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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    I just watched Rudy's interview on Crowder and with an open mind (I've personally fact-checked/debunked some of the Trumper theories). I gotta say, his case does not sound like desperate BS at all, they have legitimate grounds to contend the voting process conducted in these states.

    Spamming "cope" and recycling Trump memes doesn't change that fact or constitute an argument. And Giuliani isn't even including the Dominion software glitch is his current lawsuit, though he says it needs further investigation and will be discussed.



    Yes I actually have less a problem with the calling of the race. It's their timing (literally minutes before Giuliani/Trump's scheduled statement, muh coincidence) and how they conduct themselves following. Right now, they are putting the utmost pressure on Trump to concede victory and turn the public against him.

    Now, we have "unconfirmed anonymous" sources claiming Jared and Melania are pleading him to concede. Atlantic story all over again.
    So you know, they called it when Pennsylvania reported Joe Biden was up over .5%. That was the media standard, set by the AP.

    The pa numbers were released at that exact time. Pennsylvania told everybody when they were releasing the next batch.

    It was poor planning by Rudy to hold the meeting at the wrong place and the wrong time.

    Originally Posted by QuentinSutpen View Post
    Looking at PA's numbers, it seems to me that Trump lost Philadelphia & Pittsburgh by roughly the same margin as in 2016 --

    Philadelphia 2020: Biden wins 81% vs 18%
    Philadelphia 2016: Clinton wins 83% vs 15%

    Allegany, or Pittsburgh, 2020: Biden wins 60% vs 39%
    Alleghany 2016: Clinton wins 57% vs 40%

    Trump also raked up high margins in the rural areas, just like last time.

    The problem was Philly's suburbs:

    Chester County 2020: Trump loses 41% to 58%
    Chester County 2016: Trump loses 43% to 53%

    Montgomery County 2020: Trump loses 37% to 63%
    Montgomery County 2016: Trump loses 37% to 59%

    Bucks County 2020: Trump loses 48% to 52%
    Bucks County 2016: Trump loses 48% to 49%

    Lehigh County 2020: Trump loses 46% to 53%
    Lehigh County 2016: Trump loses 46% to 51%

    Northampton County 2020: Trump loses 49% to 50%
    Northampton County 2016: Trump wins 50% to 46%

    Monroe County PA (i,e -Poconos!) 2020: Trump loses 47% to 53%
    Monroe County PA in 2016: Trump loses 48% to 49%

    Lackawanna County in 2020: Trump loses 45% to 54%
    Lackawanna County in 2016: Trump loses 47% to 50%

    In a state where Trump is down by less than 1%, all of these margins add up. In several counties, Trump held the same percentage as he did in 2016, but Biden overperformed Hillary. This suggests that Democrats who didn't like Hillary were willing to support Biden. Lest we forget, PA is still a big Democrat state that voted Obama, Kerry, Gore, and Clinton by huge margins.

    Another issue is that Trump in 2016 hit record margins with the rural population, leaving him little room to expand. It wasn't possible for him to offset increased Philly losses with increased rural turnout. There are not enough people in PA's rural areas for that goal; and there isn't much room for Trump to increase his already-high percentages in the rural areas.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    So you know, they called it when Pennsylvania reported Joe Biden was up over .5%. That was the media standard, set by the AP.

    The pa numbers were released at that exact time. Pennsylvania told everybody when they were releasing the next batch.

    It was poor planning by Rudy to hold the meeting at the wrong place and the wrong time.
    Even if that's true and it's a legit coincidence, their conduct immediately before and after the call is atrocious and clearly agenda driven. The CNN article about Kushner says it all. If you're a dishonest partisan who cares little for election integrity, you're going into catharsis over Biden's victory and LOL'ing at Republicans.

    If you're not that, you understand there's mandatory recounts to be done and legitimate cause to be concerned over election integrity. There's been democrats who expressed as much in this very election.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    States decide how to run their elections.

    That won't be changing.
    So you're okay with dems making it easy to cheat
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Lmao... there is no proof yet - just conjecture based on muh feels.

    Sleepy Joe was probably a bad strat by Trump. The whole week before the election, he didn't seem so sleepy, and certainly wasn't last night.


    So, you're saying that if the courts tell Trump it's legit, you'll give Biden his due and not come up with more conspiracy theories? I guess we'll see.
    It’s a possibility and is everywhere, but like all liberal cucks you just blind yourself and follow whatever the news and tv are saying. All brainwashed and stupid lol. Nobody is even speaking on muh feels wtf jajaja Whatever that means

    And just lol at this being a conspiracy. With that said idk what’s worse, being a CT or being a blind sheep.. that’s content with a fraudulent election lol. What was the last paragraph for, you need assurance to what I already stated before or?
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    So you're okay with dems making it easy to cheat
    most libs are. because orange man bad. they are a bunch of dishonest cowardly kunts.

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    Yes I actually have less a problem with the calling of the race. It's their timing (literally minutes before Giuliani/Trump's scheduled statement, muh coincidence) and how they conduct themselves following. Right now, they are putting the utmost pressure on Trump to concede victory and turn the public against him.

    Now, we have "unconfirmed anonymous" sources claiming Jared and Melania are pleading him to concede. Atlantic story all over again.
    This. Funny as fuk it was called 5 min before trumps team were to talk. They're just making Trump look like the most evil person in the world again by having him not acknowledge he lost, therefore he is a dictator and power hungry etc etc. Throwing so much at a person and trump still doesn't break.
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    I'm sry but the halting of the count on election night was a fukking massive red flag just on its own. There were tons of lefties that were sketched out by it too, everyone was bert staring like 'u fukkin wot m8, wut you mean you're stopping counting.."

    There needs to be audits done in every state that's gone this route, for the good of the country. When a large % of a country loses faith in the election integrity some srs issues can follow
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    Originally Posted by 2010JW View Post
    It’s a possibility and is everywhere, but like all liberal cucks you just blind yourself and follow whatever the news and tv are saying. All brainwashed and stupid lol. Nobody is even speaking on muh feels wtf jajaja Whatever that means

    And just lol at this being a conspiracy. With that said idk what’s worse, being a CT or being a blind sheep.. that’s content with a fraudulent election lol. What was the last paragraph for, you need assurance to what I already stated before or?
    z4v4 wants to get in on that 2016 Trumper nirvana, lmao. In a weird vicarious way I find it entertaining. But unlike 2016 democrats, Republicans have reason to be worried and solid grounds to challenge and verify the election results.

    Originally Posted by Briisk View Post
    This. Funny as fuk it was called 5 min before trumps team were to talk. They're just making Trump look like the most evil person in the world again by having him not acknowledge he lost, therefore he is a dictator and power hungry etc etc. Throwing so much at a person and trump still doesn't break.
    I've never been so sure of a political statement in my life: Trump's accomplishments speak for themselves and his presidency was objectively stellar. He will be vindicated. A republican president who ditched neoconservatism, ended the war he was given, and didn't start any new war. That alone is stunning....and hardly the only thing.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Even if that's true and it's a legit coincidence, their conduct immediately before and after the call is atrocious and clearly agenda driven. The CNN article about Kushner says it all. If you're a dishonest partisan who cares little for election integrity, you're going into catharsis over Biden's victory and LOL'ing at Republicans.

    If you're not that, you understand there's mandatory recounts to be done and legitimate cause to be concerned over election integrity. There's been democrats who expressed as much in this very election.
    Recounts change votes by 100-1,000.

    At the end of counting, Biden will be over 100k in PA, 20k in WI, 200k in MI, at least 10kn in GA, at least 20k in NV and my estimation of AZ is at least 10k.

    With Biden likely winning the popular vote by 4.5 - 5 million.

    It is not plausible to have voter fraud across that many states, in that amount of numbers. You can see all across the country, Trump underperformed metropolitan areas. I have a thread on Texas where he underperformed.

    Trump lost.

    Originally Posted by QuentinSutpen View Post
    Looking at PA's numbers, it seems to me that Trump lost Philadelphia & Pittsburgh by roughly the same margin as in 2016 --

    Philadelphia 2020: Biden wins 81% vs 18%
    Philadelphia 2016: Clinton wins 83% vs 15%

    Allegany, or Pittsburgh, 2020: Biden wins 60% vs 39%
    Alleghany 2016: Clinton wins 57% vs 40%

    Trump also raked up high margins in the rural areas, just like last time.

    The problem was Philly's suburbs:

    Chester County 2020: Trump loses 41% to 58%
    Chester County 2016: Trump loses 43% to 53%

    Montgomery County 2020: Trump loses 37% to 63%
    Montgomery County 2016: Trump loses 37% to 59%

    Bucks County 2020: Trump loses 48% to 52%
    Bucks County 2016: Trump loses 48% to 49%

    Lehigh County 2020: Trump loses 46% to 53%
    Lehigh County 2016: Trump loses 46% to 51%

    Northampton County 2020: Trump loses 49% to 50%
    Northampton County 2016: Trump wins 50% to 46%

    Monroe County PA (i,e -Poconos!) 2020: Trump loses 47% to 53%
    Monroe County PA in 2016: Trump loses 48% to 49%

    Lackawanna County in 2020: Trump loses 45% to 54%
    Lackawanna County in 2016: Trump loses 47% to 50%

    In a state where Trump is down by less than 1%, all of these margins add up. In several counties, Trump held the same percentage as he did in 2016, but Biden overperformed Hillary. This suggests that Democrats who didn't like Hillary were willing to support Biden. Lest we forget, PA is still a big Democrat state that voted Obama, Kerry, Gore, and Clinton by huge margins.

    Another issue is that Trump in 2016 hit record margins with the rural population, leaving him little room to expand. It wasn't possible for him to offset increased Philly losses with increased rural turnout. There are not enough people in PA's rural areas for that goal; and there isn't much room for Trump to increase his already-high percentages in the rural areas.
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    It’s a possibility and is everywhere, but like all liberal cucks you just blind yourself and follow whatever the news and tv are saying. All brainwashed and stupid lol. Nobody is even speaking on muh feels wtf jajaja Whatever that means

    And just lol at this being a conspiracy. With that said idk what’s worse, being a CT or being a blind sheep.. that’s content with a fraudulent election lol. What was the last paragraph for, you need assurance to what I already stated before or?
    Here's the difference between you and I:

    I trust our elections are fair. They're not perfect when you get 150 million people voting in a short time and there's going to be pockets of fraud, but I believe election officials aren't rigging elections.

    You, on the other hand, do not trust our elections at all, you have no faith that people are good people and being fair, and you think there is one side that cheats and the other side doesn't.

    In that regard, I don't think you'll accept the courts' rulings. You will still come up with a reason to not trust our elections - just what our foreign adversaries want you to believe.

    That said, when things are tight, there needs to be recounts. This isn't one of those times, but that's okay, this is what Trump has done his whole life, so let's take it to the courts.
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    Yea. Make it electronic. Make it count instantaneously

    Have everybody in the u.s., if they want to vote. Input their information in so it goes into a system prior to voting. When you go into vote, you have to be verified or else you dont get to vote

    Make it so once they hit enter thats all the data transmitted. There will be no gap where its mailed off and stuff could be forged, etc.

    Have cameras in the booth but dont face the computer where it puts in information

    The fact that they havent done this makes me think both sides cheat
    Getting rid of a physical paper trail is a lot harder than getting rid of an electronic trail. Also, the scale at which you can commit fraud if all you need to do is change a number in a database is way larger than what you can do if you have to physically swap ballots by the hundreds of thousands to change the result in a state.

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    When rudy supervises the recount he should arrest the people that voted wrong after throwing their vote away
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    Originally Posted by Skylinerd1 View Post
    This guy explains how they frauded this and how they fuked it up:

    https://twitter.com/MagaKarma1/statu...82544094781440



    Retweeted by Sydney Powell and many others.



    That guy is SGT FRIDAY on youtube. He's an autist that remembers everything he reads. He's been explaining the deepstate for years now.


    he explained it well

    Also gave a reason for the shut down in counting for some states, unprecedented
    Manual recounts solves this issue

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    I'm sry but the halting of the count on election night was a fukking massive red flag just on its own. There were tons of lefties that were sketched out by it too, everyone was bert staring like 'u fukkin wot m8, wut you mean you're stopping counting.."

    There needs to be audits done in every state that's gone this route, for the good of the country. When a large % of a country loses faith in the election integrity some srs issues can follow
    Absolutely, never happened before, then all of a sudden, happens in multiple states
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    he explained it well

    Also gave a reason for the shut down in counting for some states, unprecedented
    Manual recounts solves this issue

    Absolutely, never happened before, then all of a sudden, happens in multiple states
    Trump leads in all states, the next morning , he loses said states
    Huge red light
    Mail. In. Ballots.

    They take time to count.
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    Originally Posted by hackerwacker View Post
    Can anyone point to a single """mistake"""" that favored Trump. Why does every single error go in favor of D's?
    Please refer to your username... Maybe just the first part.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Here's the difference between you and I:

    I trust our elections are fair.

    Lmfao

    This dude swore up and down Trump was a Russian spy.


    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Mail. In. Ballots.

    They take time to count.

    Why are California and Texas finished?
    There is no they…

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    Originally Posted by Travis99 View Post
    Lmfao

    This dude swore up and down Trump was a Russian spy.


    Why are California and Texas finished?
    Texas is not finished.

    I don't know about California.

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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Mail. In. Ballots.

    They take time to count.
    They're also very susceptible to fraud, hence people's increased skepticism...

    just audit this chit and see what the results are, ez game ez life America moves on.


    Saw something about there being way less tossed out mail-in ballots this year despite there being a huge increase in their use overall, have to confirm it tho
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    Originally Posted by Travis99 View Post
    Why are California and Texas finished?
    They aren't. California is at 86% and Texas at 98%, you're just not paying attention to them.

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    Originally Posted by Travis99 View Post
    Lmfao

    This dude swore up and down Trump was a Russian spy.
    Nope. I never said that. He's more like their useful idiot.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Recounts change votes by 100-1,000.

    At the end of counting, Biden will be over 100k in PA, 20k in WI, 200k in MI, at least 10kn in GA, at least 20k in NV and my estimation of AZ is at least 10k.

    With Biden likely winning the popular vote by 4.5 - 5 million.

    It is not plausible to have voter fraud across that many states, in that amount of numbers. You can see all across the country, Trump underperformed metropolitan areas. I have a thread on Texas where he underperformed.

    Trump lost.
    One single MI county error resulted in a 6,000 vote correction...That's from Biden to Trump making the swing even more dramatic than producing 6,000 additional votes.

    And the software responsible for the glitch is in use in multiple counties/swing states. What's the rebuttal to this? Other than the wishful thinking that that single MI county was the only affected one?
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    One single GA county error resulted in a 6,000 vote correction...That's from Biden to Trump making the swing even more dramatic than producing 6,000 additional votes.

    And the software responsible for the glitch is in use in multiple counties/swing states. What's the rebuttal to this? Other than the wishful thinking that that single GA county was the only affected one?
    "brah c'monn mann you knowww that all the other ones are fine, we don't have to double check everywhere else"


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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Mail. In. Ballots.

    They take time to count.
    so you stop counting cause of mail in ballots?
    Everyone just sitting around, waiting for mail to come in, even days after the election night?

    Yeah, I’m not buying it

    This guy is great, makes perfect sense


    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    One single MI county error resulted in a 6,000 vote correction...That's from Biden to Trump making the swing even more dramatic than producing 6,000 additional votes.

    And the software responsible for the glitch is in use in multiple counties/swing states. What's the rebuttal to this? Other than the wishful thinking that that single MI county was the only affected one?
    Yep, can take it from
    Trump 20k
    Biden 15k

    To
    Trump 26k
    Biden 9k

    Rinse send repeat in tons of counties, accumulating Biden votes, let’s him take the state
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Mail. In. Ballots.

    They take time to count.
    You lack common sense. Get out of this thread, you're a phucking joke.

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    Originally Posted by iifymbro View Post
    "brah c'monn mann you knowww that all the other ones are fine, we don't have to double check everywhere else"
    Had to correct, that happened in MI

    But whatevs bro, ur boy Blumpf lost! Who cares if 6,000 in one county is 60% of the margin he lost all of Georgia by?
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Mail. In. Ballots.

    They take time to count.
    right, like PA where trump doesnt gain any more lead at 690k when he was leading PA. the time they stopped counting.

    middle of the night and 2 days later he loses that lead completely.

    you have no common sense. the history of elections is all those 6 swing states stopped counting around the same time on election day. that just doesnt happen, ever in the history of us elections.


    lol at you. defending so hard when theres a huge amount of fraud going on and you're still defending theres no fraud crap.

    literally zero common sense and self awareness.

    you're fuking pathetic and completely irrelevant. you dont make a case at all, trump's team of lawyers already have the proof and they are moving forward starting on monday....starting with PA.

    this is only the beginning.

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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    One single MI county error resulted in a 6,000 vote correction...That's from Biden to Trump making the swing even more dramatic than producing 6,000 additional votes.

    And the software responsible for the glitch is in use in multiple counties/swing states. What's the rebuttal to this? Other than the wishful thinking that that single MI county was the only affected one?
    Please dear god start googling this stuff.

    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/s...k_707197_7.pdf

    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    so you stop counting cause of mail in ballots?
    Everyone just sitting around, waiting for mail to come in, even days after the election night?

    Yeah, I’m not buying it

    This guy is great, makes perfect sense


    Yep, can take it from
    Trump 20k
    Biden 15k

    To
    Trump 26k
    Biden 9k

    Rinse send repeat in tons of counties, accumulating Biden votes, let’s him take the state
    To you as well...Please start googling.

    I can't watch your video now of the guy, I have to do some family stuff.
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    Originally Posted by Travis99 View Post
    Lmfao

    This dude swore up and down Trump was a Russian spy.





    Why are California and Texas finished?
    Your ignorance is appalling.

    California and Texas are not finished and neither are a few other states.

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Here's the difference between you and I:

    I trust our elections are fair.


    These protocols are what separate our system from any banana republic. Without them theres no reason to trust the outcome is legit and if one party is actively circumventing these protocols any rational person would at least become suspicious

    So what Im saying is you seem like the kind of person that wouldnt be suspicious right now
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