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    How would Vick do if he was drafted in 2018

    You have QBs like Murray and Lamar playing The QB position that would be converted to a Wr if they played in Vick’s Era. How would Vick be in 2020 where he wouldn’t be forced to be a pocket QB? Dude has probably the best a talent I’ve ever seen srs.
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    He'd do better then he did that's for sure but his accuracy has always been his issue. Dude threw a pretty ball though.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    You have QBs like Murray and Lamar playing The QB position that would be converted to a Wr if they played in Vick’s Era. How would Vick be in 2020 where he wouldn’t be forced to be a pocket QB? Dude has probably the best a talent I’ve ever seen srs.
    Best talent? Sh*t. I can name a dozen QBs with far more talent than him. He was OK, but nowhere near hall of game level.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    You have QBs like Murray and Lamar playing The QB position that would be converted to a Wr if they played in Vick’s Era. How would Vick be in 2020 where he wouldn’t be forced to be a pocket QB? Dude has probably the best a talent I’ve ever seen srs.
    There were a ton of "mobile quarterbacks" in the 2000s that were heralded for their athletic ability but didn't win shit.
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    Originally Posted by jamalfudge View Post
    There were a ton of "mobile quarterbacks" in the 2000s that were heralded for their athletic ability but didn't win shit.
    There wasn’t any QB that was close to Vick’s speed quickness and agility back in his era
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    He'd do better then he did that's for sure but his accuracy has always been his issue. Dude threw a pretty ball though.
    They tried to make him into a pocket passer instead of letting him play to his strengths. Vick is way more accurate then Lamar/Murray and could actually make every throw. Imagine if he was allowed to run RPOs instead of the stupid west coast offense where he had to pass first oh lawddd
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    Vick had the raw athleticism to be the best QB of all time, no question. Problem was he was a f*cking moron who didn't work hard to perfect his game.

    Most pro athletes still have to work very hard to get to their level even with great talent. Vick is one of the few exceptions you can tell didn't work hard at sh*t but his raw talent was so good he made it all the way pro anyway. Such a waste... smh
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Vick had the raw athleticism to be the best QB of all time, no question. Problem was he was a f*cking moron who didn't work hard to perfect his game.

    Most pro athletes still have to work very hard to get to their level even with great talent. Vick is one of the few exceptions you can tell didn't work hard at sh*t but his raw talent was so good he made it all the way pro anyway. Such a waste... smh
    His brother had an even worse work ethic
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    Originally Posted by jamalfudge View Post
    There were a ton of "mobile quarterbacks" in the 2000s that were heralded for their athletic ability but didn't win shit.
    I think that speaks more to coaches not knowing how to use them properly. I think if you swapped prime Vick with Jackson on the Ravens Vick would be better in nearly every way. He was a fukn monster but they kept trying to turn him into Tom Brady
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    Better than Lamar for sure.

    Vick had the biggest arm I've ever seen.

    Dude was just nonchalantly throwing 50 yard bombs with a flick of the wrist.
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I think that speaks more to coaches not knowing how to use them properly. I think if you swapped prime Vick with Jackson on the Ravens Vick would be better in nearly every way. He was a fukn monster but they kept trying to turn him into Tom Brady
    Negative.

    Vick always had suspect WR's.

    Team was great running but Algae Crumpled was Vick's only real weapon.

    Although I believe towards the end of his tenure he may have had Roddy White.

    If they gave Vick a real offense like choke job Manning it would have been unfair.

    But that of course brings into question how much Vick was earning.

    Maybe would have had better weapons if he wasn't being paid so much.
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    I think he would've been awesome. Coaching has changed a lot since Vick's time as well. They are more willing to change their system to help the qb. Lawd if he was playing during this time he would be in the upper echelon of qbs
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    Look at what he did when he had a competent coach in Andy Reid.


    If he doesn't get hurt like he usually does and was in his prime, he'd be a superior version of Lamar Jackson.
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    madden 04 vick would be the GOAT
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    Hard to say. He'd be given a way better chance to succeed in today's nfl, but the question is would he take advantage of it? He admitted that he really didn't care about film and the mental aspect of the game, so there's a chance he has the same career just with inflated stats since everyone throws for 4k yds in today's nfl.
    Doubt he would go #1 overall in today's nfl, probably would be asked to switch positions like Lamar
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    Originally Posted by jonmcd46 View Post
    Hard to say. He'd be given a way better chance to succeed in today's nfl, but the question is would he take advantage of it? He admitted that he really didn't care about film and the mental aspect of the game, so there's a chance he has the same career just with inflated stats since everyone throws for 4k yds in today's nfl.
    Doubt he would go #1 overall in today's nfl, probably would be asked to switch positions like Lamar
    Vick has 5x the arm talent than Lamar Jackson does.

    They would not ask him to play anything else lol....
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    Negative.

    Vick always had suspect WR's.

    Team was great running but Algae Crumpled was Vick's only real weapon.

    Although I believe towards the end of his tenure he may have had Roddy White.

    If they gave Vick a real offense like choke job Manning it would have been unfair.

    But that of course brings into question how much Vick was earning.

    Maybe would have had better weapons if he wasn't being paid so much.
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    Originally Posted by Slamt View Post
    Vick has 5x the arm talent than Lamar Jackson does.

    They would not ask him to play anything else lol....
    I'm not a Lamar fan, I'd take Vick's talent anyday, but I still stand with my point since it seems like a good QB was a lot more rare in 2001 than it is today, look at Minshew for example. A 6th rd rookie going 6-6 as a starter with a chit team with a chit coach would've been impossible back in 2001
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    Depends on his situation drafted into and the work he put in, but I think he'd be great if he could stay on the field. In Atlanta he basically did no prep/film study but changed that when he went to philly. Forget which year in philly but he was arguably the best player in the league in the games he played, only played 12 games though if I remember correctly (availability was a huge problem of his overall).
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    Originally Posted by Droopdx View Post
    Never use Vick and Manning in the same sentence ever again
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    Best natural ability of all mobile quarterbacks. He was a cheat code in Madden.

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    You could draft Vick in any decade and he would have had success. He is arguably one of the most gifted athletes to ever step on a football field. It's a shame he missed the prime of his career due to being a dumbchit.
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    Growing up in ACC territory (NC), all you heard about from 1998-Dogfighting Year was Mike Vick.

    He would be similar to Cam from 2011-2015 imo except less work ethic: Consensus Top 12 QB with a top 5 QB highlight reel while probably being able to string together a couple of insane statistical seasons. He would probably have better receivers, and with the modern era his stats would be inflated. I think with the influence stars have now when it comes to constructing their own teams, he might squeak out a ring maybe...who knows?

    I think his career would be around 90-95% of what it was in his own era. He wasn't a winner. He was just better than you.



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    I think that speaks more to coaches not knowing how to use them properly. I think if you swapped prime Vick with Jackson on the Ravens Vick would be better in nearly every way. He was a fukn monster but they kept trying to turn him into Tom Brady
    Going to have to agree with this. Also Greg Roman the OC for the ravens his offense led the league in rushing with the bills before he even got Lamar.
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    Going to have to agree with this. Also Greg Roman the OC for the ravens his offense led the league in rushing with the bills before he even got Lamar.
    Also agree with this. Ravens wised up and used Lamar to his strengths. They stopped trying to make him a pocket passer. If Vick had been given the same treatment, I would expect similar results.

    Neither of those guys are gonna sit back and go through 3-4 reads and pick a defense apart. Gotta turn them loose and get the defense on it's heels.
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    Gonna have to cap him the same as Lamar and Kyler.

    The real 2030 QB prototype is Herbert, Tannehill, Josh Allen, Wentz - 6'5, 235, 4.6 40, cannon. Just need to inject a guy like this with poise and accuracy. Lawrence?
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