record stands 11 years later. And nobody has come within a tenth of a second of it. And his 200m has stood for 11 years as well. Gold in 08,12, 16. Only person to ever do that.

[TheGattingBall]

Donald Bradman srs

Aus, UK, NZ and Pajeet brahs can confirm.

Can confirm.

Bobs and vagene brags won’t back you up though because they live in a delusional dream world where Tendulkar is somehow the goat.

[TheGattingBall]

cricket is a popular sport now?

Country or region: Commonwealth and British territories

lmfao

It’s the main sport in India. That alone puts it ahead of NFL and Ice Hockey in terms of global popularity.

[MiscInformed]

Babe Ruth

In his day, for his sport, he stood head and shoulders above the rest of the league.

[TBO1313]

Randy Moss physically was significantly more talented.

In their primes, Jerry has the greatest QB of all times in Joe Montana, and Steve Young was the best in the league for a couple seasons too. Was it Jerry or the qbs? It was both.


Randy played with Daunte Culpepper, who was a tank of a runner who would chuck the ball as far as he could, and Randy did the rest.


Jerry Rice is the better receiver, but Randy was an absolute freak of an athlete, even more so than Michael Vick who made players look like they were in slow motion in college.

Randy Moss is such a long strider that when he would take off down the sidelines he didn't look like he was moving fast until you saw him leaving people in the dust. Dude ran like a gazelle, completely effortless. Moss was the better athlete but Rice was the better route runner and had better hands. Rice's receiving yards and TD records will probably never be broken and that is insane considering how much more often they throw the ball now than when he played

Gretzky is so far ahead of his competition I don't see how you couldn't have in the conversation. Between 99 and 2001 Shaq was an absolute force of nature. If caught the ball in the post you were fukd. Jordan was simply unbeatable when he was at his prime. He was a walking bucket and would lock down whoever they put him on.

Roy Jones Jr. was unbeatable in his prime. By the time I started watching boxing Tyson was washed up so I can't really comment on his prime and I quit watching by the time Mayweather came along

[WoofieNugget]

People that either changed the sport or have records so far gone that likely nobody will ever touch them:

Jack Nicklaus people forget about but he's tied with Tiger for tour wins and ahead of him by 3 in majors. GOAT golfer.
Nobody will ever come close to Gretzky in hockey.
Phil Taylor's domination in darts is ridiculous. Won 214 tournaments, 85 major wins and 16 World Championships, 8 of which were in a row.
People again forget that Kareem technically has eight championships in basketball, six as a player and two as an assistant coach.

[CBRIT89]

I know most people aren’t into track and field. But what Usain Bolt did will never be done again. The guy was celebrating his victory in the 100m 70 meters into it.

His world record stands 11 years later. And nobody has come within a tenth of a second of it. And his 200m has stood for 11 years as well. Gold in 08,12, 16. Only person to ever do that.

BS record though. Look at the Top 50 fastest times ever. Not top 50 athletes, top 50 times. He's the only one on there not to have doped, and he's there about 6 times.

Straight up bull****. You telling me that all those dopers are working their asses off, popping pills and injecting their asses, and they can't beat a clean guy who is smashing the KFC all the time?

[TokenV]

It’s the main sport in India. That alone puts it ahead of NFL and Ice Hockey in terms of global popularity.

so since ping pong is played a lot in China this is a global popular sport as well?

that's not this works lol

[Tommyy24]

Mike tyson

[crazy2841]

Shaq
Prime Anderson Silva
Rocky Marciano

[knightofday]

Anderson Silva- UFC in his prime he was like a create a character, beat everyone twice it seemed

Marc Marquez- MotoGP Valentino was beast but Marquez is well on his way to smashing that, he can’t be touched srs

Usain Bolt- sprinting he dominated at the highest levels, world stage with EASE. Dude would be celebrating at 3/4 track smiling and chit

[OffwhiteBrah]

No athlete can touch this beast

[akmerle]

From a prolonged period of dominance perspective......
Gretzky
Karelin
Serena Williams
MJ
Brady
Woods