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    Why is weight cutting not abolished?

    Isn’t it just cheating? And it’s dangerous Fighters should fight in their natural weight class.
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    While I agree with the idea of weight cutting being harmful, I am sceptical how you would ban it.

    Weight the athlete in bi-weekly? Weight them in a month before and forbid them to be more than 10lbs above competition weight? Remove all weight classes?
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    Just do it like in school sports, weigh ins right before the fight, hydration test as well. Simple.

    Suddenly your amazing GOAT Jon Jones would be facing the top HWs and get sat on.
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    Originally Posted by I3igAl View Post
    While I agree with the idea of weight cutting being harmful, I am sceptical how you would ban it.

    Weight the athlete in bi-weekly? Weight them in a month before and forbid them to be more than 10lbs above competition weight? Remove all weight classes?
    The ideal time would be to have weigh ins 2 hours before a fight. You gotta be retarded to cut that low and try to bounce back in such a short time span.
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    I’m sure fans would be lovely with cancelled events due to weigh ins right before fight.
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    they did it both ways in boxing. they had weigh ins the day of and fighters would still try to cut weight anyways and rehydrate within a few hours before the fight, so all these guys coming in dehydrated and i think it was one of the post fight deaths that caused them to change it, saying a day before weigh in is safer. They were saying if you are really dehydrated you have less brain fluid and are at greater risk of brain damage taking blows.
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    There is no way to regulate or enforce such a policy. Weight cutting is just part of the game with any sport that is broken up into weight classes. Always been that way, always will be.

    Hydration tests won’t work due to the relatively extensive testing that would be needed to establish someone’s baseline since it has a wide range depending on the person. Even then, guys would keep a manipulate their water when establishing their baseline.

    I have done wrestling / bjj / lifting with night before and morning of weigh ins. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I will generally compete one class higher for a “morning of” event since it’s super easy for me to strip 10lbs+ of water in a day or two if it’s a “night before” event.
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    Just do a dexa scan. Anyone below 18% gets disqualified. No more weight cutting, just bloatmaxxing.

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    As a fairly successful high school wrestler, it’s gotta end at some point.

    It’s ridiculous that you have to be at your absolute weakest 24 hours before a fight.

    For fuks same, Chris Cyborg was so dehydrated that they couldn’t even draw blood from her veins because her blood was so thick.
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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    For fuks same, Chris Cyborg was so dehydrated that they couldn’t even draw blood from her veins because her blood was so thick.
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    Although I don't love the idea, adding another weight class or 2 would also help. (along with other measures)

    I refuse to believe that there is no way to significantly improve the current situation.
    If you take a step back and think about the whole thing, it's kind of silly.
    You have professional athletes going through a process right before competition that is actually detrimental to performance. (and overall health)
    And they all do the same thing, in varying degrees.
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    Originally Posted by viennafat View Post
    Although I don't love the idea, adding another weight class or 2 would also help. (along with other measures)

    I refuse to believe that there is no way to significantly improve the current situation.
    If you take a step back and think about the whole thing, it's kind of silly.
    You have professional athletes going through a process right before competition that is actually detrimental to performance. (and overall health)
    And they all do the same thing, in varying degrees.
    Symptomatic of a low iq tbh. Bunch of idiots just trying to copy wrestling and boxing culture
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    No one is forcing any one to cut weight

    but then again no one is forcing any one to fight at their natural weight either
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    Originally Posted by viennafat View Post
    Although I don't love the idea, adding another weight class or 2 would also help. (along with other measures)

    I refuse to believe that there is no way to significantly improve the current situation.
    If you take a step back and think about the whole thing, it's kind of silly.
    You have professional athletes going through a process right before competition that is actually detrimental to performance. (and overall health)
    And they all do the same thing, in varying degrees.
    Would love to see addition of “super” lightweight / welterweight / middleweight divisions, but no way it will happen when there is still 10# jumps in the sub 155 divisions.

    UFC follows the Unified Boxing and Combat Sports weight classes, which I believe is tied to their sanctioning by the Nevada Athletic Commission (which every state basically follows). So I believe they can’t just cherry pick which weight classes depending on which classes would provide more exciting fights.

    Weight cutting is a double edged sword, but in all reality, guys do it because they win more fights when they do it. Yes they won’t be at their peak condition, but even when slightly compromised, they will perform better when they have the size / strength advantage. As professional athletes, trust me, they wouldn’t do it if it didn’t equate to more wins and $$$$.
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    Originally Posted by akmerle View Post
    Would love to see addition of “super” lightweight / welterweight / middleweight divisions, but no way it will happen when there is still 10# jumps in the sub 155 divisions.

    UFC follows the Unified Boxing and Combat Sports weight classes, which I believe is tied to their sanctioning by the Nevada Athletic Commission (which every state basically follows). So I believe they can’t just cherry pick which weight classes depending on which classes would provide more exciting fights.

    Weight cutting is a double edged sword, but in all reality, guys do it because they win more fights when they do it. Yes they won’t be at their peak condition, but even when slightly compromised, they will perform better when they have the size / strength advantage. As professional athletes, trust me, they wouldn’t do it if it didn’t equate to more wins and $$$$.
    if it were up to me lol, get rid of the flyweight division for males. No male should ever weigh 125 lbs, ever. Make it ...


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    Must be within 5lbs of weight class 24hrs prior, failure to do so and alternate is in for the fight.

    Day of fight must be on point.


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    Originally Posted by Darkhare View Post
    Must be within 5lbs of weight class 24hrs prior, failure to do so and alternate is in for the fight.

    Day of fight must be on point.


    Problem solved
    So they will be even more depleted without the almost 1.5 days to rehydrate and replenish like they have now?

    Have you ever cut weight before? You only want to be on weight for the shortest time possible. Having to stay down that low for 24 hours is truly dangerous.

    Fact is weight cutting will never go away in ANY sport that has weight classes. So if the UFC truly cares about fighter safety and well being, then they will allow them IV’s again post weigh ins. Guys are going to cut to the same point regardless.
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    Originally Posted by akmerle View Post
    So they will be even more depleted without the almost 1.5 days to rehydrate and replenish like they have now?

    Have you ever cut weight before? You only want to be on weight for the shortest time possible. Having to stay down that low for 24 hours is truly dangerous.

    Fact is weight cutting will never go away in ANY sport that has weight classes. So if the UFC truly cares about fighter safety and well being, then they will allow them IV’s again post weigh ins. Guys are going to cut to the same point regardless.
    You’re right about weight cutting.

    But I wouldn’t say it’s something that can never be fixed. It would involve the implementation of more invasive/extensive steps for a fighter to go through, but it could happen if fighters start dying. USADA has to know where you’re at pretty much all the time, so the groundwork is already theee to expand on that but with weight cutting.

    I’m kinda surprised there aren’t more deaths. I’m glad that there aren’t, but some of these guys come shockingly close to death in that window before stepping on the scale.
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    Just weigh them 7 days in a row up until fight day and their weight must not fluctuate more than 10 lbs in that time period or they are disqualified. Boom, no one can possibly cut weight
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    Originally Posted by ralphlaurenbrah View Post
    Just weigh them 7 days in a row up until fight day and their weight must not fluctuate more than 10 lbs in that time period or they are disqualified. Boom, no one can possibly cut weight
    I agree with the 10lbs limit. Fighters like colby covington move around at 180 but can cut 10 and hit 170 but Colby say he stay in shape all year round basically. Then you got cody garbrandt who's 4 or 5 lbs heavier than his weigh in which is fine. So if this were to work, every fighter would have to move up or down a weight class and take nutrition seriously.

    Its when we got muhfcukas walking around at 180, trying to cut to 155 that it becomes a problem. Not just to gain an advantage but for the body down the line as they continue to do that chit
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    they shouldn't change it. even if they become more lenient it will only make people cut into the upper weight limit

    would be the same **** all over again
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    Hydration test would be ideal. Even if you weigh them when they are in the right right before the bell, some people don't lose that much performance because they are dehydrated some, while others it makes a huge difference.
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