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  • Khabib

    29 20.71%
  • Jon jones

    39 27.86%
  • DC

    1 0.71%
  • Silva

    8 5.71%
  • Fedor

    21 15.00%
  • GSP

    29 20.71%
  • Demetrious Johnson

    5 3.57%
  • Conor Mcgregor

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    Exclamation Who is the greatest MMA fighter of all time?

    I would say khabib is the GOAT
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    who cares, theres a new "GOAT" every 5 years in MMA....
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    khabib if he defends on saturday + 2 more defenses

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    Originally Posted by mk2kh View Post
    I would say khabib is the GOAT

    When Khabib goes 10 years without a loss and fights several top 10 guys in the process and destroys them in dominant fashion, then maybe you can start to compare him to the obvious GOAT.
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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    GSP by a mile.

    Well... GSP doesn’t agree with that. GSP knows who the GOAT is, and has stated so on video, as did almost every other MMA fighter.
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    There is another way to find out who the GOAT is:

    Take a look at such articles, polls, and threads asking who the GOAT is from 5, 10, 15 years ago, and so on. There is only one name that is on every list in every poll. Other names keep changing

    Let’s stop playing dumb. We all know who it is. Just that some of you are lying to yourselves for some reason.
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    Best Natural Fighter: Fedor or DC

    Best over all: Jon Jones

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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    There is another way to find out who the GOAT is:

    Take a look at such articles, polls, and threads asking who the GOAT is from 5, 10, 15 years ago, and so on. There is only one name that is on every list in every poll. Other names keep changing

    Let’s stop playing dumb. We all know who it is. Just that some of you are lying to yourselves for some reason.
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    Originally Posted by latverian41 View Post
    No gracie?

    A close look reveals that Gracie family in general were big cowards, and Royce won because people Gracies agreed to face knew next to nothing about submissions.

    First UFC was basically an infomercial for BJJ Gracie schools business. They carefully avoided anyone who knew both submissions and striking at the same time. The idea was to have Royce choke out a few big guys that didn’t know what RNC or an armbar was, and make money.

    Basically we can’t simply claim that the first caveman to ever pick up sticks and knock them on wood to be the GOAT drummer in history, or the first Neanderthal who happened to pluck a stretched intestine of a dead animal and it made a sound to be the GOAT guitarist or violinist in history.
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    Jones is the GOAT based on fighting the longest at a championship against the best competition. If he wins HW eventually, then it won’t even be close.

    Khabib is very close as well due to his complete dominance. Just hasn’t had the opponents. If he gets past Justin, then a retirement fight with GSP would be an AMAZING way to end a career.

    Peak GOAT, man I don’t think I have ever been more “wowed” by anyone more than Anderson.
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    I think if Khabib can beat Gaethje and perhaps notch another big name like a Ferguson it can certainly be argued

    Iaquinta, Barboza, Johnson aren't cream of the crop


    Conor, RDA and Dustin are pretty solid wins. Khabib hasn't really faced any top tier level wrestlers who uses it. To be fair to Khabib there really aren't many in lightweight. Kevin Lee and Gilespie are probably the best wrestlers in that division but are ranked way too low. I know Tibau was a long time ago and dude was basically the mini prime Vitor on creatine but unfortunately there is nobody really like that in this division.
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    Originally Posted by akmerle View Post
    Jones is the GOAT based on fighting the longest at a championship against the best competition. If he wins HW eventually, then it won’t even be close.

    Khabib is very close as well due to his complete dominance. Just hasn’t had the opponents. If he gets past Justin, then a retirement fight with GSP would be an AMAZING way to end a career.

    Peak GOAT, man I don’t think I have ever been more “wowed” by anyone more than Anderson.
    A caught steroid user with massive reach and size advantage over his opponents fighting in the weakest division can not be considered GOAT.

    Khabib simply doesn’t have the long enough streak yet to be considered.

    Anderson is #2 GOAT, he too enjoyed size and reach advantage in the weakest division at the time. He walks as heavy as 230 lbs! Basically Fedor size, but we all know how Anderson would do at HW, as does Anderson So he stayed in Middleweight for easier wins, and he can’t be blamed, but he also can’t be GOAT that way.
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    those 2 spots are clear
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    Originally Posted by adamsz View Post
    1 JJ
    2 GSP
    those 2 spots are clear
    after that lot more room for debate

    Yeah, I’ve seen posts like this for other fighters for decades on Sherdog and so on, then when a guy looses, and GSP and JJ WILL lose again if they keep fighting, suddenly the mob moves on to newer undefeated fighters and claims them to be GOAT.

    Honestly, Jones lost his last fight, and if he looses a few more, suddenly people will move him down in GOAT rankings. People’s memory is short.
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    jones and its not even close. Became a champion at 23 by totally dominating shogun rua. Made rampage jackson look like an amateur who just started fighting pro fighters
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    A caught steroid user with massive reach and size advantage over his opponents fighting in the weakest division can not be considered GOAT.

    Khabib simply doesn’t have the long enough streak yet to be considered.

    Anderson is #2 GOAT, he too enjoyed size and reach advantage in the weakest division at the time. He walks as heavy as 230 lbs! Basically Fedor size, but we all know how Anderson would do at HW, as does Anderson So he stayed in Middleweight for easier wins, and he can’t be blamed, but he also can’t be GOAT that way.
    Lol, wtf are you talking about? Do you know anything about sports and especially MMA / combat sports?

    Yes, physical attributes and advantages play a big role in sports. Also yes, weight cutting has been a part of combat sports since weight classes were brought in. Game planning ways to maximize advantages, and exploit an opponents disadvantages is all Sports 101.

    Then you eliminate Jones for being popped by USADA, but then you list Silva as your #2 when he also has been popped?

    LHW being weak? So guess his victories over DC, Alex, Shogun, Rampage, Vitor, Machida, Evans, Bader, Glover, Chael, etc are weak? Lol, FOH.

    Anderson cleaned his division out, and then would fight LHW for fun? Where is your size argument? Are you trolling?
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Jones
    GSP
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    imo
    Thanks for deducting reputation from this loser.
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    If HE looks like a SHE, it is acceptable.

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    Originally Posted by akmerle View Post
    Lol, wtf are you talking about? Do you know anything about sports and especially MMA / combat sports?

    Yes, physical attributes and advantages play a big role in sports. Also yes, weight cutting has been a part of combat sports since weight classes were brought in. Game planning ways to maximize advantages, and exploit an opponents disadvantages is all Sports 101.

    Then you eliminate Jones for being popped by USADA, but then you list Silva as your #2 when he also has been popped?

    LHW being weak? So guess his victories over DC, Alex, Shogun, Rampage, Vitor, Machida, Evans, Bader, Glover, Chael, etc are weak? Lol, FOH.

    Anderson cleaned his division out, and then would fight LHW for fun? Where is your size argument? Are you trolling?
    people are fn stupid

    The sole reason for his hypocrisy is Anderson's image. He doesn't do anything else bad outside the cage, hes a nice guys, smiles, doesn't trash talk etc.
    So people forget hes been on drugs for most of his fights. Imho he doesn't even enter into a GOAT conversation because of this.

    Jones has been hot for fewer fights, but then add in the image he has and hes villified.

    If someone like Izzy pissed hot for one fight imagine the hate?
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    Originally Posted by akmerle View Post
    Lol, wtf are you talking about? Do you know anything about sports and especially MMA / combat sports?

    Yes, physical attributes and advantages play a big role in sports. Also yes, weight cutting has been a part of combat sports since weight classes were brought in. Game planning ways to maximize advantages, and exploit an opponents disadvantages is all Sports 101.

    Then you eliminate Jones for being popped by USADA, but then you list Silva as your #2 when he also has been popped?

    LHW being weak? So guess his victories over DC, Alex, Shogun, Rampage, Vitor, Machida, Evans, Bader, Glover, Chael, etc are weak? Lol, FOH.

    Anderson cleaned his division out, and then would fight LHW for fun? Where is your size argument? Are you trolling?
    Do I know anything about combat sports? Yes, I train regularly and seriously at a very good MMA gym with pros. Am I trolling? No. Was into MMA way before UFC 1. Watch a youtube where someone put together all the top MMA fighters answering the question of who is #1 pfp and GOAT etc., About 99% of them said Fedor. What he brought to MMA evolution and how he faced HWs while himself being a natural 205er is worthy of admiration. Someone who doesn’t cut weight deserves extra credit and then some.

    Also, steroids dramatically improve the fighter, just watch Vitor, getting caught one time instantly and permanently disqualifies one from any GOAT discussion.
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    Jones
    GSP/Anderson
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    Honorable mentions Henry Cejudo. & Stylebender is making a case for himself
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    A caught steroid user with massive reach and size advantage over his opponents fighting in the weakest division can not be considered GOAT.

    Khabib simply doesn’t have the long enough streak yet to be considered.

    Anderson is #2 GOAT, he too enjoyed size and reach advantage in the weakest division at the time. He walks as heavy as 230 lbs! Basically Fedor size, but we all know how Anderson would do at HW, as does Anderson So he stayed in Middleweight for easier wins, and he can’t be blamed, but he also can’t be GOAT that way.
    rua, rampage, evans, machida, cormier, gustaffson, trt belfort.

    hes had insane competition. what jones has going against him is his recent sting of lackluster performances and his cheating.
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