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Thread: Omg It's Over For Tesla :)
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10-20-2020, 09:44 PM #1
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10-21-2020, 06:06 AM #2
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Doesn't look bad but it's a GM so expect ****ty build quality like batteries that explode, check engine light, tons of rattles (dealer will tell you this is normal for a 90k+ vehicle)
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10-21-2020, 07:37 AM #3
Das a yikes from me fam. Kudos to Tesla for legitimizing EV trucks though. Most guys I know that live in the mountains/haul larger loads still would never touch them, but they'll be great for city folks! We are slowly starting to see that electric works for 95% of applications and I'm sure we will see the technology continue improving to drive down costs. Its funny as a kid in school I always thought about how archaic the gasoline powered engines were. Like 1 step above caveman status powering our cars with mini explosions burning shyt lmao
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10-21-2020, 08:05 AM #4
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10-21-2020, 08:47 AM #5
Tesla is focusing on expansion and bringing down the cost of product to consumers. The Hummer EV will run 80K to 113K.
The Hummer EV looks badass and if performance is as claimed its going to perform well too. But to be perfectly honest I'd be more interested in the Hummer EV just coming in gas or diesel at a more affordable price point.
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10-21-2020, 08:48 AM #6
funny because electric cars arent as revolutionary as you think. electic motors arent new neither are lithium batteries. tesla just refined it and made it popular. the modern gas engine is the most refined and advanced machine on the planet imo, we have engines that have efficiencies almost at the theoretical limit. caveman status lmao.
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10-21-2020, 03:18 PM #7
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10-21-2020, 03:23 PM #8
No they made better batteries and made EV more economical for a greater % of the population.
Gas engines may be close to their theoretical limit in terms of efficiency, but that doesn't really change the narrative when you legitimately think about the fact the engine is harnessing the power from mini explosions from liquefied and refined organic matter that died thousands of years ago.Fitness connoisseur
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10-21-2020, 03:28 PM #9
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10-21-2020, 04:04 PM #10
lol a narrative of pure ignorance that says nothing, so i guess GE's GE9X jet engines are "caveman status" cause they burn fuel too LMAO. nothing on the planet has received more R&D and pure engineering attention than the combustion engine. we have grown as a species along side the gas engine, its development has been ours. in the search for a better engine more than anything else we have perfected tribology, thermodynamics, fluid flow, heat transfer, machine tolerances, metallurgy, reliability analysis, the list goes on. plz go.
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10-21-2020, 11:35 PM #11
I dont think any of these new Electric Cars will put a dent in Tesla at all. If anything it will bring Tesla more customers.
More non EV buyers will slowly start considering EV. Also Tesla's flagship car is basically a 8yr old car that Porsche is just now starting to catch up with and Lucid isnt even going to hit market for another year and still cost 2x as much.
By then Tesla will have come out with something newer or cheaper or faster or all 3.Last edited by waisoserious; 10-22-2020 at 06:10 PM.
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10-22-2020, 06:28 AM #12
True, but we have basically reached a point where there is a law of diminishing returns when it comes to appreciable gains in efficiency or power when it comes to normal consumer transportation.
Do you not agree that consumer EV are in their infancy, and already have cost of ownership / maintenance / power / emissions advantages IC vehicles?
The same R&D money will net much greater results for auto manufacturers by investing in EV. Hell, they don’t even have to be the ones developing the new battery technology, which is where the main range issue with EV lies.
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10-22-2020, 02:29 PM #13
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10-22-2020, 06:09 PM #14
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10-22-2020, 07:25 PM #15
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10-22-2020, 07:27 PM #16
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10-23-2020, 12:50 PM #17
those advantages other than "emissions" are highly debatable. for example power. with evs its a contentious topic. all the ev manufacturer has to do is give the motor a quick burst of extra voltage and peak hp is artificially inflated for marketing purposes. for real usable power the gas motor is still king.
what you prob mean is low end acceleration. which leads me to the only real engineering hurdle left for the gas engine vehicle. a high performance infinite ratio CVT. It would be a game changer for gas cars. would be able to deliver instant max torque like an ev. also would substantially increase efficiency.
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10-23-2020, 02:03 PM #18
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10-23-2020, 06:48 PM #19
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EV's definitely have a power advantage. This hummer EV is going to have 1300hp and it doesn't matter if it's just a short surge of power sent to the motor. The same thing happens on a gasoline engine. It's not always making peak power and doesn't have more useable power.
The only real argument I see against EV's is that they aren't really more environmentally friendly. That power still has to be generated and stored in batteries which are bad for the environment.Mod neg Cry-Baby Crew
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10-23-2020, 07:34 PM #20
you fail to understand the difference between pushing an electric motor past its thermal rating and gas engines having peak hp by their inherent design. lmao that's why they have gears, modern performance cars have 8+ gears and blazing fast trannies, so they can stay very close to max hp, which the motor can handle without overheating.
EV does not have a power advantage, any car company can make a concept car with a 1,300+ hp gas engine, even with crippling epa restrictions. Power is irrelevant, the gas engine is capable of 12,000+ hp out of a little 8 liter v8 lmao an electric motor could never even dream of having that kind of power in that small of a package and that low of weight
until we see the hummers entire power curve, until people dig deeper, until it actually hits the sales floor all your saying is completely irelevant.
I don't see a point arguing with you. you are too ignorant on the subject.
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10-23-2020, 10:45 PM #21
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10-24-2020, 10:16 PM #23
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The Hummer EV does 0-60 in under 3.0 seconds. Most sports cars aren't that fast. Who says the electric motor is being pushed beyond its design? You better have some sources to be making claims like that and a engineering degree.
Saying a gasoline engine is capable of 12k horsepower is extremely intellectually disingenuous. No 12k horsepower engine is going to last years in a daily driven situation not to mention the extreme cost.
I don't know why people try to fight the future and emerging technologies so much. This is happening and most cars will be electric within ten years.
You also went to insults pretty quick. The whole "I'm intellectually superior so I won't argue my talking points with you" is something some Reddit neckbeard would say.Last edited by swoleyo; 10-24-2020 at 10:25 PM.
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10-24-2020, 10:38 PM #24
For your average grocery getter/commuter car, electric engines are way better than gas, srs.
-Instant torque/acceleration at low speeds for stop and go, where most city drivers use it and need it.
-Minimal # of moving parts for maintenance; more miles, less breakages.
-They get gassed up/recharged regularly anyway.
Now if I was hauling logs deep in the middle of Siberia, or long-haul trucking for 800 miles a day, then phuck no I wouldn't an EV. But for most city-cucks (and even country-cucks), they really are a better engineering solution. And people who buy Hummers usually fit in those two categories.
You want me to really ruffle some feathers around here: that torque makes electric engines better for dirtbikes than a 4-stroke gasoline engine. Starting reps: 53714.FA Crew
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10-25-2020, 06:36 AM #25
The advantages I listed are only “highly debatable” by those dogmatic few who refuse to be open minded to an obviously superior option with advantages in major engineering / cost / application / sustainability metrics.
Usable power? Lol, like torque? Um yeah, EV crushes IC. Even if you could fix the transmissions with your CVT example (which I agree with), you are still hamstrung by the basic fundamental IC design of building RPM and getting them delivered to the crank.
Come on man, for being as smart as you try to portray on here, you should know this.
And lol at bringing up top fuel / funny car in a discussion on consumer vehicles. If you are having to use those examples as points in a debate then you have lost long ago.
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10-28-2020, 05:26 PM #26
with a infinite ratio cvt "building RPM and getting them delivered to the crank" is no longer an issue. motor can be at any rpm at any time.
as you said
"Come on man, for being as smart as you try to portray on here, you should know this."
you made general statements that ev's have a power advantage. I brought up funny cars to make a point, the absolute limit of a gas engine is higher than the absolute limit of the electric motor, which makes your general statement fasle. Any manufacturer can make any hp engine they want to, its not an intrinsic advantage of an EV to have more power, their advantage is low end torque and more precise control of power delivery. but to say they are more powerful is just plain false.
it wasn't meant as an insult, you do appear to be ignorant on this subject. nothing wrong with that but i'm not going to argue with you. but it is funny how someone so appalled at being "insulted" is so quick to throw actual insults LMAOLast edited by gluon; 10-28-2020 at 05:43 PM.
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10-29-2020, 12:38 PM #27
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10-29-2020, 01:27 PM #28
Lol. Imagine getting this fukking hyped about using fossil fuels while having a quote in your sig from a space ship captain. It's cool that you imagine humanity will be forced to burn fossil fuels forever and won't ever make big jumps forward in how we power our lives, but I think it would be interesting to see what happens if and when there is a breakthrough in how we can store energy that allows a greater shift.
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11-02-2020, 05:31 PM #29
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11-03-2020, 01:31 AM #30
Supposedly it can supercharge 100miles of range in like 15mins. Which is insane.
We will see how accurate all these claims are once it hits market though, and how well the features actually work.
The Tesla Roadster that arrives next year is using an entirely new battery tech compared to current Tesla's. The range is literally double.
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