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View Poll Results: GOAT?
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12-02-2020, 02:10 PM #91
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12-02-2020, 02:28 PM #92
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12-02-2020, 03:22 PM #93
Dan Henderson
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12-02-2020, 03:27 PM #94
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12-02-2020, 05:43 PM #95
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12-02-2020, 07:03 PM #96
Because people have short memories, are lacking knowledge of history, as well as lacking MMA skills. Neither one of us here can say who the GOAT brain surgeon in history is, because we know dick all about brain surgery. Same in MMA, people who don’t fight know dick squat about who the GOAT MMA fighter is, but they still run their mouth because they watched UFC 5 times. In fact one doesn’t even need MMA skills to answer this question, simply ask those who do, literally every fighter will tell you Fedor is GOAT.
Jones is clearly THE most genetically gifted fighter, and a great fighter, but Fedor was a true Martial Artist, and Jones popped for roids too many times anyway.
I remember threads exactly like this one from a decade ago and people were saying Machida was GOAT, Overeem was GOAT etc. It’s interesting how only one name remains the same in all these threads
In 10 years the exact same thread will be on Sherdog or on here, and there will be all new fighters, especially after Jones gets his sheit kicked in by heavyweights, and Khabib comes back and looses, but Fedor will STILL be in the poll LOL
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12-02-2020, 11:26 PM #97
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12-03-2020, 08:15 AM #98
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12-03-2020, 04:35 PM #99
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12-04-2020, 06:35 AM #100
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Jones, Silva, GSP, Fedor & Mighty Mouse belong in this conversation, without question.
Khabib is a beast and his undefeated record cannot be understated. However, number of successful title defenses has to be a consideration for GOAT talk. It's too bad he retired at 32, while he was at his absolute best; he certainly had the tools to hold the LW belt, for a long time to come.
Conor is a great fighter and an excellent entertainer, but doesn't belong anywhere near this topic.
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12-04-2020, 09:49 AM #101
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12-26-2020, 09:12 AM #102
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12-26-2020, 01:43 PM #103
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12-27-2020, 05:16 PM #104
The fight would probably look like Sean Sherk vs GSP. Khabib doesnt have anything for GSP. Dont forget that GSP went up in weight after years of layoff and destroyed a MW champion who beat Anderson Silva. Meanwhile, you got Khabib got gifted a decision win again Gleison Tibau, staying at lightweight.
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12-27-2020, 06:49 PM #105
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12-30-2020, 01:35 PM #106
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12-31-2020, 11:21 PM #107
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01-01-2021, 09:10 AM #108
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01-01-2021, 09:11 AM #109
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01-01-2021, 08:15 PM #110
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01-02-2021, 02:20 PM #111
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01-02-2021, 02:27 PM #112
Or maybe they are just telling you the correct answer. Why didn’t they name someone else? Why do all these great fighters, like 99% of them name Fedor?
By the way, Fedor does not name someone else. Because he too knows the correct answer. In fact I do not recall anyone asking him such a question, because even the reporters realize that it’s like if they would be asking a President of USA who the President of USA is. They know they are looking at him. No need to ask.
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01-02-2021, 10:51 PM #113
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01-03-2021, 07:55 AM #114
Quality of opposition for weight cutters and in 175 compared to top heavyweights in the world? Your argument is not convincing to me, thou GSP is a fine answer. Thing is thou, Fedor faced a dozen top 10 guys in his weight class, as did GSP, but you can’t compare heavyweights to weight cutters. Fedor faced literal monsters. Imagine GSP fighting someone 40 lbs bigger then him on regular basis.
When your peers say you’re #1, you’re #1. 99% of fighters including GSP say Fedor is best. There is a reason why they say this.Last edited by kusok; 01-03-2021 at 08:07 AM.
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01-03-2021, 09:51 AM #115
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Lol @ people saying "there's no other argument".
I think Fedor is the GOAT, but there's valid arguments for all of the four GOAT candidates. People who want to dismiss accomplishments because of positive PED tests should have their opinion invalidated automatically. Just lol if you think Fedor and GSP were clean.
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01-03-2021, 11:00 AM #116
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01-03-2021, 11:47 AM #117
You make no sense. Fedor was still undefeated after almost a decade of sitting on top of the rankings before Jon Jones even had his first MMA fight.
When Jones fights people his size and goes 27-0 without multiple failed steroid tests, THEN you can start thinking about him being greater than Fedor. You would still be wrong of course since Golden Age of Heavyweight MMA is long gone, today’s heavyweights are a joke compared to GOATS like Big Nog and Crocop, and this age of PRIDE HW division will never return. So Fedor cemented his spot in history as GOAT since he ruled THE flagship division in the greatest era.
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01-03-2021, 12:26 PM #118
Its just simple mma though. Fedor never went 27 and 0, he lost his 5th fight. He has never fought in ufc and also guys like big nog and crocop were met with disaster when they went on a ufc run...
How many times did Jon Jones defend his belt? Literally when Ufc became mainstream.
Pride is very special but to name a fighter who has never fought in the Ufc is just weird.
Also to retire while on top is definitely a hallmark for goat discussions.
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01-03-2021, 12:27 PM #119
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01-03-2021, 12:43 PM #120
Trolls or total noobs LOL
This is a normal thing thou. When AA was on top people legit posted that AA is GOAT. Machida too. Saku. BJ Penn, Matt Hughes, all these guys were voted by noobs as GOATS. Just all depends on when people started watching.
Entire armies of fans thought Tito was GOAT. Frank Shamrock etc. And they would argue with you just like the current Connor or Jones or GSP noobs. In 10 years new fighters will have noob fans who will call them GOATs too, but Fedor will still be in the poll at or near the top, same as he was 20 years ago LOL
Gee golly.. I wonder why there is only one fighter who is always in every such poll while other fighters keep changing. Hmmm... it’s almost as if there is a hint there.
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