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    It may have helped if the spin lock had a 8 or 10mm hex to interface with a power drill for quick adjustments?
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    Originally Posted by boxer_for_life View Post
    It may have helped if the spin lock had a 8 or 10mm hex to interface with a power drill for quick adjustments?
    That's as crazy as thinking all plastics are equal. Some are 16 times stronger than steel.
    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    I'm sure they are solid but they look like junk compared to Ironmaster or Powerblock, which is what I suspected when I saw the stock photo's. That pin would be annoying AF to change weights, how much did they cost?
    Canadian money.
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    Originally Posted by jacksondan31 View Post
    Well they definitely are not junk. I’d say the powerblocks u90s are chintzy compared to these. Ironmasters are more comparable. The only drawback is if you are impatient and don’t like turning things then these are not for you. Plenty of choices out there for everyone unless they aren’t available.
    Look at the finish on those plates... Brand new and they look like they have been used for a solid year or two. They are essentially spin lock db handles, but having the flat end makes them a little nicer. Would have been better is they copied the old IM Quick Change model, cut slots into the plates so that you didn't have to completely remove the pin to swap. Then you'd had a decent product...
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    I'm not sure why you would get these over Yes4All spinlocks off of Amazon, which could be had a lot cheaper pre-covid.
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    Look at the finish on those plates...
    The finish on the plates I have is not perfect but it's good enough. These are weights for a home gym, not a centerpiece for a living-room table. I am not too concerned as long as they react to gravity as expected.

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    I'm not sure why you would get these over Yes4All spinlocks off of Amazon, which could be had a lot cheaper pre-covid.
    Those are all sold out, but have you ever used them? I had a set a long time ago. They sucked. Good luck getting into position to do some dumbbell presses with 100lbs and that 1" diameter bar digging a hole in your thigh as you set up.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    Those are all sold out, but have you ever used them? I had a set a long time ago. They sucked. Good luck getting into position to do some dumbbell presses with 100lbs and that 1" diameter bar digging a hole in your thigh as you set up.
    That's a good point. I haven't used spinlocks but I have used loadable handles and they have that drawback (among others).
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    Mrs Flex sent me an email telling me the last 2 boxes arrived this afternoon.

    I'll do a review vid tomorrow or Saturday.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Canadian money.
    i'm actually impressed they have an adj dumbbell going up to $200 lbs
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    Coop showed a preview of the product on instagram for the upcoming review. He seemed to have gotten a updated design I have not seen before. It looked 100x better than the very improvised look of the ones in badass website.

    He even had very nice pancake plates on the instagram post. The plates from badass look terrible compared to standard cap pancake plates.
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    Here's preview of new design. Equally functional as I do think both old and new design are way better than spinlocks. The new one just looks more "badass"

    Edit: just realized it seems like a totally different company that's also canadian. Similar color sticker in end cap had me confused.

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    Originally Posted by DarthCholo View Post
    Here's preview of new design. Equally functional as I do think both old and new design are way better than spinlocks. The new one just looks more "badass"

    Edit: just realized it seems like a totally different company that's also canadian. Similar color sticker in end cap had me confused.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CIBFm...d=jy925rd7cm96
    Very similar, and also all sold out. Similarly priced to.
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    These dumbbells look quite interesting. Once you guys have used them enough to give a review I may decide to sell my set and buy some.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    The finish on the plates I have is not perfect but it's good enough. These are weights for a home gym, not a centerpiece for a living-room table. I am not too concerned as long as they react to gravity as expected.
    Post up some pics, let's see more of the condition of the product...
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    Post up some pics, let's see more of the condition of the product...
    I have no issues with it; here you go:










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    People here tend to have high standards so it's good to get a chance to see the actual product to compare against the quality / price of Ironmaster.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    I have no issues with it; here you go:










    With strong welds it should last a lifetime. This design is so simple don't know why it isn't more popular.
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    Originally Posted by DarthCholo View Post
    With strong welds it should last a lifetime. This design is so simple don't know why it isn't more popular.
    From the reviews I've seen so far, they appear to be absolutely bulletproof.
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    Originally Posted by DarthCholo View Post
    With strong welds it should last a lifetime. This design is so simple don't know why it isn't more popular.
    Maybe Ironmaster still holds the patent for the handles here in the states?
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    Maybe Ironmaster still holds the patent for the handles here in the states?
    They still seem to hold the worldwide patent for a half thread and fitted plates.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    They still seem to hold the worldwide patent for a half thread and fitted plates.
    Hmmn, just wondered if they still had this one given it's an old Ironmaster/Hoist design. Appears to be a nice option for those up North though!
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    Hmmn, just wondered if they still had this one given it's an old Ironmaster/Hoist design. Appears to be a nice option for those up North though!
    This week, I've seen at least 3 different dumbbells that have the same design as the Baadass dumbbells. If the IronMaster/Hoist patents weren't still in effect, I'm pretty sure fitted and/or slotted plates and the half thread would be being used, unless the tooling cost is prohibitive, which is a distinct possibility.
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    People here tend to have high standards so it's good to get a chance to see the actual product to compare against the quality / price of Ironmaster.
    From what I understand the owner of the company had a machine shop and decided to make these. He didn't start the business with the intention of making dumbbells. That's why the plates are the way there are, because they are machined, as opposed to cast. Casting a plate will leave it with a roughish surface (unless high pressure die cast) and the paint will stick better. Also it would allow for having the weight to be stamped into each plate because you just build that into the mould once and done.

    The machined plates are very smooth, so the paint doesn't adhere to them very well. He could sandblast them first to roughen them up and the paint would look much better, but that would be a huge expense. And also he could use a CNC to etch in the weight into the steel instead of using stickers that will eventually wear off, but again that would be a huge expense.

    In a perfect world those two things alone would make this a much more polished product. And lastly he gives you hockey pucks with holes drilled in them for when you're configuring them with very little weight, so the plates don't flop around. Again, if he was able to manufacture a rubber piece that looked a little better this product would be world class. For me personally I will never have the hockey pucks in there because I would never configure them that lights (I think under 25 lbs maybe).

    I did my research and I knew exactly what I was getting and I am not disappointed. Talked with the dude via DMs on IG an he is very cool and has a lifelong interest in bodybuilding. I would much rather support him as a fellow Canadian than some Chinese company or Amazon or just about anyone else.
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    Excellent explanation, Flex. I think the 'hockey pucks' is a brilliant idea, much better (and less expensive) than having to use different sets of screws.
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    One thing, coming as someone that has been using Prostyle handles for this, it would be nice to see the end caps with a 1/2" drive female socket so I could insert a ratchet or breaker to tighten/loosen them further or spin them faster. I use a sliding T handle and it spins the 5/8" bolts out pretty fast on my prostyle handles but the whole thing is time consuming regardless. Might be something to suggest.
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    Originally Posted by ampire View Post
    One thing, coming as someone that has been using Prostyle handles for this, it would be nice to see the end caps with a 1/2" drive female end so I could insert a ratchet or breaker to tighten/loosen them further or spin them faster. I use a sliding T handle and it spins the 5/8" bolts out pretty fast on my prostyle handles but the whole thing is time consuming regardless. Might be something to suggest.
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    I am just patiently waiting for Ironmasters. Long wait. Been trying a few local classifieds but they keep selling before I get to them.
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    Originally Posted by ampire View Post
    I am just patiently waiting for Ironmasters. Long wait. Been trying a few local classifieds but they keep selling before I get to them.
    A set of Ironmasters to 120lb is $USD 1,000. Sold out. And they are Square. LOL. Why?

    A set of BAADASS to to 122.5lbs is $USD 750. Available now. Round like a dumbbell should be.

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    I am just patiently waiting for Ironmasters. Long wait. Been trying a few local classifieds but they keep selling before I get to them.
    I just posted the link because those dumbbells come with a spanner to loosen or tighten the bolts.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    A set of Ironmasters ... And they are Square. LOL. Why?
    So they can easily lock into each other and not have to be turned on their sides to load.

    Just saying.
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