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    99% of miscers would crash the plane too

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    Originally Posted by Shysty021 View Post
    They probably didnt want to eject because they were over a residential area...maybe they wanted to guide it to a safe location then eject because they wouldve felt guilty if it crashed in a house killing a whole family

    This is an unwritten rule amongst pilots. Try not to hit folks on ground if possible.
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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Maybe. Or maybe some other factor prevented it. Like pilot error or mechanical. Maybe the political opinions if true would have prevented them from being pilots and prevented them from dying. Or ensured they were qualified fully instead of skating through.

    I don't really know. No one does. It might be true they were fully qualified top tier pilots and it was all mechanical, and they knowingly sacrificed themselves to prevent civilian deaths.

    Either way RIP and thank you.
    Even fully qualified pilots make errors and crash. Even very experienced fully qualified pilots make errors and crash. If it was human error (which statistics suggest it is, but we shouldn’t even speculate until the investigation comes out), it doesn’t mean they were not fully qualified or “pushed through” in any way.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    I have not discussed any political ideology what so ever.

    How long have women been in military aviation? Compared to the combat arms inclusion you mentioned, how recent has forced diversity taken place in aviation? Do you think it was so recent that they push females through who do not meet the minimum standards? Do you think there are only a few women in aviation?
    Women have been in Military Aviation since 1941 at the latest but most likely since the 30s
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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    This is an unwritten rule amongst pilots. Try not to hit folks on ground if possible.
    What? okay maverick where did you hear that from? Tell me which flight school you attended to learn this incredible knowledge

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    Originally Posted by Exiled93 View Post
    Laughing at military members dying is anti military in my opinion.
    Then chit everyone I know and knew in the military is anti-military. It's not really laughing at them, it's making light out of your own possibility of dying the same way at any moment.
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    There were these two sloots who got through the initial Ranger School after a bunch of special treatment and lower standards.



    Muh empowerment.
    Moron Ranger School and RASP are two different things.
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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    Women have been in Military Aviation since 1941 at the latest but most likely since the 30s
    Right, so my point is women have been included in aviation so long, the need to “force diversify” the community doesn’t exist. I have seen no evidence to suggest it has ever happened, so the lack of need for it really doesn’t matter. Seeing as how people spewing this nonsense are passing along chit they literally just made up.
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    I don't trust the ugliness of that student woman

    women that ugly usually don't got their mind right too

    Probably did something autistic

    this ironmanlet guy is such an insufferable cuck too

    Shut the phuck up you twink video game nerd.
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    Originally Posted by theluckylad View Post
    What's with the disrespectful title and comments? Two young people who were willing to serve their nation have died, save those comments for instagram models/blm protestors, people who wouldn't dream of serving their country..
    This.

    Some of ya'll talk about making america great, and then turn around and diss on the armed forces.

    Plenty of members of our military die in accidents during training drills.

    Anybody dissing on our military, while NOT being in the military is just an arm chair tough guy with a confirmation bias.

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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    There were these two sloots who got through the initial Ranger School after a bunch of special treatment and lower standards.



    Muh empowerment.
    You're just mad they have an mos that gets trigger time, ya moon faced deck seaman dork

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    Originally Posted by jonmcd46 View Post
    What? okay maverick where did you hear that from? Tell me which flight school you attended to learn this incredible knowledge
    Multiple people.

    Family members that were military aircrew.

    My time in General Aviation

    My time in the USAF around air crews.

    I even lost a family member who turned away from a house that was at 1 o'clock off the extended runway.

    So I've heard it from a lot of Aviators.
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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    This.

    Some of ya'll talk about making america great, and then turn around and diss on the armed forces.

    Plenty of members of our military die in accidents during training drills.

    Anybody dissing on our military, while NOT being in the military is just an arm chair tough guy with a confirmation bias.
    Fuuuuukkkk off lol. This is the USA, not a military regime ran country where talking chit about our military is off limits.

    Don't get it twisted tremendous respect to those who serve, and more so those who serve 20. But I'll talk all the chit I want because they fight for it.
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    wtf, since when did we start letting sloots fly planes? i would trust AI over a female pilot (no sexist)

    what next? let them fly shuttles into space lol. no thanks jeff
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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Fuuuuukkkk off lol. This is the USA, not a military regime ran country where talking chit about our military is off limits.

    Don't get it twisted tremendous respect to those who serve, and more so those who serve 20. But I'll talk all the chit I want because they fight for it.
    You can say what you like

    That doesn't make you any less of a phaggot for saying it.

    But you can still express it

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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Right, so my point is women have been included in aviation so long, the need to “force diversify” the community doesn’t exist. I have seen no evidence to suggest it has ever happened, so the lack of need for it really doesn’t matter. Seeing as how people spewing this nonsense are passing along chit they literally just made up.

    Sometimes the ignorance I encounter here is mind numbing.

    Plenty of Male students make mistakes.

    Hell I was recently at the site where the Male Blue Angel pilot crashed in Tennessee.

    Or how about the B52 pilot that took down his whole crew that had a history of being reckless and playing loose with rules and procedures only to keep getting a pass?

    Look at the AOA!!!! That's textbook stall.

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    Originally Posted by TypeNirvash View Post
    You can say what you like

    That doesn't make you any less of a phaggot for saying it.

    But you can still express it
    Considering I was in the Army I will say what I like.
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    A little perspective.



    Literally every administrative action taken prior to a military aircraft launching is specifically designed for the legal investigation following a crash. These pilots records will be reviewed. There was a risk assessment where a certified mission briefer, and approval authority (usually a commander) were both briefed on, and subsequently approved every single aspect of this mission. There is absolutely zero chance that these pilots were not categorically qualified to conduct this mission. Zero chance. This mission was analyzed by many qualified people before even getting approval to take off. These people did this with an in depth understanding of military and civilian flight regulations, that specific aircraft, recent maintenance done it, the two pilots, etc.


    All of this work is done for every single flight because there will be a crash, and the military is showing it wasn’t because of a lack of training or anything.
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    Originally Posted by AWillis View Post
    wtf, since when did we start letting sloots fly planes? i would trust AI over a female pilot (no sexist)

    what next? let them fly shuttles into space lol. no thanks jeff
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    This is kinda weak bros. These were two young Americans who signed up to serve and some of you are just laughing at their death? They weren't idiot social medial whores who fell off a cliff taking that perfect shot.
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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    Sometimes the ignorance I encounter here is mind numbing.

    Plenty of Male students make mistakes.

    Hell I was recently at the site where the Male Blue Angel pilot crashed in Tennessee.

    Or how about the B52 pilot that took down his whole crew that had a history of being reckless and playing loose with rules and procedures only to keep getting a pass?
    Yeah. Like literally almost every other human error accident (of which there are many), involved males. Then this one pops up and “they crashed because they were female”.

    Not sure people could put their own ignorance on display any more than that.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    A little perspective.



    Literally every administrative action taken prior to a military aircraft launching is specifically designed for the legal investigation following a crash. These pilots records will be reviewed. There was a risk assessment where a certified mission briefer, and approval authority (usually a commander) were both briefed on, and subsequently approved every single aspect of this mission. There is absolutely zero chance that these pilots were not categorically qualified to conduct this mission. Zero chance. This mission was analyzed by many qualified people before even getting approval to take off. These people did this with an in depth understanding of military and civilian flight regulations, that specific aircraft, recent maintenance done it, the two pilots, etc.


    All of this work is done for every single flight because there will be a crash, and the military is showing it wasn’t because of a lack of training or anything.
    Oh good for a moment there I thought maybe pilots in the military were fallible. Good to know mistakes are never made and that people don't slip through the cracks. I mean certainly that's never happened before in the history of military aviation.
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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Oh good for a moment there I thought maybe pilots in the military were fallible. Good to know mistakes are never made and that people don't slip through the cracks. I mean certainly that's never happened before in the history of military aviation.
    Spoken like a true incel.
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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Oh good for a moment there I thought maybe pilots in the military were fallible. Good to know mistakes are never made and that people don't slip through the cracks. I mean certainly that's never happened before in the history of military aviation.
    I clearly made a post stating how extremely experienced pilots make mistakes. We are all humans.

    You think you are dropping knowledge?


    That post I made was to refute the fact people are suggesting they were “pushed through” or not actually qualified simply because they have never personally interacted with a female before.
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    So you've never flown before huh? Ok for your first flight we're gonna fly over this residential neighborhood, you know just to keep you on your toes.

    sad though rip

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    Originally Posted by Antoine99 View Post
    So you've never flown before huh? Ok for your first flight we're gonna fly over this residential neighborhood, you know just to keep you on your toes.

    sad though rip

    It wasn't her first flight.

    I don't think they start in Texans.

    I would imagine they start in some 152 Aerobat variant.
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    Originally Posted by jonmcd46 View Post
    neither were airforce you retard, read the article
    two less female pilots, our armed forces are stronger now. Like it makes a giant difference phaggot

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    Considering I was in the Army I will say what I like.
    That's fair play tbh

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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    It wasn't her first flight.

    I don't think they start in Texans.

    I would imagine they start in some 152 Aerobat variant.
    I am admittedly ignorant about the navy flight training program, but I agree that she probably had a few hours under her belt. However, when I went to flight school, we did fly over residential areas. That doesn’t make the risk any higher.

    Operational pilots fly with instructor pilots all the time. She could have been a fully qualified pilot in command, with thousands of hours. The only reason I would say that isn’t the case is because she was in a trainer and not an operational aircraft. Maybe she was training to be an instructor pilot?
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