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    Why do people say suicide is cowardly?

    The argument seems to always devolve into an unrelated "but think of the family and friends they left behind"

    But how is suicide itself cowardly?

    The innate will of self-preservation is one of the strongest things there is

    When a person suicides they override that knowing there's no coming back
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    u wot m8
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    agreed
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    There are bums living underneath the freeway who are never going to have a normal life. They pull through everyday.

    You're a little pussy if you kill yourself when you have a family, friends, a job, a roof over your head, etc.

    But muh depression
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    There are bums living underneath the freeway who are never going to have a normal life. They pull through everyday.

    You're a little pussy if you kill yourself when you have a family, friends, a job, a roof over your head, etc.

    But muh depression
    but who was severe mental illness which makes those things feel irrelevant
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    Originally Posted by Skeptical_Hippo View Post
    There are bums living underneath the freeway who are never going to have a normal life. They pull through everyday.

    You're a little pussy if you kill yourself when you have a family, friends, a job, a roof over your head, etc.

    But muh depression
    you're quite skeptical.
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    it takes a lot of courage to pull the trigger.

    however, running away from your problems IS cowardly.
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    Legalise euthanasia.

    Forcing people to live is as worse as forcing people to die, if not more worse.
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    usually comes from ppl who have faced no real hardships in life
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    I never understood that idea that it's cowardly. Eating a shotgun and spraying your brains everywhere with no idea of what comes next is pretty ballsy.
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    Bro to address your first "leaving family behind" thing, I have no issue if someone commits suicide and has no substantial responsibilities and life is tough, rough chit happens, I don't have much of an issue if you're leaving behind brothers, friends, etc., they'll deal with it.

    My issue is I know a couple of guys that were in their late 30's/mid 40's and both left behind young kids and a wife to struggle through life.

    One was a bar owner that was getting his liquor license revoked and drowning in debt. He did it to himself though, he was constantly Mr. Party and buying people drinks, didn't treat some fairly loyal employees that well, and was too arrogant to come hat in hand when dealing with the legal issues to the court. Basically said fuk the police and city hall for messing with my business, I'll keep doing things the way I want to.

    He killed himself, left behind a young daughter and son, a wife that put her future into him and was nothing but supportive from what I saw, and left their lives in complete shambles.

    That is cowardly. Not facing up to the issues with his business, not growing up and realizing he needed to turn things around, and instead taking the cowardly and easy way out and putting his family in an absolutely devastated situation.
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    It’s easy to criticize them. But I can’t even imagine what it’s like to feel so helpless or to be in such a bad place mentally that killing myself seems like the best course of action

    Unimaginable to me
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    I thought about it a long time ago, but did I actually do it?

    No, I manned up and dealt with my problems because I'm not a p***y
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    Because death is a gift you have to earn and theyre stealing it like cowards
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    usually comes from ppl who have faced no real hardships in life
    Many chinese factories have "suicide nets" to stop their slaves from committing sudoku. The hope is that they get back to work so that the factory owner's son can buy a new Bugatti every year in Vancouver.
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    If I could resurrect my father who committed suicide, I'd do it just to put him back inside a 6' hole.

    **** suicide and **** the cowards that leave people who loved and needed them behind.
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    Life is full of aches pains, too hot, too cold, too sad, too depressed, too low energy, to angry, too bored.

    You’re not brave enough to have the endurance to go on living therefore you’re a coward, too scared of stress and fatigue

    It’s not brave to give up
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    Originally Posted by lllEZRAlll View Post
    If I could resurrect my father who committed suicide, I'd do it just to put him back inside a 6' hole.

    **** suicide and **** the cowards that leave people who loved and needed them behind.
    There's no such thing as free will. You would have made the exact same decision in his shoes.
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    It’s easy to criticize them. But I can’t even imagine what it’s like to feel so helpless or to be in such a bad place mentally that killing myself seems like the best course of action

    Unimaginable to me
    They asked all the survivors who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge what they felt when their hands left that rail and almost all of them said there was immediate regret. Now that could very well be because it’s scary as fuk but maybe facing certain death is the thing that made them finally feel alive. Idk.

    But one of them had a good quote and said “It’s not about wanting to die. It’s about just wanting the pain to go away.” A lot of these people feel as if they’ve tried everything and none of it works. Their only peace is the assurance that non-existence > existence. Because existence itself guarantees suffering on some level. And nonexistence guarantees the absence of suffering.
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    There's no such thing as free will. You would have made the exact same decision in his shoes.
    You know nothing
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    i would say it's the bravest thing you can do

    although selfish



    people that say it's cowardly are usually dumb bishes who's biggest problem they ever faced was not getting 100 likes on a selfie they once took
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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    But one of them had a good quote and said “It’s not about wanting to die. It’s about just wanting the pain to go away.”
    That's how I see it. People in so much pain it overrides the strongest human instinct to survive. brb bUt tHiNk aBoUt oThErS wHo wOuLd bE sAd!
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    i would say it's the bravest thing you can do

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    people that say it's cowardly are usually dumb bishes who's biggest problem they ever faced was not getting 100 likes on a selfie they once took
    Yeah because conquering your demons is more cowardly than throwing away your own life, you are a fool
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    There's no such thing as free will. You would have made the exact same decision in his shoes.
    I disagree, I get the studies, and the philosophy behind it, but there are anomalies and randomness in science, people change their presepctive all the day with the choices they have, we all have 2 (at least) choices to every decision, and while they are filtered through the subconscious, maybe we take a left instead of a right, so next decisions we take another left, so on and so on, we've essential created a new pathway to thinking, which imo is freewill.
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    Originally Posted by lllEZRAlll View Post
    Yeah because conquering your demons is more cowardly than throwing away your own life, you are a fool

    literally murdering yourself is going to take a lot more courage than anything else imo

    especially 'conquering your demons' whatever that is
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    It's kind of difficult to carry that out. Unless you are just one of those spontaneous types that can do things without thinking about it, it's not easy. The fear of death and the instinct to survive is a strong one to overcome. As far as selfish, a lot of people see themselves as burdens to others and feel they are doing them a favor. Like that guy that blew his brains out on live people were calling and he was like "yeah yall care now".

    I'll be honest, if it weren't for my Sara (my dog) I probably wouldn't be here. We have that special bond, but she's old and showing signs of getting close to the end. I hope I can get another year or two out of her because I can't handle losing her. Anyways, too much sadness and loss.
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    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    That's how I see it. People in so much pain it overrides the strongest human instinct to survive. brb bUt tHiNk aBoUt oThErS wHo wOuLd bE sAd!
    It's a shame, I could fix them.
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    Suicide can be cowardly in some situations, but people who group all suicides as "the coward's way out" typically don't understand depression. The physical function of your brain can reach a state such that (1) you feel miserable and want to die all the time, and (2) nothing that you change or accomplish in your life can alter that feeling. Look at people like David Foster Wallace or Kurt Cobain, who were successful, revered, rich, had stable family lives, and still just wanted to die.

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    There's no such thing as free will. You would have made the exact same decision in his shoes.
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