Lets be honest, powerlifting is major cope

[kinzu1996]

Absolutely nothing to do with strength, it's all about arches, making the rom as short as possible for each lift.

It's a major cope for True strength. Someone Who bench 3 plates and has 3 inch room is probably weaker than someone Who does 2 plates full rom.

And on top of that you get chit physique because of these roms

[envisu]

calling out jamesa1990

[Unstumpable]

[Jestbrah]

powerlifting is more of a cope for not having good muscle insertions or being lazy with dieting and wanting to eat what you want.

Source: top level elite pros I know

[leoric1997]

just lol

[kinzu1996]

Fking lol.

These People dont even use chest anymore. Its only triceps. Triceps press ??

[FrankGrimes29]

Kind of agree. I trained like a powerlifter from age 24-26/27. I got better at the big 3, and I built decent muscle, but holy fuk is it boring. If I didn't have decent general strength genetics or overall genetics, it would be a waste of time.

My training is much more strongman like and just going hard at what I want to lift. Always working on my weakpoints. I am way stronger overall now. Just general strength.

Powerlifting is not my thing. You basically get really good at 3 lifts, and fukking blow at anything else.

[ErnieMccracken]

I play real sports. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising.

[kinzu1996]

Kind of agree. I trained like a powerlifter from age 24-26/27. I got better at the big 3, and I built decent muscle, but holy fuk is it boring. If I didn't have decent general strength genetics or overall genetics, it would be a waste of time.

My training is much more strongman like and just going hard at what I want to lift. Always working on my weakpoints. I am way stronger overall now. Just general strength.

Powerlifting is not my thing. You basically get really good at 3 lifts, and fukking blow at anything else.

You getting good at these lift doesnt mean that you got stronger, it means only that you got your roms better. As i said you can bench 405 but with 2 inch rom which will use only triceps, your chest will get none hypertrophy.

Full rom is the way to go if you want to be strong and look good

[FrankGrimes29]

You getting good at these lift doesnt mean that you got stronger, it means only that you got your roms better. As i said you can bench 405 but with 2 inch rom which will use only triceps, your chest will get none hypertrophy.

Full rom is the way to go if you want to be strong and look good

I agree but not completely. The one thing powerlifting taught me was how to do these three lifts correctly. Especially bench. I used to do full rom bench and my shoulders were always fukked hard. Now I have a slight arch, use leg drive, and zero shoulder pain ever. Can't remember the last time I did. Still made huge chest gains.

I just think flat bench isn't necessary for growing a large chest though. It is more so for strength and showing off.

[rgnx]

Absolutely nothing to do with strength, it's all about arches, making the rom as short as possible for each lift.

It's a major cope for True strength. Someone Who bench 3 plates and has 3 inch room is probably weaker than someone Who does 2 plates full rom.

And on top of that you get chit physique because of these roms

you come to a lot of silly conclusions. i would take it easy there, before you start believing the nonsense you spout srs

[SpeakethTruth]

Body structure has an impact as well. I've seen side-by-side comparisons of a bencher with a huge arch and a bencher with a fairly small arch. Their upper arms were both at parallel at the end of the eccentric so in that case it's pretty obvious that their pecs got the same amount of work at the bottom of the ROM which is the important part of the ROM on bench.

Irrespective of arch, whether a barbell bench is good for hypertrophy is more or less dependent on whether the upper arms break parallel.

[kinzu1996]

you come to a lot of silly conclusions. i would take it easy there, before you start believing the nonsense you spout srs

Tell me how is chest used when you have only 3 inch rom ? When your elbow dont even reach 90 angle. Your using 80% triceps and 20 the chest for the slight push at the beginning.

Now tell me where i am wrong

[rgnx]

Tell me how is chest used when you have only 3 inch rom ? When your elbow dont even dont even reach 90 angle. Your using 80% triceps and 20 the chest for the slight push at the beginning.

Now tell me where i am wrong

Tell me how power lifting is supposed to be about using your chest (alone). It's not. You're ignorant so not sure why you even bother

[DrumsNotDead]

People will always find a way to push the boundaries based on the current rules and what's allowed and what's not. This is true of everything and powerlifting is no different.

[JamesA1990]

Absolutely nothing to do with strength, it's all about arches, making the rom as short as possible for each lift.

It's a major cope for True strength. Someone Who bench 3 plates and has 3 inch room is probably weaker than someone Who does 2 plates full rom.

And on top of that you get chit physique because of these roms

calling out jamesa1990

rude

[MaesterSeymour]

[JamesA1990]

I bet you have a 2plate full rom bench

[Icepops81]

Absolutely nothing to do with strength, it's all about arches, making the rom as short as possible for each lift.

It's a major cope for True strength. Someone Who bench 3 plates and has 3 inch room is probably weaker than someone Who does 2 plates full rom.

And on top of that you get chit physique because of these roms

You are one of the most uninformed/idiotic posters on the Misc. We are all dumber after reading your word vomit.

[kinzu1996]

Tell me how power lifting is supposed to be about using your chest (alone). It's not. You're ignorant so not sure why you even bother

Thats why i am telling for pure strength, your lifts on powerlifting rules doesnt represent the True strength of your chest. That was the whole point of the thread.

2 plates bench full rom is a better representantion of your real chest strength than 3 plates with 1/4 rom. I dont give a chit if you lift more.

[ppscalzo]

Strong logic

Why lift when its all about the ROM?

[CopeFear]

JFL @ "powerlifters" srs

[justgenetics]

Just lol if u don’t get arm lengthening surgery to increase bench rom for optimal functional strength

[kinzu1996]

Agree about competitive powerlifting.

There isn't a real way to test who is strongest tho so i guess it is what it is. To clarify that statement - 5'0 120lb Stefi Choden who can squat 500lbs and deadlift 530lbs isn't "stronger" IRL than a 6'2 240 man who can squat 450 and deadlift 500. Not even close but ****gy tyme leverages etc.

That said there's nothing cope about turning up to a gym month after month and arriving at a solid strength base and maintaining that for health purposes.

This Guy gets it. In real world. Lets say a rock is on top of you. The Guy Who did the full roms bench will have more chances to move it. On spread. So much low iq on the misc

[ppscalzo]

Agree about competitive powerlifting.

There isn't a real way to test who is strongest tho so i guess it is what it is. To clarify that statement - 5'0 120lb Stefi Choden who can squat 500lbs and deadlift 530lbs isn't "stronger" IRL than a 6'2 240 man who can squat 450 and deadlift 500. Not even close but ****gy tyme leverages etc.

That said there's nothing cope about turning up to a gym month after month and arriving at a solid strength base and maintaining that for health purposes.

I think you cant take powerlifting too seriously. Personally i like to train and compete once in a while but the competitive scene can be a chit show.

That said there is nothing wrong with the training. Having some measurable metric to set goals and track progress with are usefull tools at the gym and should be encouraged.

But ya lol @ back-breaking bench arch

[lllEZRAlll]

Couldn't disagree more. I guess it's just how my brain is hardwired. Nothing takes priority over power. I'm not talking about showing up to a multi ply meet with a 1" rom. I'm talking about locking myself deep inside a dungeon somewhere noone knows, slapping on as many plates as humanly possible without tearing my limbs off. It ain't about "powerlifting"

It's about my safe space to lose my ****ing mind

[Jestbrah]

Couldn't disagree more. I guess it's just how my brain is hardwired. Nothing takes priority over power. I'm not talking about showing up to a multi ply meet with a 1" rom. I'm talking about locking myself deep inside a dungeon somewhere noone knows, slapping on as many plates as humanly possible without tearing my limbs off. It ain't about "powerlifting"

It's about my safe space to lose my ****ing mind

bodybuilding is the real test of that. Doing 3 reps then taking 5 minutes to eat some gummy worms isnt "hardcore"

Try doing a cluster set of 5x5 with 20 second rest with 5 plate deads then going to 14pps leg press for deep controlled presses for 20 reps then hammering out some 18 plate hack squats for rest pause sets of 12/6/4 finishing up with 20 steps per leg barbell lunges. All the while without eating any gummy worms or listening to two whole songs to 'get in the zone"

[kinzu1996]

Being weak is cope.

The older you get the more important strength is and aesthetics don't mean ****.

Nice thread though.

I never said strength is not important. I said powerlifting numbers doesnt represent your True strength.

[Jestbrah]

I never said strength is not important. I said powerlifting numbers doesnt represent your True strength.

exactly, as a bodybuilder I lift more on the big three, whcih I never even do, than 99% of powerlifters in my city.

these little ****s will talk **** about me rack pulling which "isnt a real lift" where I actually do them right with my back only, meanwhile they pull 5 plates max and then ill go pull 6 plates for 5 and make them stfu.

I think its funny when powerlifters talk about how hardcore they are but will never touch a 700lb deadlift, meanwhile James Hollingshead is hitting 700 for reps of 8 2 weeks after a bodybuilding show while hes still eating nothing but fish and 200g carbs.

[ppscalzo]

I never said strength is not important. I said powerlifting numbers doesnt represent your True strength.

What does represent true strength? What is a better metric to measure it?