420 natural bench press equivalent for 1 rep at 6'0 and 205.
The math on the machine works out like this. It's 150 lbs on the machine times two to get 300 then add in 120 pounds to get 420.
Matches up really good with what I can do on the one-arm smith machine bench press.
I do this with bad form first then with good form without lifting my butt off the bench. This is the equivalent of a 420 bench with a back arch and bounce.
I've done the equivalent of 400 on this machine with good form and paused.
And i'm under estimating this by around 10 lbs because I don't want to be over estimating this.
If you all remember the competition that Bob Digital and I had on the smith machine for reps with one arm then you will know this is legit weight. Bob struggled to beat me on the smith machine and barely got up 205 for 5 reps. He struggled really bad on the 5th rep on his smith machine. I never got a chance late last year to match that though and ended up 5lbs behind him at 200 for 5 on the smith machine.
I'll have to restest that smith machine and see what I can get. Should be over 205 for 5 now on it. It's tougher to do at this lower bodyweight so my bench has gone down alot compared to when I was 265 to 271 in 2018.
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11-05-2020, 07:27 AM #1
420 LBS bench press equivalent with bad form for 1 rep at 6'0 and 205
Last edited by Matt413413; 11-05-2020 at 07:36 AM.
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11-05-2020, 07:33 AM #5
Here's the match up on the smith machine.
200 for 4 on the smith machine with my left arm after doing a ton of other stuff in the gym.
Could have got the 5th rep if I didn't do the stuff before this.
Was this parallel though? Hurry do a parallel check.
The math on this works out like this. It's 200 on the bar for 4. And 200 on the smith machine in real weight is 170 because the bar weighs 15.
So this is 340 for 4 reps.
This bar wobbles though back and forth making it tougher because it's broken.
Also i'm not doing the elbow in technique which involves more lats. I'm literally doing this with all chest because the angle from my elbow to my shoulder is parallel with the bar.
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11-05-2020, 02:05 PM #14
Can't because of a crippled right arm that's broken in over 10 different places in the elbow and is crooked. Can't lock it out or even take a 5lb dumbbell behind my head and do a tricep extension. The tendons gradually became detached from the bone over 20 years.
Like I said before. Bob digital struggled to do 205 for 5 on his smith machine. Barely got up the 5th rep. And he was right around a 425 paused competition bench at that point. And his 5 rep PR at that point was 355 for 5.
So the 205 on the smith machine for 5 was the equivalent of him doing 350 for 5 since 205 minus 30lbs is 175 lbs of real weight for 5 reps with one arm.
So he had to go into PR range just to be able to compete with me on this. But we all know nothing he accomplished counts. So at this point i'm just using him as a reference vantage point.
I don't even need a good right arm at this point. I'll just bench with my left arm and times that by two. The funny thing is my right arm was always stronger before it became crippled so i'm guessing I could have got 10lbs more than this if I tried this with my right arm if it were good. My chest is more developed on my right side even before the arm became crippled from pitching in baseball.
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11-05-2020, 02:19 PM #19
Yeah i think so too. I haven't focused on the smith machine paused calf raises lately because i've been doing more dumbbell calve raises on one leg. Right now i'm at like 455 paused with good form on the smith machine. I think I should get it over 500 again. Because i'm not really going past 455 because I want to focus in on form. I could crank that up to well over 500 though if I wanted to with good form.
Thanks for the reminder. Maybe this will make me run faster. I noticed that my calves looked stronger when I was doing even bad form heavier smith machine calve raises. I think i've got that to somewhere like 620lbs with bad form before.
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11-05-2020, 02:19 PM #20
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lol at still thinking unilateral exercises = double what you would do bilaterally. OP is probably one of the most insecure guys on this forum having to constantly prove his manliness with these videos
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11-05-2020, 02:19 PM #21
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11-05-2020, 02:28 PM #24
How old is your AVI OP?
but at least you are doing something even with a broken arm... Most people would ldar, so I'll give you props for that but like Tank said, unilateral exercises don't equal 2x stronger than bilateral.FS/ S/ OHP/ B/ DL
120/150/70/100/180 =KG
I don't go to the gym anymore so above stats are useless.
Only do weighted calastentics in the comfort of my own home!
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173620211&page=138 go here if you want an estimation on your bf%
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11-05-2020, 02:33 PM #25
Here's the one arm smith machine bench competition thread with Bob from last year.
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...7400461&page=9
He has since deleted his 205 for 5 video from his youtube page. But people were commenting in this thread about how he really looked like he was struggling on the 5th rep. Then Bob later verified this in the thread. This is legit weight.
And i'm literally doing the same or more now at 203-209 lbs bodyweight than I was at 232 lbs bodyweight in that thread.
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11-05-2020, 02:42 PM #30
Ok just got done reading some of that thread.
It wasn't a 355 for 5 PR for Bob on regular bench at that point. It was 360 for 5.
But still to come within 10lbs of your PR on any given day isn't an easy thing to do. No wonder he struggled on the 5th rep. And my smith machine is tougher to do because it bounces back and forth as if you're doing a rubber band bench on a bamboo bar.
And Bob used the elbows flared in technique to his advantage. I didn't. And he still barely got more up. Damn I now think I have potential for a 457 pound bench press at 6'0 and 205. I'm going to crank up the chest workouts and really go all out on this.
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