Defending his religion does not mean he condones some atrocity.
People have this insane idea of expecting people to be all in or nothing.
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Thread: Kabib is just another nutter:
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11-02-2020, 03:44 PM #61
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11-02-2020, 05:49 PM #62
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11-02-2020, 07:02 PM #63
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11-02-2020, 07:39 PM #64
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11-03-2020, 12:43 AM #65
this parts just wrong brah, sorry. Any terrorist attack is completely opposite to Islam. The terrorist ideology is to get people to hate Muslims, so they can attempt to put Muslims in a position that would radicalize and side with theirs.
It's not working as they have planned.
These same guys attacked a university in Kabul yesterday killing 20+ Muslim students, I'm guessing the terrorists were the true Muslims but the students werent
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11-03-2020, 12:44 AM #66
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11-03-2020, 12:47 AM #67
No it doesnt man, im done arguing this point.
Look at this link:
http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/
Muslims have made their stance against terrorism clear. If the position that you want to take is that the vast majority of Muslims engage in sympathizing with terrorists, despite being the biggest victim of terrorism, then I guess that's your prerogative.
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11-03-2020, 08:57 AM #68
Well then it was a pretty foolish time to voice his opinion on the matter. Macron doesn’t like that drawings are drawn either (as he stated in the Al Jazeera interview), but he is simply defending the free speech that his country has allowed for ages. To the simple eye it looks like he is defending the reaction to the drawings, its unfortunate but that’s what it looks like.
France doesnt take too kindly to the whole state vs religion thing, as can be seen in their history.
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11-03-2020, 11:06 AM #69
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11-03-2020, 11:13 AM #70
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11-03-2020, 11:50 AM #71
Bro I’m a huge Khabib fan but stop defending him here. I’m Muslim too. Fact of the matter is tons of these Muslims are absolute fukking morons with how they act around Khabib. They make ridiculous exaggerated unsubstantiated claims that drag religion unnecessarily into everything and say shyt that’s inconsistent with the teachings of their own religion and filled with logical fallacies and is extremely cringe worthy.
This isn’t sucking up to whites it’s fact. I’m more outspoken on white militaries than most people I know so don’t give me that shyt.
The fact of the matter is Khabib is a normal human being with normal human biases. He’s not a great person. He’s a normal angry spaz who succumbs to his own biases justified or not and cannot look past that.
As someone with a huge platform after someone gets decapitated for him to make no mention of that and simply say that people who support the French pres should have their faces rearranged shows he’s merely normal. A highly empathetic person sees all sides and understands the influence they have with their platform. The only real great with this ability and imo no one matches him here is GSP. He’s a true example of what a perfect human should be like not Khabib. Khabib is not evil but he’s a normal fukker like you and me.
As someone with his platform he should have the brain to understand that after a beheading for him to make such a hot headed post without considering all sides of the story doesn’t make him wrong or unjustified in being angry but it merely shows that he’s a normal human not some great guy. A great person would be empathetic and considerate enough of their impact to condemn the pos who beheaded that teacher
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11-03-2020, 12:11 PM #72
This exactly. Repped. Hope things are well. I don’t think Khabib is low iq though. I think he just acts like one. I’ve realized intelligence and actually using intelligence to guide yourself through your biases and emotional attachments to form rational well thought out view points are worlds apart. Khabib is probably more extreme than 90% of Dagestanis so he’s not exactly an apt comparison to the average Muslim, millions of dollars and fame or not.
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11-03-2020, 07:49 PM #73
Yes, he is not low IQ but if you are brought up in an environment regardless of which hard core religion it is, it is very easy for us in the western world to judge and point fingers. He just doesn't know better because since he was able to speak, listen and process words, he has been told that X is the truth and Y is wrong. We talk about environment having a huge impact on a childs development but when it comes to religion people aimlessly shoot from the hip with blanket statements. I think we should all aim to understand before judging.
He has been told a story for 30 years with everything around him supporting it, imagine how hard it would be if his whole world came crumbling down because that story is actually a fairytale. He would have no basis for morals, ethics, right and wrong(debatable if anyone has these objectively).
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11-03-2020, 07:53 PM #74
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11-03-2020, 09:06 PM #75
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11-04-2020, 09:35 AM #76
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11-04-2020, 12:47 PM #77
pretty sure there is widespread condemnation buddy. That's because Christian's don't care about religion and they are only Christian in name, not because they actually believe in Christianity. Every Christian country at the moment is overrun with women with penises sporting purple hair. Because.... Christianity was never meant to work
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11-04-2020, 12:49 PM #78
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11-04-2020, 01:07 PM #79
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11-04-2020, 01:08 PM #80
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11-04-2020, 01:16 PM #81
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11-04-2020, 03:50 PM #82
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11-04-2020, 04:39 PM #83
To be fair Özil basically has to react that way.
You non-Germans probably weren't there, when it happened, but the guy caused a huge sh*tstorm in Germany for being close friends with Turkish President Erdogan, who at that time was murdering Kurds despite them oposing IS, during the last soccer world championship.
He was attacked in the German newspapers for months and struggled with the resulting harrassment. So yeah, he would probably say whatever he can to avoid the same media spotlight again.
(I am shure he is a moderate muslim though and oposed to any violence. There is really no comparing him to Khabib. Just compare his wedding pic above to Khabib's)
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11-04-2020, 05:01 PM #84
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11-04-2020, 06:41 PM #85
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11-04-2020, 06:42 PM #86
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11-04-2020, 08:46 PM #87
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11-05-2020, 06:59 AM #88
Or it could be that the two most important commandments in Christianity are
1) Love your God with all of your heart
2) Love you NEIGHBOR as you would love yourself
^^This is why Christians arent blowing up public places and sawing peoples heads off...
...and yes I agree the vast majority of "Christians" have nothing to do with Christianity.
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11-05-2020, 07:55 AM #89
Orly? Please tell me who caused the last genocide in Europe 30 years ago? Or.. why is the Russian orthodox church fighting the Ukrainian orthodox church?
Humans can be bad or good regardless of their religion. Same thing with Muslims, the vast majority of them arent even practicing the faith, only using it when its convenient to push their power hungry agenda.
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11-05-2020, 09:16 AM #90
Actually I kind of admire that(not fully covered where face isn't noticeable though), wouldn't even know if anyone of these Dagestanis or Chechens are married or have children because they don't put their family/private life on blast on Instagram etc. You have some of these other ufc fighters and just for their few minutes of fame in their octagon speech, their wife/gf comes out with the most "hey look at the size of my boobs, or ass, I'm just covering the tit" clothing. Sometime later "oh no why did my wife/gf cheat on me or left me for a bigger fish", she clearly wasn't make herself noticeable to the bigger fish ahead of time lmao.
Isn't Sweden like over 10% Muslim and by 2050 it'll be anywhere from 20-30%?
And about Russia...
“According to experts, Russia’s [Muslim] population will increase to 30 percent in a decade and a half,” said Ravil Gainutdin, the chairman of the Council of Muftis, a religious group representing Russia’s Muslim community.
Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov, an official in Russia’s Orthodox Church, agreed with Gainutdin’s forecast and predicted that “there won't be any Russians left in 2050.”
“It’s too late,” he told the Govorit Moskva radio station when asked if the demographic trend could be reversed.
So if there's like no more "Russians" in the future who's going to be in control of those thousands of nukes? Wish I could find that picture of Russian soldiers today, where it's all men from the Caucasus Mountains.Last edited by OttomanEmpire; 11-05-2020 at 09:51 AM.
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