Tomorrow we will either see a bunch of

[Cass40]

Immunity is creditable, hence strong immunity fights Covid, masks aren’t 100 percent, but immunity is much better than masks.

The point of all of it is people without Covid wear masks, that’s silly. If I know I don’t have it, no point in masking period.

Yes but you're in a risk group cos obese.

[mtpockets]

The point of all of it is people without Covid wear masks, that’s silly. If I know I don’t have it, no point in masking period.

How the fuk do you know you don't have it? Have you heard of the term Asymptomatic?


(of a condition or a person) producing or showing no symptoms.
"infection is usually asymptomatic"

^^^ is a big deal with Covid



Do you have a Magic 8 ball you ask for this?






I'll wait

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Yes but you're in a risk group cos obese.

That wasn’t very nice.

[Cass40]

That wasn’t very nice.

Neither are obesity related diseases in the US.

[Plateauplower]

Isn’t that because there is more than one type of mask? N95 masks are for medical personnel to protect themselves, home made or other lower grade masks that people use in construction do not necessarily have the required fabric density to filter a virus from coming in, but they do reduce the distance that your breath spreads, especially while talking or coughing etc.

While I disagree with the strategy, telling the masses about reasons why masks aren’t necessarily as good as people think, as they did at the beginning, is probably more efficient at stopping people from hamster buying every N95 mask from here to Wuhan then saying “please leave the N95’s to the medical professionals and cover your self with a homemade cloth.”

Once they discovered about the spread of it without having symptoms they recommended to cover your face.

An N95 is not PPE for an airborne virus. It is *better* than a procedural mask or a bandana around your face, but I wouldn't call it PPE. PPE would include a full face APR or PAPR or supplied air system depending on the biological hazard implications (Biohazard or Bio-levels are based on lethality of the etiological agent). There was a study I may have linked here way back in March or April when the initial mask debates were happening before CDC changed course. It was a study of respiratory disease transmission in hospitals where both patients and staff wore a variety of mask types. N95s were only marginally better than a procedural mask, but the mask wearing (done correctly) by both patients, visitors, and staff significantly reduced transmission of a variety of respiratory illnesses (other common coronaviruses included). As an Occupational Safety professional it drives me crazy when people call a piece of cloth on their face PPE. It is not Personal Protective Equipment as much as it is Personnel Protective Equipment...N95 respirators are designed to filter 95% of particulate down to .3 Microns, The virus is 50-200 nanometers (.3 microns is 300 nanometers). They help and viruses are typically somewhat "sticky" but even N95s are not what I would professionally call PPE for airborne pathogens.

All of the stuff works together to HELP reduce transmission. The only way to prevent it is to stay away from people since even actual PPE can fail. Hierarchy of Controls...They like to have the N95s for medical workers because even though they only perform marginally better, they provide more mental relief and feelings of safety so they all don't walk off the job.

[7Seconds]

An N95 is not PPE for an airborne virus. It is *better* than a procedural mask or a bandana around your face, but I wouldn't call it PPE. PPE would include a full face APR or PAPR or supplied air system depending on the biological hazard implications (Biohazard or Bio-levels are based on lethality of the etiological agent). There was a study I may have linked here way back in March. It was a study of respiratory disease transmission in hospitals where both patients and staff wore a variety of mask types. N95s were only marginally better than a procedural mask, but the mask wearing (done correctly) by both patients, visitors, and staff significantly reduced transmission of a variety of respiratory illnesses (other common coronaviruses included). As an Occupational Safety professional it drives me crazy when people call a piece of cloth on their face PPE. It is not Personal Protective Equipment as much as it is Personnel Protective Equipment...N95 respirators are designed to filter 95% of particulate down to .3 Microns, The virus is 50-200 nanometers (.3 microns is 300 nanometers). They help and viruses are typically somewhat "sticky" but even N95s are not what I would professionally call PPE for airborne pathogens.

All of the stuff works together to HELP reduce transmission. The only way to prevent it is to stay away from people since even actual PPE can fail. Hierarchy of Controls...

I am never actually sure if you are correcting me or not because I am generally not smart enough to digest most of what you post about your job. But at this point I am not to concerned as judgement has been given by Mr. Copeland and this thing should be cleared out by Christmas.

[mtpockets]

[Plateauplower]

I am never actually sure if you are correcting me or not because I am generally not smart enough to digest most of what you post about your job. But at this point I am not to concerned as judgement has been given by Mr. Copeland and this thing should be cleared out by Christmas.

Just shoveling more $hit into the mask debate IMHO, if the vaccines are effective as they are stating, and we have multiple different effective vaccines, that are already being mass produced before approval so they are ready for distribution, I think we could be out of corona times by spring. It will take time to vaccinate all the willing just here in the US where we have better logistics than many places... I'm not getting poked cause I'm confident I had it in January, and also confident in my belief that post infection immunity will last for years/decades. I work in critical infrastructure, so my family and I will likely have the opportunity to get dosed before the general public, but I'll save my doses for LWW since he's obese and can't wear a mask

[LWW]

Yes but you're in a risk group cos obese.

I doubt that, I have a top level immune strength.

Generally a bodybuilder that is cut down to show levels are in weaker condition, most strongman carry more body fat.

But we dont need to get too involved there, it’s just in general, there are freaks in the world and also drug use that flips the tables on all that analysis.

[7Seconds]

I doubt that, I have a top level immune strength.

Generally a bodybuilder that is cut down to show levels are in weaker condition, most strongman carry more body fat.

But we dont need to get too involved there, it’s just in general, there are freaks in the world and also drug use that flips the tables on all that analysis.

A little late for that.


+++ And as I have lost track in what thread was talking about what I will post this here because it’s on top.

COURT NEWS: Former Trump attorney Sidney Powell has filed a federal lawsuit seeking to have @realDonaldTrump declared winner of Wisconsin's electoral votes.

Among other things, suit seeks 48 hours of security footage from the TCF Center from Nov. 3-4.

TCF Center is in Detroit.

Quite a team.

[LWW]

, I think we could be out of corona times by spring.)

This is for Farley, I stated that shorty after Biden is in, meaning a few months after the new year, we wont be seeing much Covid.

So, Perhaps Farley you can wage a bet with Mr. Plower?????

[mtpockets]

I doubt that, I have a top level immune strength.

You sound like Trump.

[7Seconds]

This is for Farley, I stated that shorty after Biden is in, meaning a few months after the new year, we wont be seeing much Covid.

Personally, I don’t think the shorty will be in until 2024. Biden completes his first term and then lets Harris run in 2024.

++ Always read that as Plateuapower not plower.

[7Seconds]

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/sta...59569739685889

BREAKING: Attorney General Bill Barr has just arrived at the White House after telling the @AP “the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.”

“With all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn’t been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation. We have gathered ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states, which they have not examined. We have many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. As far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the DOJ. The Justice Department also hasn’t audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth.
“Nonetheless, we will continue our pursuit of the truth through the judicial system and state legislatures, and continue toward the Constitution’s mandate and ensuring that every legal vote is counted and every illegal vote is not. Again, with the greatest respect to the Attorney General, his opinion appears to be without any knowledge or investigation of the substantial irregularities and evidence of systemic fraud.”
- Rudy Giuliani, Attorney for President Trump, and Jenna Ellis, Trump Campaign Senior Legal Adviser and Attorney for President Trump

Barr is obviously lying or just hadn’t turned on the PA, AZ, or MI hearings at all. SMH


AG Barr is busy today.

2:19pm ET: Barr tells @AP there is no evidence of fraud that would sway 2020 election outcome

2:54pm ET: Barr spotted entering the White House

3:00pm ET: Barr announces that he appointed John Durham as special counsel to investigate Russia probe

[Jtbny]

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/sta...59569739685889

BREAKING: Attorney General Bill Barr has just arrived at the White House after telling the @AP “the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.”







Barr is obviously lying or just hadn’t turned on the PA, AZ, or MI hearings at all. SMH


AG Barr is busy today.

Good on Rudy for continuing this charade. Trumps bills wont pay themselves so let them fleece the rubes for every penny they can get. I urge all Trump sycophants to continue to send money in to STOP THE STEAL.

[Farley1324]

Immunity is creditable, hence strong immunity fights Covid, masks aren’t 100 percent, but immunity is much better than masks.

The point of all of it is people without Covid wear masks, that’s silly. If I know I don’t have it, no point in masking period.

Yes, you know you don't have it like you know the earth is flat.

Stop being such a damn commie

[Farley1324]

This is for Farley, I stated that shorty after Biden is in, meaning a few months after the new year, we wont be seeing much Covid.

So, Perhaps Farley you can wage a bet with Mr. Plower?????

Would you mind linking to where you said that?

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Looks like Barr is trying pretty hard to get fired. lol

NEW: Unsealed court document in DC reveals DOJ investigating an alleged "secret lobbying scheme" and a bribery conspiracy that offered "a substantial political contribution in exchange for a presidential pardon or reprieve of sentence.” @kpolantz

Prosecutors told the court they wanted permission to the filter team's holdings. The prosecutors believed the devices revealed emails that showed allegedly criminal activity, including a "secret lobbying scheme" and a bribery conspiracy that offered "a substantial political contribution in exchange for a presidential pardon or reprieve of sentence" for a convicted defendant whose name is redacted, according to the redacted documents. Communications between attorneys and clients are typically privileged and kept from prosecutors as they build their cases, but in this situation, Howell allowed the prosecutors access. Attorney-client communications are not protected as privileged under the law when there is discussion of a crime, among other exceptions.

"The political strategy to obtain a presidential pardon was 'parallel' to and distinct from [redacted]'s role as an attorney-advocate for [redacted name]," Howell wrote in her court order. The grand jury investigation also appears to relate to unnamed people acting as unregistered "lobbyists to senior White House officials" as they sought to secure a pardon and use an intermediary to send a bribe, the unsealed court records say.

https://twitter.com/shimonpro/status...624804352?s=21

[LWW]

Would you mind linking to where you said that?

Yes I do mind, Fuk that, I don't have that kinda time.

And to your response you can piss off, I never gave an exact date or a month, I only said something of the affect shorty after Biden is in (ok that is mid-January, now think AFTER but SHORTLY).

WUT, you scared to request a wager against Mr. Plower?????

[Farley1324]

Yes I do mind, Fuk that, I don't have that kinda time.

And to your response you can piss off, I gave a date or a month, I only said something of the affect shorty after Biden is in (ok that is mid-January, now think AFTER but SHORTLY).

WUT, you scared to request a wager against Mr. Plower?????

Just pointing out that what you said, and what he said, are completely different things. What you said was wrong and never had a chance to be right, what he said could yet come to pass, possibly

[LWW]

Just pointing out that what you said, and what he said, are completely different things. What you said was wrong and never had a chance to be right, what he said could yet come to pass, possibly

I said shortly after Biden is "IN", Mr. Plower said "BY" spring. This could be March????? Hell, I'll call early summer as, shortly after Biden is in.

[Farley1324]

I said shortly after Biden is "IN", Mr. Plower said "BY" spring. This could be March????? Hell, I'll call early summer as, shortly after Biden is in.

lol, you can make up whatever you want, but when you previously talked about covid magically going away after this or that with biden, you weren't talking early summer.

Again, feel free to do what you literally always do on every topic, which is make up random sht based on nothing.

[mtpockets]

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 U.S. Senator urges SCOTUS to throw out seven million votes by registered voters who followed the rules. 👍

RELEASE: Sen. Cruz Urges U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Emergency Appeal on Pennsylvania Election Challenge

https://twitter.com/sentedcruz/statu...368806401?s=21

[LWW]

lol, you can make up whatever you want, but when you previously talked about covid magically going away after this or that with biden, you weren't talking early summer.

Again, feel free to do what you literally always do on every topic, which is make up random sht based on nothing.

You got me, I literally meant, the minute he takes office.

If Trump was in, we'd see Covid at least another full year, even with a vaccine.

I don't care Farley, go make a wager with someone else, I don't do that $hit.

BTW, I just stumbled on that the Philly mob boss (who has been in and out of prison since the 90s) is looking at more time and willing to spill the beans on Biden, apparently they had two houses in South Philly with people filling out Ballots for Biden. He's looking to make a deal to reduce his current legal problems? He's out now, and wants to keep it that way.

[Plateauplower]

I said shortly after Biden is "IN", Mr. Plower said "BY" spring. This could be March????? Hell, I'll call early summer as, shortly after Biden is in.

Hell I don’t have a crystal ball. It’s a guess based on estimates I’ve heard for vaccines currently made, production capacity for the double dose types, and how long at the minimum it will take to get a pretty sizable chunk of the people who will take it administered. The fear mongering will throttle back some too when the numbers start declining. IL not too long ago started adding “suspected” cases to the numbers, even though we have a very high testing capacity per capita. I think they want to ratchet the fear up a bit to get a better turnout of people willing to take the vaccine. Polling wasn’t looking really good at around 50-60% likely to take it last I heard.

[LWW]

Hell I don’t have a crystal ball.

I know dude, and I don't, LOL, so that's kinda the point. I'm messing with Farley, it seems he may have a crystal ball though?

All I was stating was "ball park" estimates. LOL

[Farley1324]

I don't care Farley

You say you don't have time or don't care, then post every 3 minutes for the next two hours lmao

[Bando]

lol, you can make up whatever you want, but when you previously talked about covid magically going away after this or that with biden, you weren't talking early summer.

I'm a "orange man bad" guy but I have to grudgingly admit that the vaccine is happening in the timeline he said it would when everyone else said different.

[LWW]

I'm a "orange man bad" guy but I have to grudgingly admit that the vaccine is happening in the timeline he said it would when everyone else said different.

And now that Trump lost the election, it's gonna go that way, however had Trump won, I believe the democrat creeps would find anyway they can to keep the vaccine away for as long as possible.

I used to think democrat party couldn't be so evil, but after these last 4 years, I've seen otherwise.