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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Obviously I do not, as we both know the DoD doesn't release the data for who is assigned what positions based on diversity hires. But we both know they do.

    For example allowing female into combat arms assignments/units. Allowing females into Special Operations combat units. etc etc.

    Get fukked for being a liberal mindless midget.
    I have not discussed any political ideology what so ever.

    How long have women been in military aviation? Compared to the combat arms inclusion you mentioned, how recent has forced diversity taken place in aviation? Do you think it was so recent that they push females through who do not meet the minimum standards? Do you think there are only a few women in aviation?
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    Originally Posted by suave2000 View Post
    He's an actual retired military pilot with hundreds or even thousands of flight hours, you're just an incel. I'm willing to bet the knows a lot more about the subject at hand that you
    GTFO llama cuck, you have 0 flight hours so your opinion is equally as useless as the people you're calling out.
    Originally Posted by gamehendge View Post
    What are the background qualifications needed to become a flight instructer? I'm also wondering is it specific to a type of a plane or would they be able to instruct on any plane whether its prop or jet?
    Its competitive in the navy community. You serve one sea tour flying a jet or helo, then you get a shore tour which could range from recruiter to sitting on a watchfloor to instructor pilot. No one wants to stop flying, and only the best get instructor, its not as political because if the pilot sucks you can get people killed easily. The instructor was deemed the best among her peers at some point, and you can bet every part of her naval aviation career is going to be reviewed to see if there was a **** up in training or if she was really not qualified. There were other crashes this year, but this is the only one I saw on the misc, its pathetic. Two people who dedicated their lives to their nation die, and you lol because they're women.

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    At least thats two less USAF female pilots.

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    Originally Posted by dannyg1217 View Post
    At least thats two less USAF female pilots.
    neither were airforce you retard, read the article

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    This thread is the perfect example of why it makes little sense to provide the misc with facts or responses based on relevant experience...

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    this is a tragedy. these were two young human beings who had their whole lives ahead of them. RIP.

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    How is it that you feel ok name calling 2 young people that just died in a crash?
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysFocus View Post
    diversity and inclusion protocols would like to have a word with you, bigot
    they all go through the same test bro. women have the same academic standards as men to get into flight school
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    As a member of military aviation I completely disagree with this.

    Do you have a link or citation for this completely made up bullchit you are passing along as fact?
    Do you follow Emily Joy Hills (gunbunnyactual)?

    Her story of trying out for the 160th is pretty funny. Sounds like they damn near let her drown during the swim test they were so disgusted with her showing up not being a good swimmer. She did not pass selection.

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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    One flight of exclusively females. All the other aircraft crashes happened with men. But it’s because they were women....

    Get ****ed idiot.
    Allow me to play the Jordan Peterson argument. He basically says that men and women are innately better at different professions. The skills that both sexes bring are better suited to different vocations.

    A quick example being that women make better nurses because they are better communicators and more empthatic.

    Men make better engineers because they are better at becoming singularly focused on specific tasks. The flip side being that women are better at multi-tasking.

    I agree that the general misc sentiment of 'hurr durr women suck' is moronic. But there is a strong argument to be made that women should not be piloting fighter jets.

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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Do you follow Emily Joy Hills (gunbunnyactual)?

    Her story of trying out for the 160th is pretty funny. Sounds like they damn near let her drown during the swim test they were so disgusted with her showing up not being a good swimmer. She did not pass selection.
    There were these two sloots who got through the initial Ranger School after a bunch of special treatment and lower standards.



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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Do you follow Emily Joy Hills (gunbunnyactual)?

    Her story of trying out for the 160th is pretty funny. Sounds like they damn near let her drown during the swim test they were so disgusted with her showing up not being a good swimmer. She did not pass selection.
    Lol, I will have to look her up. All Army pilots have to pass a overwater survival course (every four years when I was in). Generally involved a swim test of some distance, floating for a while and some other tasks (full gear), along with escaping an aircraft that has gone under and flipped upside down. I think surviving the cut did an episode on green platoon (enlisted aircrew member selection) and they show their advanced overwater training facility complete with waves and storm simulation.

    I’ll check that chick out.

    Here is a short video about their HOST training.

    The one at flight school is exactly like this but they don’t turn the lights off (we wore blackout googles), and they don’t have a wave machine.




    Originally Posted by Mogambo View Post
    Allow me to play the Jordan Peterson argument. He basically says that men and women are innately better at different professions. The skills that both sexes bring are better suited to different vocations.

    A quick example being that women make better nurses because they are better communicators and more empthatic.

    Men make better engineers because they are better at becoming singularly focused on specific tasks. The flip side being that women are better at multi-tasking.



    I agree that the general misc sentiment of 'hurr durr women suck' is moronic. But there is a strong argument to be made that women should not be piloting fighter jets.
    So in general flying is nothing more than multitasking, being completely saturated with multiple tasks mentally. In addition to what you said, this is actually an argument to suggest women are better pilots than men.
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    Originally Posted by TomJones90 View Post
    Anyone in the Airforce? Are women and men held to the same standards? Or do they get selected on lower standards?
    i used to live in pensacola florida where the air force and navy flight school are. My neighbor was a flight instructor there and i used to pick his brain about the school. from what he told me, men and women have the same academic standards, they take the same tests and they fly the same air craft. the only differences are the physical standards, but they arent as rigorous as compared to ranger school. i have a buddy that i used to work with that was medically dropped from flight school. he also told me they all go through the same thing. women have it harder because they have to prove themselves to their male peers. if anything, women have it worse, especially in SERE school
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    women have it worse, especially in SERE school
    100% fact (personal anecdote)
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    I don't trust the ugliness of that student woman

    women that ugly usually don't got their mind right too

    Probably did something autistic

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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    I don't trust the ugliness of that student woman

    women that ugly usually don't got their mind right too

    Probably did something autistic

    this ironmanlet guy is such an insufferable cuck too
    I’m under the impression the ugly chick was the instructor.
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    Originally Posted by Exiled93 View Post
    Didn't realize how anti military the misc was these days.
    Lmao no one here is anti military. Also just because the standards are the same on PAPER doesn't mean they are the same in practice. So many fukkin scandals involving woman getting favoritism in the military because they are throwing their pussy around it isn't funny.

    For all I know it was a mechanical malfunction. But my point stands, I believe allowing people into slots just because they have a pussy or brown skin weakens us. And more and more the military is becoming more political.
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    This thread is so fuvking cringe. This is literally why people call you an incel. if you can't see whats wrong and cringe with your jargon and semantics you're the problem.

    Originally Posted by theluckylad View Post
    What's with the disrespectful title and comments? Two young people who were willing to serve their nation have died, save those comments for instagram models/blm protestors, people who wouldn't dream of serving their country..
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    The above post is 100% false
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    100% fact (personal anecdote)
    this. these phaggots have literally never served and seen sh*t. a girl in ranger or rasp gets DESTROYED. they literally have all eyes on them by the gatekeepers who when they are on lunch smoking together are finding ways to destroy them.



    there are instances when women have it easier in the military but selection courses are not one of them, lmao.
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    Originally Posted by Mogambo View Post
    Allow me to play the Jordan Peterson argument. He basically says that men and women are innately better at different professions. The skills that both sexes bring are better suited to different vocations.

    A quick example being that women make better nurses because they are better communicators and more empthatic.

    Men make better engineers because they are better at becoming singularly focused on specific tasks. The flip side being that women are better at multi-tasking.

    I agree that the general misc sentiment of 'hurr durr women suck' is moronic. But there is a strong argument to be made that women should not be piloting fighter jets.
    a t-6 is not a fuking fighter jet. the student was a coastie, what jets do the coast guards fly? flying a plane isn't hard in its own, its when you add in the comms, the mission, the checklists, the EPs and other outside stressors that make it hard, aka multitasking. Stop using deaths of others to justify your political standards or how you feel about males vs females.

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    They probably died trying to maneuver the aircraft away from homes/civilians, rather than pretty much guaranteeing their own lives by ejecting, and arm seat ace miscers are using this to push political opinions. Really fukin low
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    Originally Posted by USAPump View Post
    this. these phaggots have literally never served and seen sh*t. a girl in ranger or rasp gets DESTROYED. they literally have all eyes on them by the gatekeepers who when they are on lunch smoking together are finding ways to destroy them.



    there are instances when women have it easier in the military but selection courses are not one of them, lmao.
    That might be true FOR NOW after they get pushed in by brass trying to get a good OER in. But what happens when old heads leave and are slowly replaced by a changing demographic of Soldier raised on the SJW bs? And the top is still trying to push woman in for clout and muh inclusion politics.

    I can't begin to tell you how much the Military has changed over just the last 10 years. SJW and muh feelz galore. Mainly in garrison. But you're a fool if you don't think it will work it's way into selection and SF.

    Youre a God damn liar or ignorant if you say it hasn't been changing. And it's been a consistent INTENTIONAL push.
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    Originally Posted by Adam16121 View Post
    They probably died trying to maneuver the aircraft away from homes/civilians, rather than pretty much guaranteeing their own lives by ejecting, and arm seat miscers are using this to push political opinions. Really fukin low
    Maybe. Or maybe some other factor prevented it. Like pilot error or mechanical. Maybe the political opinions if true would have prevented them from being pilots and prevented them from dying. Or ensured they were qualified fully instead of skating through.

    I don't really know. No one does. It might be true they were fully qualified top tier pilots and it was all mechanical, and they knowingly sacrificed themselves to prevent civilian deaths.

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    Originally Posted by PepperedAngus View Post
    Why they having student drivers flying jets over residential areas???

    RIP to the pilots but seems dumb to not have a flight path well away from residences during training especially.
    This. Imagine if they crashed into a house and killed a family with 3 kids or some ****

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    Originally Posted by Underwrought View Post
    Lmao no one here is anti military. Also just because the standards are the same on PAPER doesn't mean they are the same in practice. So many fukkin scandals involving woman getting favoritism in the military because they are throwing their pussy around it isn't funny.

    For all I know it was a mechanical malfunction. But my point stands, I believe allowing people into slots just because they have a pussy or brown skin weakens us. And more and more the military is becoming more political.
    Laughing at military members dying is anti military in my opinion.

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