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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    Lol at Rs picking up Senate seats. That discredits them right there. They aren't even competitive against incumbent Democrats besides Jones in Alabama.
    Trafalger Group was one of the most accurate pollsters at predicting senate and governor races in 2018.
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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    Trafalger Group was one of the most accurate pollsters at predicting senate and governor races in 2018.
    They aren't competitive against Democratic incumbents. They'll pick up Jones' seat in Alabama and that's it. Gardner and McSally are going to lose so they're a guaranteed -1 with the possibility to lose more and no real pickup opportunities. Maybe you read the polling wrong and it's Rs are going to hold the Senate?
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    Originally Posted by oreogasm View Post
    Wrong.
    Younger generations are always more liberal than older people, that doesn't change.
    However, Generation Z is the most conservative young generation in a very long time.
    People are becoming more conservative and nationalistic all over the world.
    The pendulum is swinging from the global secular order of the past century to a more nationalistic, conservative set of values.
    Conservatism is the new counter culture for young kids.
    For the first time since 2004 more people identify with Republicans than Democrats.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    LMAO.

    Okkkkkkkkk.

    Whoever wins this thing will be viewed at as illegitimate by 50% of the population.

    Republican voters are totally sold on ballot corruption, period. They are a wildcard in this whole process, because we don't know how they will respond if Trump actually loses.

    We already know the left will burn the entire country down if Biden loses.

    The situation is irreparable at this point, and you're bringing up issues that nobody cares about, such as climate change. A true wincel take.

    What, you think things are magically going to repair themselves, and we go back to the Obama days of a fully functional multicultural society (sarcasm) under a Biden admin?

    You think Trumpkins are going to completely abandon the things that are important to them for a leftist mindset of a total revamp of culture, government and political arithmetic?

    Just lol.

    We're in full blown societal collapse politically and economically, and uniting around climate change is going to save the system.

    Yessirrrrrrrrr.
    Then these super delusional people should be push broomed to regional labor camps in Montana, Kansas, Arkansas, and New Jersey where they can toil away in mines and on farms while given all the Mountain Dew and hydroxychloroquin they want until the end of their days. They will receive medical care from the Indian Health Services.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    I heard the guy who runs Trafalgar on the radio today. He's a political consultant, with no background in math or statistics. It seems they got lucky in that they predicted Trump, but they were just as bad as many others in determining the margins.

    Edit: and he described a number of practices which indicate their polls are not representative samples. They ad hoc chase voters with a variety of channels, which is extremely subject to confirmation bias.
    What Trafalgar does is as much scenario testing as actual polling, but in 2016, the Trump "how good can it get" scenario actually happened. Was is just a 100 year perfect storm or will it happen again? Seems doubtful, but we'll see I guess. If this year is going to track like 2016, the first thing that needs to happen is that the polls need to tighten over the weekend, as that is what happened then.
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    Originally Posted by SultanofBling View Post
    People are fed up with the current dumpster political situation, and its largely fanned by DJT and his nonsense with the media.
    You mean the media nonsense with DTJ.
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    Originally Posted by LargePeter View Post
    lmfao at polls

    Worked in 2016 didn't they?

    inb4 Bodhy claiming that this is completely different for some reason
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    Originally Posted by SultanofBling View Post
    If the Blue wipe is as significant as it's projecting to be, the GOP will have to do some serious soul-searching. Big factor of the 2016 election was the amount of people who did not vote. That seems to have changed, and, if those votes are Blue votes, then it's signalling to the GOP that their brand of politics isn't popular.

    If they survive the election/wave, then the GOP senators will have to push more left and away from the fringe, which I'd argue has alienated their party from many voters. Climate change, renewables, supporting our traditional allies should be on the table in 2020, but they're not. Instead its goose chases like Hunter Biden or "socialism". That means culling the tea party types, culling the deluded cavecels, shifting away from conspiracy towards greater transparency. Not to mention, formal participation in our democratic institutions, rather than trying to run roughshod over rules and procedure.

    People are fed up with the current dumpster political situation, and its largely fanned by DJT and his nonsense with the media.
    You should pre check in to your state psychiatric hospital in preparation for Trump’s second term. You’re already suffering from multiple psychological disorders and I fear what will happen come Nov 3.
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    not just the Republican party, the entire country will have trouble bouncing back. The media suppression and bias has been totally unprecedented and propagandized. There is no turning back now. We have one foot off the cliff.
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    I saw a poll recently where Biden was up 103 points nationally, just lol at trumpers at this point..
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    Originally Posted by LargePeter View Post
    lmfao at polls
    Polls are almost as funny as all the COPE being posted to avoid answering a fairly reasonable question.
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    Originally Posted by Reflexez View Post
    That's ~66% chance of a triple lock for Democrats, if that happens then what exactly would the Republican game plan be to try and turn things around in 2024?

    Do they go for Trump again and hope the Democrats suck enough for more populism?
    If not Trump then who could do the job, Cruz?
    Do they move policies more to the left to draw back voters?
    Is the tour over and every street corner has a pre-teen transgender hooker on it by 2022?
    Does none of this matter cause Trump is gonna BTFO the deep state again?
    I mean obviously they ditch Trump and likely do what the Dems did and find the safest possible candidate. I really think if they went with a black guy (not toooooo black of course, like Colin Powell-level black or Obama at most) they would decimate the Dems.
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    I mean obviously they ditch Trump and likely do what the Dems did and find the safest possible candidate. I really think if they went with a black guy (not toooooo black of course, like Colin Powell-level black or Obama at most) they would decimate the Dems.
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