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    focus on low reps, so of course their muscles arent fatigued and they can lift heavier.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    Being weak is cope.

    The older you get the more important strength is and aesthetics don't mean ****.

    Nice thread though.

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    Originally Posted by FrankGrimes29 View Post
    Exactly. When my deadlift was pretty big (relative to myself being natty of course) I was so weak in general. I just had a good deadlift for me. Everything revolved around that.

    When I focused on db rowing I got much stronger and much more out of it.
    deadlifting strength isn’t true strength. it’s CNS and body proportions/technique

    there’s a reason why you’ll see twinks pulling 700-800lb+. Take any guy and put them on a good deadlift program, perfect technique and they’ll add 100lbs within a few months
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    Originally Posted by JamesA1990 View Post
    Like how he checked my log?

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    Keep searching threads i posted. If you have 3 hours to only put your bench press shirt,viewing all my threads should be a childs play.

    And lmao at posting old pics of me and my old stats. I post here monthly Picture under almost no light and still mog you physique wise and strength raw.

    Funny how rustled you are. This is why i chopped my Picture to rustle *******s like you.

    Now go put your powerlifting toys or else you risk the gym closing before you even do Two reps.
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    Originally Posted by kinzu1996 View Post
    This Guy gets it. In real world. Lets say a rock is on top of you. The Guy Who did the full roms bench will have more chances to move it. On spread. So much low iq on the misc
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    brute strength >>>> technical strength
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    Powerlifting is a sport with rules and I can respect those that do the best at it. It's not a "strength" competition per se, it's a "who can lift the most weight with these given rules".

    Compare pitchers in baseball. They are often skinny lenky guys who are not that strong, but have masterrd the art of mechanics to throw a ball 100mph with precision within a set of pitching rules.
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    Originally Posted by kinzu1996 View Post
    This Guy gets it. In real world. Lets say a rock is on top of you. The Guy Who did the full roms bench will have more chances to move it. On spread. So much low iq on the misc
    If the competition is to lift rocks then people will begin to specialize and master the art of picking up rocks surpassing the really "strong" guy who does full ROM on exersizes. You can then switch it up again and say but can he throw a big heavy stone farther than anybody else and again you can keep changing how to measure strength.

    Training is training and I can agree full ROM is better for overall gains but competition is competition. You don't give the winning medal to who trains the best.
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    Deadlifted 4 plates 3 years ago, tore my back deadlifting 135 cold about a month ago trying to get back into it. That feel when you're a weak bish and have to nurse an injury before you can get back to it.
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    Originally Posted by lllEZRAlll View Post
    Couldn't disagree more. I guess it's just how my brain is hardwired. Nothing takes priority over power. I'm not talking about showing up to a multi ply meet with a 1" rom. I'm talking about locking myself deep inside a dungeon somewhere noone knows, slapping on as many plates as humanly possible without tearing my limbs off. It ain't about "powerlifting"

    It's about my safe space to lose my ****ing mind
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    Originally Posted by Ashton117 View Post
    Olympic weightlifting > Powerlifting

    It requires strength and athleticism
    If you can pick up 405+ pounds and jerk it over your head then you're strong. Period.
    No one doubts that unlike in powerlifting

    One reason Olympic weightlifting isn't more popular is the extensive drug testing.
    You can't just blast and cruise in Olympic Weightlifting and get away with it.
    Larry Wheels couldn't compete along with many others.

    If steroids and peds didn't exist Olympic weightlifting would be more popular
    I encourage people to try it because it is a lot of fun

    I have a hard time believing Olympians are natty, but I do agree that Olympic lifts are more impressive than the big 3 powerlifting lifts.


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    Originally Posted by LooksMaximus View Post
    Let's be real. Generally speaking...

    Powerlifting is for endos that either have no chance of ever seeing their abs or they have to literally starve themselves in order to see two of their abs, so they cope by lifting as heavy as possible.

    Aesthetics is for twinks.

    The best of both worlds is for mesos.



    Why is strength more important as you age, especially in the urban 21st century where you can sit on your ass all day making misc vids, drinking beer and ordering food?

    If we're talking about mogging, then real fighting ability and experience is the most important. Sure, being a bloatlord can give you some level of feigned confidence, but nothing else gives a man real confidence like stepping into the ring/octagon and sparring heavy/engaging in combat time and time again for several years.
    Not sure where confidence came into the picture. But actual war makes young, weak men confident, even when it’s with guns. There’s nothing in this world like someone trying to kill you and your friends, and you walk out alive and the other guys don’t.

    WRT the OP, leverages have a lot to do with certain lifts. Short femurs/long torso, you will have an upright posture with squats and great ability for oly lifts. Long femurs/short torso, you’ll squat like Layne Norton and cannot get into the bottom position of a clean without leaning forward.

    Why does anyone have to hate on others for doing what they’re good at/what they want to do? If someone sucks at making music, are you gonna say, “LOL music is cope!!!!1”
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    I mean it definitely is. It's something that no one cares about. Do you think your friends, family, co-workers, women etc really care how much you can deadlift and squat? It's about looking like you lift. You could be jacked and tell them that you bench 500 pounds even if you don't and they wouldn't know the difference or care

    It's a good excuse to overeat tho
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    Cringe
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    I mean it definitely is. It's something that no one cares about. Do you think your friends, family, co-workers, women etc really care how much you can deadlift and squat? It's about looking like you lift. You could be jacked and tell them that you bench 500 pounds even if you don't and they wouldn't know the difference or care

    It's a good excuse to overeat tho
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    people jump through so many hoops of cope just to avoid squat and deadlift lol
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    Originally Posted by kinzu1996 View Post
    Absolutely nothing to do with strength, it's all about arches, making the rom as short as possible for each lift.

    It's a major cope for True strength. Someone Who bench 3 plates and has 3 inch room is probably weaker than someone Who does 2 plates full rom.

    And on top of that you get chit physique because of these roms
    Go try do half of what Taylor Atwood does at 15kgs lower bodyweight.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    Because naturally we all get weaker, so one maintains strength one will likely love a longer and more productive/happy life.

    No one really needs a lot of strength when they are young, but trust me you sure as hell do as you age.

    Maintaining a low bodyweight and fat % is much more important for longevity and health than being able to pull a huge amount of weight

    Why do you need more strength as you age? Beyond a two plate deadlift and a bodyweight bench press level of strength I can't see any benefit to being much stronger as a middle aged man, especially if that comes at the cost of destroying your health through being overweight and the wear and tear that comes through lifting heavy.

    Its all about ego, young or old.
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    I mean it definitely is. It's something that no one cares about. Do you think your friends, family, co-workers, women etc really care how much you can deadlift and squat? It's about looking like you lift. You could be jacked and tell them that you bench 500 pounds even if you don't and they wouldn't know the difference or care

    It's a good excuse to overeat tho
    This is on the money.

    Having a big bench or dead only impresses your fellow obese blow bros in the gym. And your witchcraft conman chiropractor.
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    Originally Posted by RW2 View Post
    Living your life caring about what others think is so alpha. Lmao
    I mean, it's a bodybuilding website, we all care what others think to a degree or we wouldn't lift weights dumb dumb
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    Originally Posted by Slayermanlet View Post
    Maintaining a low bodyweight and fat % is much more important for longevity and health than being able to pull a huge amount of weight

    Why do you need more strength as you age? Beyond a two plate deadlift and a bodyweight bench press level of strength I can't see any benefit to being much stronger as a middle aged man, especially if that comes at the cost of destroying your health through being overweight and the wear and tear that comes through lifting heavy.

    Its all about ego, young or old.
    I think the ego thing is true for everyone to some extent even if they don't admit it. If you can squat 1.5 plates, bench 1 plate and deadlift (conventional) 2 plates then you already have all the strength you need for 'general health'. I went well beyond those thresholds (for bench anyway) because I enjoy lifting and wanted to put on more upper body muscle. But I'm under no illusion that bloat maxing (or roid maxing to avoid the fat gain) in order to lift ridiculously heavy is beneficial for health.
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