**official whiny 'lil btch crew thread** - P4: It's easier to whine than take action!

[phaginator]

Cliffs of cliffs;

Men doing a cost-benefit analysis and more and more men decide it's not worth the trouble anymore.


Enjoy the decline boyos.

[Briisk]

I swear this exact thread with the same title was made last month.

But yeah, women are ruthless now, and they’re kicking ass in society for the most part.

If you want out of that, or at least don’t aim for a woman to be your goal, then yeah you can have it easy mode by just getting enough to be self sufficient, with no woman or child to look after.

[lllEZRAlll]

Don't know don't care. Seems like a bunch of scared little boys to me. If you wanna run with the big dogs - you have to get off the porch. Scary I know, dog eat dog world after all. Hahaha

[MrAWatts]

Men are demoralized, detached, disengaged. Passive in the face of a society that increasingly treats them as expendable or undervalued.

When was the last time you read or watched something that made you appreciate who you are as a man.

Biggest load of BS I have ever read. Anyone that relies on anyone else for motivation or drive is a fukking loser and doesn't deserve success anyways. Not everyone is meant to be a winner. If you can't find it in yourself to get off your ass and make something of yourself then you have nobody to blame but yourself when you have a shtty life.

[DDSF1]

The feminine female empowerment area is oversaturated. They get a book that kicks them in the ass every couple of weeks, whereas men might get one every decade.

Men are demoralized, detached, disengaged. Passive in the face of a society that increasingly treats them as expendable or undervalued.

When was the last time you read or watched something that made you appreciate who you are as a man.

Good points.

Speaking for myself, when I make an intellectual or spiritual advance I feel that appreciation of manhood and what it means to be a man--truly to be found in the spiritual and intellectual realms.

[Ikeman83]

Have you seen society lately?

[IronILLinois]

this guy literally made the same exact thread a couple months ago. lame ass phaggot

[DavidEaslea]

When you can't get a woman you give up. What's the point of working if you still can't get a woman after all that? Might as well just rot.

[Imaneya]

Because there's nothing like a nice house that's an escape from the world's harshness, that's why. Are you saying you'd live in a 500sq apartment if you didn't care about women?

Would you be fat and sloppy if you didn't care about women?

Would you stop taking showers if you didn't care about women?

Would you stop breathing if you didn't care about women? What.

No, because I realized early on that self-determination is everything, so rotting is not an option.

A lot of men don't have this mindset though, and saying they're wrong is purely subjective. If they're choosing to rot and not harming anyone else, then you either find them an incentive to do otherwise or you can't judge them.

Men who do things for women tend to fail at life. You're a loser who's life revolves around women and when they smell the desperation they won't respect you and leave you with the house and child support. Women don't respect men who bow down in their presence. They don't respect slaves, they respect leaders. That's why the alpha leader always gets his choice of women

Very bluepilled take.

Caring about something doesn't mean your life revolves around it.

Women don't care about 'alphas' anymore either, that chit is a pua meme. Women now measure alpha in how 'instagramable' you are. Only men care about alphas, so it can pay off in the regard if you want to lead other men in business etc.

Most men are desperate, it's why you see them marrying slampigs and cock-carousel bandits, and they seem outwardly happy doing so.

[MikeLowrrrey]

Biggest load of BS I have ever read. Anyone that relies on anyone else for motivation or drive is a fukking loser and doesn't deserve success anyways. Not everyone is meant to be a winner. If you can't find it in yourself to get off your ass and make something of yourself then you have nobody to blame but yourself when you have a shtty life.

Quoted for the truth. LOL at these self haters

[MikeLowrrrey]

Would you stop breathing if you didn't care about women? What.

No, because I realized early on that self-determination is everything, so rotting is not an option.

A lot of men don't have this mindset though, and saying they're wrong is purely subjective. If they're choosing to rot and not harming anyone else, then you either find them an incentive to do otherwise or you can't judge them.



Very bluepilled take.

Caring about something doesn't mean your life revolves around it.

Women don't care about 'alphas' anymore either, that chit is a pua meme. Women now measure alpha in how 'instagramable' you are. Only men care about alphas, so it can pay off in the regard if you want to lead other men in business etc.

Most men are desperate, it's why you see them marrying slampigs and cock-carousel bandits, and they seem outwardly happy doing so.

You said it yourself, If you didn't care about women you'd live in the woods. That tells me your life revolves around women, you do certain things because of women.

You worship the ground women stand on, you're a loser. Women don't respect men like you, that's why they divorce and take half of everything you earned.

[irmocool]

Theres no one to blame but the individual males themselves. Being born male of any race in this country is an absolute priviledge. Theres so much you can do to improve your stock as long as your willing to work on yourself. Most modern males lack a foundation of masculinity, most talk and look like females. They lack dominance...its all about a will to dominate. You were the sperm that outcompeted the MILLIONS of other sperm. Act like it

[ProudFeminist]

ITT: nothing but virgins and cucks

[dogorman7]

Men are expected to be perfect from a very early age. I don’t blame some of them. Atleast not the social or chasing ceo status part. Look at the misc , I’m 23 but apparently I’m already a horrible loser and I’m supposed to kill my self because I don’t already make 6 figures or drive a brand new f150 by their logic. The people who tell me that are in their 30s. Everyone hates the younger gen.

As far as being an absolute burnout , I notice that more with women my age than guys.

They’res always stoners who work whatever minimum wage job they can get for their weed while living with parents but most of them are either in a trade or working towards something better like a lawyer, like the Moroccan roomate I had for ex.

Why would a woman have to work at all these days ? Women aren’t earning more than men unless you’re counting only fans and simp salaries.

[SpeakethTruth]

Yeah, simps are ruling themselves out of the game.

They are making average looking girls rich lol

What a ridiculous situation. If simps had self respect, average looking girls wouldn't be asking for donations on twitch/onlycucks, they'd be asking "would you like fries with that?".

[plebmaximus]

That's an extreme minority. Alot of people just plain like the convenience of urban living.

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Most people aren't too concerned about Chad this Stacey that, they don't give a fk about becoming 10K/Ceo per (tho they wouldn't mind, they just don't obsess about it).


Most people are happy going to work, go back to their family, watch some tv/Netflix and mind their kids if they have some. Yes that's chit ton of people. You don't hear about them because they dont go to whinge on the Internet...

It's not as bad as it's pictured here, I promise.

[plebmaximus]

This isn’t actually true.

The only place where physique standards have changed is people in the fitness community.

A regular person thinks anyone lean and lifts is ripped.

^^ True.

I do have body dysmorphia because I've been in the 'fitness industry' for a long time. Social media expectations too.

[Imaneya]

You said it yourself, If you didn't care about women you'd live in the woods. That tells me your life revolves around women, you do certain things because of women.

You worship the ground women stand on, you're a loser. Women don't respect men like you, that's why they divorce and take half of everything you earned.

Lmao good read.

Every take of yours itt has been dead wrong, Low IQ is strong.

I'm a single guy with money in the bank to not work another 10 years, women come and go.

Yeah I do 'certain things' like talking to women that I like, or dress well if I go to a bar, or pay for drinks on a date. You're saying you're such alpha that you don't do anything at all?

You're a psuedo alpha male and mgtow phag collecting 'nice things' for the sake of it, in your own words. The dishonesty from low IQ morons like you is what actually fuks over a lot of young men.

Stay alpha, gay boy.

[MikeLowrrrey]

Lmao good read.

Every take of yours itt has been dead wrong, Low IQ is strong.

I'm a single guy with money in the bank to not work another 10 years, women come and go.

Yeah I do 'certain things' like talking to women that I like, or dress well if I go to a bar, or pay for drinks on a date. You're saying you're such alpha that you don't do anything at all?

You're a psuedo alpha male and mgtow phag collecting 'nice things' for the sake of it, in your own words. The dishonesty from low IQ morons like you is what actually fuks over a lot of young men.

Stay alpha, gay boy.

Nice guys finish last buddy boyo. Go slave at that job you hate to impress some woman, meanwhile Chad who works at Walmart bangs for NOTHING LMAO.

[CulturalDecay]

I should have specified that i was talking about the western world. Im not that familiar with the way countries like China and India are being run. Culturally i know they are extremely different.

Yeah my main point was no so much about China / India - but moreso indirectly pointing out that where all of the formerly middle class / working class jobs have been shipped off to. The only reason the baby boomers have so much more wealth than every every generation, is because their parents (The Greatest Generation) sacrificed their lives (My Grandfather being one of them - B-24 bomber in the 450th) bombing the ever loving crap out of every manufacturing center in the industrialized world.

Hence why uneducated men could walk into an auto-manufacturing plant in Detroit and automatically get a job that puts them in the upper-middle class where they are able to support a wife, 2 kids, cars, vacations, retirement, pension, toys etc.

An entire generation of men (Boomers) were paid outrageous amounts of money....many multiples more than they were worth. Extrapolate this out to nearly all manufacturing job. So when that entire industry, which sustains the middle class and the "American Dream" is all outsourced - is what we are seeing now really surprising?

Before any Econ major jumps down my throat - of course this is a simplified example.


As for Hypergamy - that hasn't changed though, this is a woman's nature, they are as hypergamous now as they were in 1950, as they were in 1900, as they were in 1850...etc.


Hypergamy isnt a symptom though, its a cause. Women are picking due to biological programation the best of the best, and for obvious reasons, not all men can be the best of the best.

Romance and sex is the #1 driving factor for men, and the new western society has 90% of men struggling to find their equal. That is demotivating.[/QUOTE]

[elterrible987]

80/20 rule

so many guys have zero chance of getting any woman they could actually maintain an erection with to fuk

so why even bother, imagine average to below average intelligence and average to below average looks, why even go to a chitty pleb job every day just to pay the rent on a crappy 1 bedroom apartment that you will never bring a woman to anyways. might as well stay at home and play xbox all day, fuk it

[lukefaulky32]

Because all woman are worthless cum dumpsters. Smash and run as quick as you can before they destroy your life!

[JoeDelts]

Going out and meeting IRL a woman doesnt remove the 10 options she has on her phone who are simply better looking or more interesting. You are arguing against a basic fact of biology which is hypergamy. The 80-20 rule is as old as prostitution brah.

Im not going to get into a back and forth with you about something so simple and easy to see, so lets just agree to disagree then.

Surprised nobody's mentioned whoremaxxing yet. Guys today have an endless supply of whores on demand with zero effort or fear of rejection. Kind of like a 7/10 female on Tinder. That's gotta play into it for some guys. Though this might be more a symptom of the problem than a root cause.

[Imaneya]

Nice guys finish last buddy boyo. Go slave at that job you hate to impress some woman, meanwhile Chad who works at Walmart bangs for NOTHING LMAO.

Self-employed, work when i wnt.

Guarantee you're the type of simp girls show me on their phones. Psuedo alphas are often the biggest simps.

[MikeLowrrrey]

Self-employed, work when i wnt.

Guarantee you're the type of simp girls show me on their phones. Psuedo alphas are often the biggest simps.

Doesn't matter, YOU said it yourself: You'd live in a shack in the woods if you didn't care for women. What kind of retarded thing is that LMAOOO. Living in the actual woods???

Let me put that in other words for you: Life isn't worth living without a woman


You're a weak cuck LMAO

[Jhamaican]

Doesn't matter, YOU said it yourself: You'd live in a shack in the woods if you didn't care for women. What kind of retarded thing is that LMAOOO. Living in the actual woods???

Let me put that in other words for you: Life isn't worth living without a woman


You're a weak cuck LMAO

You sound seriously unhinged

Seek help (srs)

[NDMD]

You're either surrounding yourself with dudes that are giving up on life or you spend too much time on the internet reading about incels. Don't see why anyone would otherwise give this topic a thought

[Imaneya]

Doesn't matter, YOU said it yourself: You'd live in a shack in the woods if you didn't care for women. What kind of retarded thing is that LMAOOO. Living in the actual woods???

Let me put that in other words for you: Life isn't worth living without a woman


You're a weak cuck LMAO

The idea of living in natural solitude and self-sustenance sounds more appealing than the concrete jungle. A lot of city people share this sentiment, not that crazy.

My original point to op was men don't have the same incentives to go out and excel, largely due to lack of romantic prospects.

You're point was men should excel anyway without any incentives, and should just collect 'nice things' like women do.

You're a consumerist cuck, and almost certainly a simp. Big boy alpha only in your own mind.

[58220]

Yeah my main point was no so much about China / India - but moreso indirectly pointing out that where all of the formerly middle class / working class jobs have been shipped off to. The only reason the baby boomers have so much more wealth than every every generation, is because their parents (The Greatest Generation) sacrificed their lives (My Grandfather being one of them - B-24 bomber in the 450th) bombing the ever loving crap out of every manufacturing center in the industrialized world.

Hence why uneducated men could walk into an auto-manufacturing plant in Detroit and automatically get a job that puts them in the upper-middle class where they are able to support a wife, 2 kids, cars, vacations, retirement, pension, toys etc.

An entire generation of men (Boomers) were paid outrageous amounts of money....many multiples more than they were worth. Extrapolate this out to nearly all manufacturing job. So when that entire industry, which sustains the middle class and the "American Dream" is all outsourced - is what we are seeing now really surprising?

Before any Econ major jumps down my throat - of course this is a simplified example.


As for Hypergamy - that hasn't changed though, this is a woman's nature, they are as hypergamous now as they were in 1950, as they were in 1900, as they were in 1850...etc.


Hypergamy isnt a symptom though, its a cause. Women are picking due to biological programation the best of the best, and for obvious reasons, not all men can be the best of the best.

Romance and sex is the #1 driving factor for men, and the new western society has 90% of men struggling to find their equal. That is demotivating.

[/QUOTE]
male malaise like every other problem in the world is caused by capitalism, capitalists need to be hunted down and thrown into the ocean to be eaten by sharks, it's the only way to save humanity

[Ken-O]

Yeah my main point was no so much about China / India - but moreso indirectly pointing out that where all of the formerly middle class / working class jobs have been shipped off to. The only reason the baby boomers have so much more wealth than every every generation, is because their parents (The Greatest Generation) sacrificed their lives (My Grandfather being one of them - B-24 bomber in the 450th) bombing the ever loving crap out of every manufacturing center in the industrialized world.

Hence why uneducated men could walk into an auto-manufacturing plant in Detroit and automatically get a job that puts them in the upper-middle class where they are able to support a wife, 2 kids, cars, vacations, retirement, pension, toys etc.

An entire generation of men (Boomers) were paid outrageous amounts of money....many multiples more than they were worth. Extrapolate this out to nearly all manufacturing job. So when that entire industry, which sustains the middle class and the "American Dream" is all outsourced - is what we are seeing now really surprising?

Before any Econ major jumps down my throat - of course this is a simplified example.


As for Hypergamy - that hasn't changed though, this is a woman's nature, they are as hypergamous now as they were in 1950, as they were in 1900, as they were in 1850...etc.


Hypergamy isnt a symptom though, its a cause. Women are picking due to biological programation the best of the best, and for obvious reasons, not all men can be the best of the best.

Romance and sex is the #1 driving factor for men, and the new western society has 90% of men struggling to find their equal. That is demotivating.

[/QUOTE]


Appreciate your insight brah, very interesting.


As for hypergamy, I agree it hasn’t changed, it’s society what has changed (hypergamy is mainly taken to an extreme by social media tho).


Tough days to live in as an average man, that’s for sure. That’s why I always am sympathetic for miscers that say they are struggling.